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Yeah that's why I said US Airline Hubs. People think we are a big airport because we're the #3 city in Canada but in reality we're small potatoes. Denver is massive United hub airport and not really a destination in itself. Whereas Vancouver is the opposite. We actually have "hubs" but only two. Toronto for AC and Calgary for WS. Still nothing compared to the Delta/American/United fortress hubs they have in the US.

Yup, I'm screwed LOL

You said the exact same thing last year too! LOL

Do you think it's safe that they won't pick up garbage and compost tomorrow?

Mine was picked up this morning in Aldergrove, where most roads weren't plowed at all.

Saw garbage trucks out today, so I imagine they will pickup

What does it matter if your plane gets to the gate and then you can't leave the airport cause the roads are fucked :lol

Imma just gonna bite my tongue amid all this stupidity.

Currently stuck in whitehorse, was supposed to have a AC flight out at 6pm. I am rebooked (of my own accord nothing for help from AC) on an air north flight tomorrow morning.

Here's the thing, and this isn't a knock on YVR, AC, air north or anyone, in fact everyone I spoke to today was super nice, and very helpful.

HOWEVER

From what I can tell AC basically as soon as shit hit the fan at YVR, threw their hands in the air, cancelled every flight and gave up. They actually told me this afternoon, that they have pre-emptively cancelled all of tomorrows flights as well for the region.

Whereas air north is still trying. They have three flights that have been delayed out of whitehorse, they've put additional crews on, they pulled an additional 767 out of their hanger to create capacity when they are able to land at YVR again, and they are keeping everything ready to role from whitehorse. When you talk to the people at the counter, they are upbeat, and maintain the same message: "as soon as YVR clears us to land, we will be wheels up and on our way there".

The other one that irked me about AC, I stop in at the airport at 1pm, 5 hours before my flight, and ask the chick whats going on, and she says "your flight is still on time, there wont be any delays". Keep in mind that I know the tail number of the aircraft, at that point the plane was still physically in denver, It had to leave denver, land in vancouver, reboard and come to whitehorse. It was plainly obvious none of that was happening. But AC refuses to mark the flight as delayed or cancelled until 2 hours before it is scheduled to board. This policy is so stupid, it's obvious the fucking thing isn't showing up, and your so dumb and short sighted, you have no other planes in whitehorse. So why even bullshit me and say it is on time, just cancel the fucker. This is exactly the type of shit that makes people think airlines are partially retarded, anyone with a logical brain can see they have themselves backed into a corner that has no way out, and yet they continue on as if a new plane is going to magically appear in whitehorse ready to roll with a crew.

EDIT: also AC's phone system has been down, like not busy you can't get through, actually down. When you dial it actually just says it is too busy, and to go online. So you can't talk to Air Canada. Their desk agents have been told to not even look up people's flights, that everything needs to go through reservations and rebookings, which is the number that is so full it isn't accepting new callers.

Again comparing to air north, you walk up to the counter, they will book you a ticket, modify your ticket, give you information, whatever. No phone, no bullshit.

I mean I get it, AC is 90X the size of air north, but the bureaucracy and size doesn't help me get home in time for christmas.

AC is known to have bad/lack of common sense service, and things have become worse since covid. They aren't United level of retarded but they are pretty high up there and most people have told me to avoid.

I've never had a poor exp with them though I haven't flown with them since 2015, but the difference is painfully obvious when you compare it KLM, Lufthansa, Cathay, Singapore, etc.

I used to refuse to fly AC until like 2016 when westjet got so bad. I haven’t had a bad time since, but it’s a lot of luck of the draw I think. That said EVERY time I’ve flown WJ in the last 5 years I’ve had delays, terrible service and bad pricing.

I like AC. They just don’t deal with delays and service interruptions very well. Otherwise their normal service is quite good.

I fly alot, and to a lot of ridiculous places. AC and WJ are the same, as badhobz says, they are fine until it isn't, at which point you are on your own.

I take every precaution to limit myself to their ignorance, I dont fly with checked luggage majority of the time, I leave ample room for connections, I simplify my travel arrangements, and when stuff goes sideways I dont wait to fuck around with refunds and their bullshit, I'm booking immediately on whatever is available. I'm probably out the $500 for my flight they cancelled this afternoon, because chasing them for it is probably more trouble then it is worth. I'll let the corporate traveller people deal with that, but they will probably also give up on the endeavor.

