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Old 02-16-2012, 03:51 PM   #2801
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It's not fucked,that's how the laws is once the riot act has been read to rioters.

If you read the riot act,it clearly states,any crimes committed after the riot act has been read,people charged could face life in prison,so in my point of view,white trash boy got off easy.
Kind of think he means 2.5 years for murder with a deadly weapon is a RIDICULOUSLY lax sentence.. comparing it to a rioter getting 1.5 years..
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And of course a government, ANY government is going to have strict laws to protect itself, ie. civil disobedience.
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The problem isn't his sentence is to heavy it's that the other sentences we're comparing it to are to light.
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Ryan Dickinson should be given MORE..

firstly for the riot.. secondly, he is on PROBATION for past offense..
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He will be crying after serving a month in the joint,jail is not for the weak minded,he won't last a year without losing his mind,or at least be the same mentally again.

If I was in jail,I would host a swirly and a stomp party to welcome him in.
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So glad this dickhead got jail time. I hope the others are shitting their pants.

I get what others are saying. It doesn't make sense, but rioting is a different kettle of fish. I want to see the civil lawsuits get under way. Spokesperson from London Drugs said they would definitely go after the rioters for damages.
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He will be crying after serving a month in the joint,jail is not for the weak minded,he won't last a year without losing his mind,or at least be the same mentally again.

If I was in jail,I would host a swirly and a stomp party to welcome him in.
The guy was already on probation and wherever you go whether it be a detention center or pre-trial it will probably be fairly standard for some skid like this

Although the punishment may seem lengthy if you want to get very serious you've got to hit people financially, some people would be better off taking 4 years rather than trying to pay off 30 grand
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The guy was already on probation and wherever you go whether it be a detention center or pre-trial it will probably be fairly standard for some skid like this

Although the punishment may seem lengthy if you want to get very serious you've got to hit people financially, some people would be better off taking 4 years rather than trying to pay off 30 grand
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For all we know,this fucking skid could have only served a few days in jail,got a promise to appear and was released on probation.

I think the province should make everyone of these motherfuckers that are found guilty of rioting,each of them pay a equal portion it costs for all this shit they caused,which includes clean up,damages and court fees.
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rofl a local from my old high school (hj cambie in richmond) was found for participating the riot. hope he gets whats serving him!! kids like 17 rofl
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rofl a local from my old high school (hj cambie in richmond) was found for participating the riot. hope he gets whats serving him!! kids like 17 rofl
He'll get a harsh sentence of nothing, and a name publication ban for being a minor. That's what's coming to him.
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So a guy I know who kills his best friend drunk driving gets 2.5 years for essentially man slaughter and this guy gets 1.5 years...

That's fucked.
If I killed my best friend drunk driving, any time in jail would mean nothing to me. If I just killed my best friend, how is that not punishment enough? You will never see him again, his parents will never look at you again, his gf or whatever will never speak to you again, I am sure even my own parents would not speak to me for years.

Any regular citizen would be haunted for life regarding that 1 bad decision. This guy will forget about the riot and subsequent jail time in less than 5 years.
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The 17 months was LIGHT if you consider that this guy was breaching his bail conditions for a previous assault charge by being downtown at the time.
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He'll get a harsh sentence of nothing, and a name publication ban for being a minor. That's what's coming to him.
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That slap on the wrist ain't nothing and is gonna sting mister...
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The guy was already on probation and wherever you go whether it be a detention center or pre-trial it will probably be fairly standard for some skid like this

Although the punishment may seem lengthy if you want to get very serious you've got to hit people financially, some people would be better off taking 4 years rather than trying to pay off 30 grand
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Sometimes civil action can only do so much. I just learned the hard way that just because you win a civil suit doesn't mean you're finally gonna get paid. This topic is a little bit more complex so I'll leave it at that as to not derail this thread.

There's an old quote in insurance and law which I can't recall exactly but it's something like.... "you can't make a rock bleed" or "you can't get blood from a rock" or something; which really all they're trying to say is... it's not worth suing someone who has no means to pay. Most likely, lowlifes don't.
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well.. if you think about it.. most of the young kids will get HIT the hardest is when they look for jobs..

ANY good paying jobs require your criminal history.. unless they wait 5years after serving, then they can get it erased.. and why, coz they are stupid and participated in a RIOT... and since the economy is not getting any better soon.. they will be stuck flipping burgers.. im sure McDicks dont require a criminal record check.. haha

they ruined their lives... i dont pity them...
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Sometimes civil action can only do so much. I just learned the hard way that just because you win a civil suit doesn't mean you're finally gonna get paid. This topic is a little bit more complex so I'll leave it at that as to not derail this thread.

There's an old quote in insurance and law which I can't recall exactly but it's something like.... "you can't make a rock bleed" or "you can't get blood from a rock" or something; which really all they're trying to say is... it's not worth suing someone who has no means to pay. Most likely, lowlifes don't.
You can't get blood from a stone?

It's true. We find the same thing with going after tenants. Do I want to go after a shitbag and spend a bunch of time building my case, to get a victory and be told, you can pursue through civil court, which means I spend more time building another case and be told, you win to then have to hire people to track them down and in the end spend more than you could actually recover to attempt to fuck up their lives in retribution.

Or accept that the rule is, the "kind of shitty" people are there for the taking, but if you are completely shitty...you win!
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The 17 months was LIGHT if you consider that this guy was breaching his bail conditions for a previous assault charge by being downtown at the time.
Oh so this kid likes to assualt people huh?

