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411ken 10-14-2009 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 6634504)
Kessel will be a total bust in Toronto!! He doesn't have all-star and who knows why not Canadian Olympic team centre Marc Savard feeding him sweet passes in Toronto... he'll be just like Blake, another high price signing that only produced in 1 situation on his old team.

And the price was HIGH not even for his contract (which was stupid money too) but for the fact they gave up all their future first round draft picks! SO stupid. They're supposed to be rebuilding and they gave up all the tools that Pittsburgh used to win a cup (first round draft picks) to get a guy who scored 36 goals ONCE and is injured... hahaha Burke FML!!!

Think about it this way - Burrows got only 8 goals less than Kessel last year and he only started playing with the Sedins in the last third of the season... would you trade 3 years of your team's future away and $4mill for Burrows without the Sedins and expect him to change your 0-6 team?!?!

BTW I'd like to congratulate Brian Burke for putting together a team that's had the worst start in the Leafs 120+year history. Quite an achievement.
That's fair but let's wait till he plays for the team first before doing so.. plus he's 21 freaking years old... and you are comparing him to Burrows? LOL. .who in the right set of mind would do that first of all?

Burrows lols...

411ken 10-14-2009 08:26 AM
BTW, the canucks just called up Michael Grabner!!

cdizzle_996 10-14-2009 08:27 AM
Its too bad Hordi can't stand up like that in fights anymore.

CRS 10-14-2009 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6634540)
That's fair but let's wait till he plays for the team first before doing so.. plus he's 21 freaking years old... and you are comparing him to Burrows? LOL. .who in the right set of mind would do that first of all?

Burrows lols...
Have you seen the goals Kessel had last season? Most if not all of them were because Savard fed him like a mofo. There is NO players in the T.O. lineup that is even REMOTELY close to the kind of play maker Savard is.

With the media and everything in T.O. if Kessel doesn't come out an instant stud, the media and everyone in T.O. will bash him and ruin his confidence and his game. Hell, they may even come up with chants about how much he sucks/chokes when he goes on the ice or gets the puck.

Kessel is going to be another Blake for T.O., they do not have what is necessary for Kessel to be great. He may be decent but he will not even be a shadow of his former self.

CRS 10-14-2009 08:34 AM
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Canucks recall Michael Grabner
Wednesday, 14.10.2009 / 12:00 PM / News Vancouver Canucks

GrabnerVancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks President & General Manager Mike Gillis announced today that right winger, Michael Grabner has been recalled from the Manitoba Moose of the AHL.
Grabner, 22, has played five games with Manitoba this season recording a team high four goals and two assists (4-2-6). In 66 games with the Moose in 2008.09, Grabner, recorded 48 points (30-18-48) and 20 penalty minutes.

The 6’1”, 180 lbs. Villach, Austria, native was selected by Vancouver 14th overall in the 2006 NHL Entry Draft.
http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm...id=DL|VAN|home

Hondaracer 10-14-2009 09:07 AM
Last-last chance for grabner? :/

CRS 10-14-2009 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6634605)
Last-last chance for grabner? :/
No... Well... Think about it. Who or what can we trade Grabner for? There isn't really anything we can do other than hope. I think he has another season to get his stuff together.

411ken 10-14-2009 09:10 AM
I seriously don't know why you guys are making a comparison of Kessel to Blake.... I believe Blake has been steady (55-65pts a season) through out his career.. It's not like he had 100pts with the Isles before then went down to 50-60 in Toronto...Kessel will help the Laffs scoring wise.. he ain't going to change the team by himself.. they need a Goalie.....he can score a hat trick everytime but if the goalie lets in 4 goals a game or wateer then they will be 0-82.... NOT that there's anything wrong with that lol./

Imagine the Sedins with Kessel.....200pts!

Hondaracer 10-14-2009 09:13 AM
I'd prefer burrows holmes

CRS 10-14-2009 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6634608)
I seriously don't know why you guys are making a comparison of Kessel to Blake.... I believe Blake has been steady (55-65pts a season) through out his career.. It's not like he had 100pts with the Isles before then went down to 50-60 in Toronto...Kessel will help the Laffs scoring wise.. he ain't going to change the team by himself.. they need a Goalie.....he can score a hat trick everytime but if the goalie lets in 4 goals a game or wateer then they will be 0-82.... NOT that there's anything wrong with that lol./

Imagine the Sedins with Kessel.....200pts!
I think you're starting to get confused when you're comparing both Kessel and the team. We are strictly looking at Kessel and how he will not perform well because of the team where you're arguing the team won't do well even with kessel performing well.

411ken 10-14-2009 09:38 AM
I just don't get what you guys are saying when you mention that he will jsut be another Jason Blake lol.. Blake avg'd about 60 pts and still doing the same with the Laffs.. is that a failure?