I don't like WestJet. The in-service teams are too happy. That pisses me off.

I got lucky and my flight was able to land with only a 30 min delay (but it took off 30 mins late). Few hours later, shit show at YVR happened. Was with WestJet.

WJ is trash. I dislike their 737-800’s the most as they are so uncomfortable compared to the A220 and Max’s AC uses

However what pissed me off the most about WJ was when I flew to Toronto and paid for their stupid “business class” upgrade. Which at the time was just the middle seat blocked off. During the flight they gave some woman who I presume was the grandma of the family a free upgrade to the business class across the aisle from me. The entire time her grandkids or kids whatever they were were running up and down, taking the free food and drinks provided up front and running back. Eventually not once but twice the dumb ass kids split their drinks and the woman’s wine on me..

I emailed WJ saying why the fuck am I paying for this upgrade only to have someone given it for free and experience this Bs?

Their reply was “well much like on other forms of public transport such as a bus we cannot control what others do”

Ffs..

Btw, if you’ve got little brats do everyone else a favour and don’t bring them to the lounge or up into business class plz thx. Frankly you shouldn’t be allowed to book a kid a business class seat

lol noob

Ftfy.

I flew WJ premium economy with their kiddy tray table in the middle seat few times and it was fine.

On a short flight to LA there was immediate food service with actual plates and cutlery, along with fairly regular drink service.

Better than the Intercontinental flight on AC I most recently took on Premium Economy where they had ONE round of drink service the meal. I had to go up to the prep gangways and ask for booze like the alcoholic that I am.

Compared some Asia or Euro airlines who do apertif, dinner drinks, mid-dinner refill, digestif, and nightcap. But that was pre covid so who knows now.

Looks like a swastika

Are planes flying tomorrow or cancelled? Cousin has a flight in 5 hours, apparently nothing is flying out atm.

Most likely cancelled. WestJet told everyone at the airport to go home, lol.

All incoming flights with a wingspan over 118 feet are also not permitted to land for two days starting tomorrow morning - meaning most foreign aircraft. Canadian and USA flights, and emergency landings are exempt from this rule.

but shouldn't it? we are the main entry for pacific routes

and climate won't be getting any better and this sure wont be the last time yvr and airlines screw things up so spectacularly

i still dont get how yvr gets rated so highly on airport lists, regardless of size and traffic.. blows my mind

ive noticed this with practically every north american carrier ive been on besides maybe southwest

like they're trying to keep the disappointment at bay until the last very minute only for it to blow out even harder

*flight cancels last second* wE aRe ShOrT-StaFfED! well shit, you figured that out 15 minutes before boarding?? that shift management!

it was already stewing before pandemic then became painfully obvious since

must be some incredibly backwards ass bureaucracy as the root cause of the problem

the widespread dysfunction just makes me not want to take vacations anymore and that really blows as a first world problem because i cant wait to resume traveling

As I expected, the shit show continues at YVR.

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2022/1...onal-arrivals/


Vancouver International Airport is limiting international arrivals until Friday morning as it continues to deal with major backlogs and delays caused by Tuesday’s snowstorm.

YVR says the winter storm that hit caused widespread flight delays and cancellations, and as a result, a “significant number” of planes remain at the airport, leading to a congested airfield.

“Our focus is to depart aircraft from the airport and get crews and passengers safely on their way. Therefore, we will be temporarily limiting arriving international flights for approximately 48 hours, effective Wednesday, December 21 at 7:00 a.m. through Friday, December 23 at 5:00 a.m.,” the airport said.

The airport believes about 30 international flights will be affected, including all flights from All Nippon Airways, Air China, Air France, Air India, Air New Zealand, British Airways, Cathay Pacific, China Airlines, Eurowings, Eva Air, Hainan, Japan Airlines, Korean Air, Philippine Airlines, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, Turkish Airlines.


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supposed to fly out on AC tonight at 8:20 to portland on my way to houston then finally new orleans

get me outta here!!!

Ooof… big test of your cars / tires today. The snow all
Turned into ice now. Rock friggin hard.

Woke up to the sound of this idiot with a civic gunning it at full rpm and not going anywhere.

Clearly that Civic did not the Cross Climates haha

its just richmond, drove the big detour around knight street bridge again and roads were all good until I hit bridgeport

everyone spinning tires