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murd0c 05-06-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6411641)
Bettman was asked by Ron Mclean earlier this year about why Winnipeg doesn't get a team because they have the arena and they have the owners with the cash to bring a team in. He basically said the NHL other plans to expand to "other" cities before they can think about giving Winnipeg a team. Other cities like Kansas and Vegas? Please.

Winnipeg doesn't really have a stadium thos thats the thing. It only fits 15k people. On top of that he doesn't have any box's where the team makes alot of their corprate money from.

Soundy 05-06-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 6411637)
Bettman has never supported the Canadian markets because he knows he'll get business their no matter what. What he really wants that will make him blow his wad is to make hockey grow in America.

This guy probably just hates Canada. Fuck him.

No, he just loves himself.

Bettman admitting that hockey is failing in those markets would mean admitting that he was wrong about jamming hockey down the throats of non-hockey markets in the first place. Ultimately, it comes down to Bettman's pride and his refusal to admit that he fucked up.

Soundy 05-06-2009 09:20 AM

Posted to another board:
http://www.lionbackers.com/bc_lions/...ile.php?id=170

Grandmaster TSE 05-06-2009 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6411641)
Bettman was asked by Ron Mclean earlier this year about why Winnipeg doesn't get a team because they have the arena and they have the owners with the cash to bring a team in. He basically said the NHL other plans to expand to "other" cities before they can think about giving Winnipeg a team. Other cities like Kansas and Vegas? Please.

move the coyotes back to winnipeg and bring back the jets!!!!

Tim Budong 05-06-2009 10:28 AM

there is an interesting article on TSN about this fiasco

http://tsn.ca/columnists/bob_mckenzie/?id=277696

DanHibiki 05-06-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 6411788)
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Flashbacks of Minnesota Wild in 2003 when we're up 3-1.

That was a wild year (no pun intended). 3-1 comebacks are so rare in history and yet it happened twice to us in 1 year and on both the winning and losing ends.


I blame Bertuzzi's big mouth for that series, "there won't be a game 6."

Gumby 05-06-2009 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by orange7 (Post 6411664)
i'd rather play redwings than ducks

Yeah I agree!

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Originally Posted by jonogunn8 (Post 6412142)
That was a wild year (no pun intended). 3-1 comebacks are so rare in history and yet it happened twice to us in 1 year and on both the winning and losing ends.

Washington came back against NY Rangers after being down 3-1 this year...

Ch28 05-06-2009 02:04 PM

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420675

Salo took 10 minutes to speak with the media following Vancouver's afternoon skate on Wednesday to discuss the "lower-body" injury that sidelined him for Game 3. Well, at least that's what we thought.

One reporter asked Salo. "So what exactly was your injury? Was it ankle, knee, groin …"

"Yeah, that's close," Salo replied. "Or maybe it's just a burning sensation when I pee. Who knows?"

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

Tim Budong 05-06-2009 02:10 PM

so on the way back home from work, 1040 sas that jerry buckhiemer has suggested that he is interested buying the desert dogs and move them to vegas..
dont know where their source is coming from but if he makes an offer, Basillie stands no chance

Gumby 05-06-2009 02:33 PM

Salo's slapshots are so hard, he manages to pull his groin in doing so! At least he scored on the play. :p

Soundy 05-06-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6412312)
so on the way back home from work, 1040 sas that jerry buckhiemer has suggested that he is interested buying the desert dogs and move them to vegas..
dont know where their source is coming from but if he makes an offer, Basillie stands no chance

That depends. Since the team has declared bankruptcy, any sale has to be approved by the courts, and that usually means going to the highest bidder. Per MacKenzie's column linked above, a winning offer would have beat Balsillie's offer by $5M, which means Bruckheimer would have to bid at least $217.5M (assuming, of course, conditions of moving the team don't play into it).

One thing is for sure, it looks to be a real mess...

Harvey Specter 05-06-2009 02:47 PM

I can't see a NHL team working in Vegas.

Gumby 05-06-2009 02:54 PM

NHL ice hockey team in the middle of a desert? :lol

Tim Budong 05-06-2009 03:01 PM

I cant see a team working in vegas
but all the legal issues with the situation will mean that IF...buchkeimer's wish of owning a team, which he himself, like Basillie have the financial firepower to run the team in those cities. The fact that Basillie's bid will only stand if he could move the team to southern ontario is what is causing the big mess. Bettman says the board of owners will not approve of Basillie, but Bettman's ego to have hockey work in southern US has clearly failed.

The only market that actually is working would be Dallas. Reason? not becuz the team has won a cup, but the team promotes organized hockey within the city, it creates a GENERATION of fans, and not your overnight fan who only supports the team in their first few years due to HYPE.

Southern Ontario is like..LA...there is enough support and MONEY in terms of media rights and sponserships. why? LA has TWO NBA teams playing in the Staples center. Toronto will work with two teams.

Again, this is Bettman's head up his ass, but do not forget, the last two attempts by Basillie to buy Nashville and Pittsburgh fell through, because he didnt apply for purchase properly and sorta just, threw a buncha money on table and went lets make a deal.

Harvey Specter 05-06-2009 03:14 PM

Ovechkin scored.

MarkyMark 05-06-2009 03:15 PM

What a gift that was

Tapioca 05-06-2009 03:15 PM

Bettman may fight this tooth and nail, but Balsillie is not an idiot either. I'm sure he has the money, the legal team, and advisors to wrestle an NHL franchise... if not from Phoenix, then from somewhere else. Bettman works for the owners, not the other way around, and if the owners have any sense, then they will approve the sale and Balsillie will be able to do what he wants.