I really hope he tries to assualt someone in jail while doing his time,not only will he get his ass beat so bad,he might even be the new jailhouse bitch who will be sucking dicks during the time of his stay or be pimped out to all the other inmates for a pack of cigarettes.
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Sometimes civil action can only do so much. I just learned the hard way that just because you win a civil suit doesn't mean you're finally gonna get paid. This topic is a little bit more complex so I'll leave it at that as to not derail this thread.

There's an old quote in insurance and law which I can't recall exactly but it's something like.... "you can't make a rock bleed" or "you can't get blood from a rock" or something; which really all they're trying to say is... it's not worth suing someone who has no means to pay. Most likely, lowlifes don't.
yea, but the government has the ability to take away rights such as driving liscence, passport, etc. as opposed to a civil suit

but obviously cases like these would be too much "work" to fight it to the fullest for them
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Ready to get flamed here, but oh well.

I know ryan, hes a good friend of mine. And ill be the first to say he is a FUCKING IDIOT for doing what he did. But everyone making these comments saying theyd like to shit kick him for this is no better. He has done stupid shit in th past, his probation for his "assult charge" isnt cause he went and randomly beat the shit out of someone. He was on a party bus and after tye bus people there started a fight with another group of people. He was not part of it until he saw his friend getting the shit kicked out of him, he went to break it up and the guy hit him and threw him to the ground. Wheb he got up he hit the guy once. One of the people of the other group suffered bad injuries that is why EVERYONE got charged. He got time served and 6 month probation because he didnt play a major part.

He breached because one of his conditions was no alcohol.

Its the fucking stanley cup, who isnt going to drink? (Besides recovering addicts and 11 year olds)

My point is hes the first to get charged, and thats because he turned himself in. He was trying to turn his life around, had a good job etc. I am NOT defending his actions, it was stupid what he did, and despicable. But he is genuinly a good guy getting singled out. He threw a news stand thru an unmarked cop car and one window. He didnt go around looting thousands of dollars of murchandise, shit kicking people, of starting giant infurnos.

The media is "making an example" out of him. And our justice system and media is equally fucked. There was a guy who 19 years old went to the sane jail as ryan for assulting a police officer during the riot. HE WAS RELEASED TWO WEEKS LATER. Just because hes all over the media does NOT mean he should be singled out. Hes a normal 20 year old guy. People get caught up in the heat of the moment, he felt remorse and turned himself in. Now hes the posterboy for the riots for probably the smallest crime commited there.

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^ the main reason why he got the charges he did because although he didnt loot anything, his actions incited others to do the same..

and i dont care how good of a guy you think he is, the guy is a skid for even having the mentality to commit those actions, every single person i associate myself with would never even be around people like your "friend"
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Just the fact that the group got off the party bus and started a fight with another group of people just shows what kind of person this kid is, and the people he hangs around with.
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^ the main reason why he got the charges he did because although he didnt loot anything, his actions incited others to do the same..

and i dont care how good of a guy you think he is, the guy is a skid for even having the mentality to commit those actions, every single person i associate myself with would never even be around people like your "friend"
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Ready to get flamed here, but oh well.

I know ryan, hes a good friend of mine. And ill be the first to say he is a FUCKING IDIOT for doing what he did. But everyone making these comments saying theyd like to shit kick him for this is no better. He has done stupid shit in th past, his probation for his "assult charge" isnt cause he went and randomly beat the shit out of someone. He was on a party bus and after tye bus people there started a fight with another group of people. He was not part of it until he saw his friend getting the shit kicked out of him, he went to break it up and the guy hit him and threw him to the ground. Wheb he got up he hit the guy once. One of the people of the other group suffered bad injuries that is why EVERYONE got charged. He got time served and 6 month probation because he didnt play a major part.

He breached because one of his conditions was no alcohol.

Its the fucking stanley cup, who isnt going to drink? (Besides recovering addicts and 11 year olds)

My point is hes the first to get charged, and thats because he turned himself in. He was trying to turn his life around, had a good job etc. I am NOT defending his actions, it was stupid what he did, and despicable. But he is genuinly a good guy getting singled out. He threw a news stand thru an unmarked cop car and one window. He didnt go around looting thousands of dollars of murchandise, shit kicking people, of starting giant infurnos.

The media is "making an example" out of him. And our justice system and media is equally fucked. There was a guy who 19 years old went to the sane jail as ryan for assulting a police officer during the riot. HE WAS RELEASED TWO WEEKS LATER. Just because hes all over the media does NOT mean he should be singled out. Hes a normal 20 year old guy. People get caught up in the heat of the moment, he felt remorse and turned himself in. Now hes the posterboy for the riots for probably the smallest crime commited there.

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People like him are the ones that always start shit, always so cocky and ready to prove themselves for no good reason.

And why would he drink if he's under probation? He wants to turn his life around? That's what they all say but his actions don't really reflect that.
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Maybe its time for you to get new friends?

People like him are the ones that always start shit, always so cocky and ready to prove themselves for no good reason.

And why would he drink if he's under probation? He wants to turn his life around? That's what they all say but his actions don't really reflect that.
I see what youre saying and I dont disagree. I just find it ridiculous the time hes serving for what he did. But i do agree,, jail time is appropriate. For everyone who participated. I just find it stupid where one guy who assaulted a cop during the riot got out in two weeks, while he gets 17 months for destruction of property. Its the stuff the media DOESNT tell us.
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there were others who drank at the riot.. they didn't do anything
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