What about Kessel.. Let's sayyyy he scores 60 pts etc.. is that considered a fail? I know that he might not get 100 pts with Grabovski centreing but there's still trades and the season is young....

oh well.. enough bout the leafs.. we've talked about that team for a page now

InvisibleSoul 10-14-2009 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6634608)
I seriously don't know why you guys are making a comparison of Kessel to Blake.... I believe Blake has been steady (55-65pts a season) through out his career.. It's not like he had 100pts with the Isles before then went down to 50-60 in Toronto...
Not quite...

2002–03 New York Islanders NHL 81 25 30 55
2003–04 New York Islanders NHL 75 22 25 47
2004–05 HC Lugano NLA 7 2 2 4 4 – – – – –
2005–06 New York Islanders NHL 76 28 29 57
2006–07 New York Islanders NHL 82 40 29 69
2007–08 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 82 15 37 52
2008–09 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 78 25 38 63

The first time he got over 60 points in a season was his last year with the Islanders, but the number that stands out most is that he somehow got 40 goals that year, which is by far the most he's ever had, considering he's never even had another 30 goal season.

He hasn't done that poorly in Toronto... just not to the level of his last year with the Islanders.

Expresso 10-14-2009 10:13 AM
I'm sure Kessel's first year in TO will not be fantastic. TO should be happy if he nets 20+ goals. Defintiely have to wait until a bonafide center arrives in TO whether that be through a trade or Kadri maybe? Who knows.

If I was going to pick I take Burrows right now, but down the road I'm not sure. But I think we can all agree the trade was not worth it. Now Bostons got two high 1st round picks, cause we all know the Leafs are not going to make the playoffs.

bossxx 10-14-2009 11:02 AM
Can we change the subject lol

haha if the season ended yesterday this would be so funny

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b3.../standings.jpg

Durrann1984 10-14-2009 03:14 PM
Grabner called up and canucks putting him on 1st line
thats crazy

heard hes owning in the moose

Tim Budong 10-14-2009 03:40 PM
i just dont agree on throwing picks away for phil kessel
yes SPECULATION is that 2010 draft is gonna suck, but theres always the diamond in the rough with these things
its lookin even better for boston as the leafs will tank soo hard, that the 1st round pick could easily become 1st overall

im a pretty big phil kessel fan
yes, blake is no savard, but blake and garbovski will improve once kessel steps back into action, and that to the leafs is their single biggest win this year. i believe blake and garbovski is gonna stick around as their contracts go till 2011? correct me if im wrong

murd0c 10-14-2009 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Durrann1984 (Post 6635093)
Grabner called up and canucks putting him on 1st line
thats crazy

heard hes owning in the moose
so far 4 goals in 5 games, I heard the Gillis interview and he said that since Grabner is the the Canucks top prospect he thinks he should play on the top line. I think thats a smart idea hopefully that will get him going.

mako 10-14-2009 04:12 PM
Sedin, Burrows and Grabner?
or
Sedin, Bernier and Grabner?

murd0c 10-14-2009 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nismo_s13 (Post 6635182)
Sedin, Burrows and Grabner?
or
Sedin, Bernier and Grabner?
Gillis said Sedin, Burrows and Grabner

mako 10-14-2009 04:18 PM
that doesnt look too bad on paper

bernier can slot back in with wellwood and glass

SumAznGuy 10-14-2009 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by nismo_s13 (Post 6635193)
that doesnt look too bad on paper

bernier can slot back in with wellwood and glass
Team 1040 said the lines were going to be:

Grabner, Sedin, Burrows
Kesler, Samulsson, Raymond
Bernier, Wellwood, Johnson
Rypien, Hordichuck, Glass

And on D:

Mitchel, Bieska
Ernhoff, SOB
Rome, Edler

Hondaracer 10-14-2009 04:28 PM
grabner will fail on the top line

they play him on the top line because of the type of player he is, he's pretty much pure offensive, so he has no spot other than the top line really on the team, the role he would play on other lines would not be effective whatsoever, so they are kinda forced to play him on the first

i dunno.. especially against Calgary i have some severe doubts

murd0c 10-14-2009 04:55 PM
today for Sports Action I decided to take Barry Macdonalds and Scotty Rentols pics I took The Rangers, Pens and the Stars so far it's looking good. Only put down $5 and I win a massive $25.50

jigga250 10-14-2009 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 6635256)
today for Sports Action I decided to take Barry Macdonalds and Scotty Rentols pics I took The Rangers, Pens and the Stars so far it's looking good. Only put down $5 and I win a massive $25.50

"massive $25" lol

too bad you only have 6 mins left for pittsburgh to score or you get a Tie

murd0c 10-14-2009 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jigga250 (Post 6635284)
"massive $25" lol

too bad you only have 6 mins left for pittsburgh to score or you get a Tie
I still get a win if it's won in OT. The tie only counts if it goes to a shoot out.


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