Chairman Kaga 05-06-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6412312)
so on the way back home from work, 1040 sas that jerry buckhiemer has suggested that he is interested buying the desert dogs and move them to vegas..
dont know where their source is coming from but if he makes an offer, Basillie stands no chance

Bruckheimer has been wanting to get a team into Vegas for years. This isn't really anything new.

Chairman Kaga 05-06-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6412402)
Bettman may fight this tooth and nail, but Balsillie is not an idiot either. I'm sure he has the money, the legal team, and advisors to wrestle an NHL franchise... if not from Phoenix, then from somewhere else. Bettman works for the owners, not the other way around, and if the owners have any sense, then they will approve the sale and Balsillie will be able to do what he wants.

Exactly!

Moving a team to a much more popular and higher revenue generating city ensures that teams pay LESS for revenue sharing.

Durrann1984 05-06-2009 03:20 PM

when a reporter suggested what type of lower body injury salo has

salo replied with "no, thats close tho or maybe its a burning sensation when you pee"

LOL

Chairman Kaga 05-06-2009 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6412299)
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=420675

Salo took 10 minutes to speak with the media following Vancouver's afternoon skate on Wednesday to discuss the "lower-body" injury that sidelined him for Game 3. Well, at least that's what we thought.

One reporter asked Salo. "So what exactly was your injury? Was it ankle, knee, groin …"

"Yeah, that's close," Salo replied. "Or maybe it's just a burning sensation when I pee. Who knows?"

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by Durrann1984 (Post 6412414)
when a reporter suggested what type of lower body injury salo has

salo replied with "no, thats close tho or maybe its a burning sensation when you pee"

LOL

re-re-re-reeeepost

:p

Durrann1984 05-06-2009 03:23 PM

damnit LOL

anyway good game caps and pens eh LOL

Tim Budong 05-06-2009 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapioca (Post 6412402)
Bettman may fight this tooth and nail, but Balsillie is not an idiot either. I'm sure he has the money, the legal team, and advisors to wrestle an NHL franchise... if not from Phoenix, then from somewhere else. Bettman works for the owners, not the other way around, and if the owners have any sense, then they will approve the sale and Balsillie will be able to do what he wants.

both men arnt dumb for sure, but the situation is that The Coyotes have filed for Chapter11 restructuring and im pretty sure the league and all of it's owners do not like this decision. So it goes to court. Do the NHL take control of the franchise first, or does the government sell to the highest bidder(atm, Basillie). So what happens when the government controls the rights to sell the team? Basillies conditional agreement to purchase is to relocate to Southern Ontario.

Say the sale is approved whether the league and board of governors like it or not, then what happens. Of course there will be owners that are not happy with the move. The leafs and the sabres franchise will be the first to make a comment due to the geography of the league. What about the geography of the entire league, does the team stay in the west or will there be restructuring there.

Not really racist! 05-06-2009 03:48 PM

Varlamov is fucking beast..

Soundy 05-06-2009 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6412381)
I cant see a team working in vegas
but all the legal issues with the situation will mean that IF...buchkeimer's wish of owning a team, which he himself, like Basillie have the financial firepower to run the team in those cities.

The question then is, if Bruckheimer gets the team and moves it to Vegas, how much money will he have to lose before it's on the block again?

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The fact that Basillie's bid will only stand if he could move the team to southern ontario is what is causing the big mess. Bettman says the board of owners will not approve of Basillie, but Bettman's ego to have hockey work in southern US has clearly failed.
You'd think the owners would be all over the move, especially those in the have-not markets - right now, Phoenix is eating into their escrow funds. A failing team moving to a profitable market means more money for everyone - more to go into the escrow, and one less player looking for a piece of that pie. As it stands now, the 6 Canadian teams account for 1/5 of the roster, but over 1/3 of the total income.

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The only market that actually is working would be Dallas. Reason? not becuz the team has won a cup, but the team promotes organized hockey within the city, it creates a GENERATION of fans, and not your overnight fan who only supports the team in their first few years due to HYPE.
Bingo - they've done an amazing job CREATING a HOCKEY MARKET in Dallas... but it's taken a long time and a lot of work to get to the payoff.

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Southern Ontario is like..LA...there is enough support and MONEY in terms of media rights and sponserships. why? LA has TWO NBA teams playing in the Staples center. Toronto will work with two teams.
LA (or the general area) also has two NHL teams, two MLB teams, and at times has had two NFL teams. LOTS of money to go around, there - California alone has the same population as all of Canada.

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Again, this is Bettman's head up his ass, but do not forget, the last two attempts by Basillie to buy Nashville and Pittsburgh fell through, because he didnt apply for purchase properly and sorta just, threw a buncha money on table and went lets make a deal.
For all we know, he may have made a half-dozen "proper" attempts and has only come up with the latest big-news attempts out of desperation or frustration. Kind of a, "Fuck you, Gary... you don't wanna do this, I'll make a big public splash and toss a shitload of money around so you REALLY look like a douchebag with the owners!"

One thing's for sure, it's pretty clear this latest offer was made with some behind-the-scenes finagling with Coyotes ownership - going chapter 11 takes a LOT of the decision-making out of the league's hands, AND does an end-run around the 8,000-year lease on the arena, as well as probably side-stepping a few other roadblocks. The timing of the declaration and Balsillie's offer is too cute to be coincidence.


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