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View Poll Results: Are you in favour of extinguishing the HST in BC?
Yes: Bring Back GST + PST @ 12% 186 42.18%
No: HST to decrease to 10% over 3 years (10% in 2014) 255 57.82%
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Old 08-27-2011, 11:07 AM   #276
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HST or GST/PST..... Doesn't change how the government mindlessly spends. If they knew how to manage money like 'most' responsible people we wouldn't be in this situation today.
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bottom line, for 90%+ of the businesses out there, HST is a good thing
(the only type of business that will be worst off are service based companies that face a lower demand & sales because of increased tax cost for the customer.)
Even for service based companies, demand and sales should not be noticeably adversely affected. If people need the service, they need the service HST or not. Company A has to charge the same HST as Company B providing the same service, so in the big picture things really shouldn't have been affected.

Companies providing a service that take a hit due to HST are those which are 'non-essential', I use that term loosely because what is essential to me may be non-essential to somebody else. But as previously mentioned, if the 5% increase is preventing you from eating out as much, then don't eat out as much. The CHOICE is with the spender.

In these tough times, I only wish people would have considered the overall economic environment and set aside any personal bias. What's done is done, and IMO democracy reared its ugly head showing that major decisions like this probably should not be left up to the general public. I hope those that voted to get rid of the HST will remember what they voted for a few years down the road.
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If the HST didn't get voted down somehow I can't see the anti-HST people dissing the opposition for being uneducated.
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In these tough times, I only wish people would have considered the overall economic environment and set aside any personal bias. What's done is done, and IMO democracy reared its ugly head showing that major decisions like this probably should not be left up to the general public. I hope those that voted to get rid of the HST will remember what they voted for a few years down the road.
We now have a $1.6B hole and other associated costs to revert for an estimate total of $3B to be paid by the 2.25M working people in BC. Its unlikely these hole will be closed with cuts, there's just not enough to cut. That's ~$1300 each if they decide to close the hole with taxes, yet its unlikely the lower half will bear this cost, double that and spread it out amongst anyone making more than $40K.

We now also have a revenue shortfall, which must be closed with either cuts or taxes.

We now have nothing left to negotiate with public unions, like the teachers who want a raise. If you have a job with the provincial government, don't expect any increases for awhile.
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Put it this way.

We have two former Premiers to thank for completely fucking up the past few years with this HST crap.

Thanks Gordie. Thanks Billy.
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Sin ce I voted to keep HST if there any extra tax because of this should it only tax the people who voted to get rib of the HST?
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Sin ce I voted to keep HST if there any extra tax because of this should it only tax the people who voted to get rib of the HST?
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I voted the day I got the package.. I was slightly confused by the abundance of envelopes though
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extra security measures of course...but nevertheless the steps were there...so unless people didn't ready the steps carefully, then i would see that one might get confused...
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Ironic how the news is full of people "concerned over 'potential cost cutting measures by the BC government' and reduced funding to services" this week.

I wonder how many of these fucking idiots voted to get rid of the HST?
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I've said it once, i'll say it agian.

It has never been about the tax. It has always been the way it was shoved down our throats. The best idea without the correct implementation is useless.
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Ironic how the news is full of people "concerned over 'potential cost cutting measures by the BC government' and reduced funding to services" this week.

I wonder how many of these fucking idiots voted to get rid of the HST?
so wait the tax wasn't revenue neutral?

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ps: Cuts were happening prior to this.
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I think it's too bad that they took away HST, helpped out business pretty good. now they gotta change all the tax system again is pretty annoying
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I called election BC to get my ballot when it didnt show up in my mailbox; And when it finally arrived but a few days before the deadline, I took some time during my day off to drop it off at the W12 location to ensure it counts. In total it took less than 1 combined hour of my time.

Voting is one of the main way to have your voice heard among the millions, lazy fucks like you who wouldn't even take the slightest effort to cast your ballot have no right to complain or bitch when shit doesn't go your way in the future.
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I called election BC to get my ballot when it didnt show up in my mailbox; And when it finally arrived but a few days before the deadline, I took some time during my day off to drop it off at the W12 location to ensure it counts. In total it took less than 1 combined hour of my time.

Voting is one of the main way to have your voice heard among the millions, lazy fucks like you who wouldn't even take the slightest effort to cast your ballot have no right to complain or bitch when shit doesn't go your way in the future.
I was on the fence about the hst, I understood the great economic benefits it had for the majority of people in our province. I also knew that since the hst came in last year, it was cutting cost into the lowest income family with kids, because of they didnt have the excemption pst/gst had. The way the hst was brought in was pretty dirty but i forgive the liberals. I didnt vote because I was okay with whatever the voting referendum would be. I niether Complained or bitched about it so go fuck yourself you right wing conservative monkey.
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Personally, I would like to see a law as is in place in Australia where voting is legally mandated, punishable by fines. They have something like a 97% response rate. According to the Australian law, you are allowed to ruin your ballot to show your distaste for the electorate, but you MUST VOTE.

Alternatively, I wish more people would vote with ruin their ballots so we could figure out how many disenfranchised yet interested people there are versus apathetic people who don't give even half a shit.
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