Honda claims that the L15B can't do more than 200hp without impacting reliability - I'm guessing because it was developed as a economy car motor that it was never designed to be boosted like the GR Corolla model - it was introduced in 2001 and started at 77hp in the 1.2L version and 89hp in the 1.5L version. It seems to have had quite a few issues over the years (head gasket, gas getting into the oil) unlike the K engine.

About halfway to it... FL5 is $55k+ and hard to get

This thing is $38k-ish and probably 8-10k in mods? Skip the ugly wheels haha

I haven't looked into the engine's longevity at all... lots of people at least right now claiming they have run uprated tunes like his one without issue.

We will see in 5 years how many of them are eating shit hahaha

To me, it sounds like the rev hang is a tuner issue.

The head gasket is cuz of head stud being too weak to handle detonation.
VTEC equipped accord running 87 is most susceptible.

Rods are very thin too.
L15 is not an overbuilt engine

If you're doing that you'll have no warranty and from the sounds of it less reliability so at that point why not get a slightly used FL5? Quite a bit more power with no messing around and better resale value should you need it.

No argument from me there, I'm not buying a Civic Si...

I was watching the reviews on the Civic hybrid and apparently that's the one to get? Faster than the si and like 45mpg?

Yeah, the Civic hybrid is a total stud. Easy argument as the best all around commodity car in the world right now.

I mean you could... i find it plenty fast. any faster and you can't put the power down (at least on these shitty OEM bridgestone s007 summer tires). The problem still lies in the transmission. With the 6 speed there is just no comparison to the DSG for launches, but if you get the DSG it kinda defeats the purpose of getting a old school hot hatch. :suspicious:

you know, im starting to come to a realization that Vancouver now with a much bigger population and traffic jams combined with the fact that you lose your car if you go 40 over the limit, it's funner to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow.

still not getting a miata

Either slow car fast, or a fast car that's fun slow.

Even an auto Scat Pack / Hellcat is plenty entertaining to drive here.

F80 that gotta spool? meh

I'd argue Camry / Prius Hybrid or the prime version just because they offer AWD

Can attest that the current gen Prius hybrid AWD is quite enjoyable to drive. But Dark's experience with the dead 12V seems rather disappointing.

The Civic hybrid should also be pretty enjoyable to drive. So that brings us to the question -- between the following 3, which one would you choose?

- Prius Prime -- starts at $42.5k
- Prius hybrid AWD - starts at $40.6k
- Civic hatch hybrid - starts at $37.4k

I need a non-Tesla EV 4-door fun-to-drive option that has a lower TCO (total cost of ownership) than the Prius / Civic.

since AstroTuffRZD made me hate all cars now, I'm still on the prowl for an Alphard Royal Lounge and/or Murano Crosscab that's reasonably priced.

Both would be epic for trolling. you guys can keep your sports cars.. They are dead to me now. Either Yachtscene.net or VehicleTrollscene.net

should get a mgb :awwyeah:

Revhang - stock. Even the FK8 has it. Tbh, revhang was evident in 8th gen civic si's as well. It's pretty common Honda thing. It's not as bad in the 11th gen civics, but clearly still evident. I'm not sure if this works in the 11th gen, but in the FK8 the revhang is gone if you turn off auto revmatch.

My friend bought a Civic Si after his FK8 got tboned. It was 42K or smt. Awful car stock lol. We used it as a track taxi for lols but it's so bad.

https://youtu.be/eDL_4To-vBg?si=O0D1mlyCL6ocB31s

https://youtu.be/95KYBrqDsy4?si=d1fMqApA2IxSbhj7

https://youtu.be/ag5-R_0HK48?si=U0Ew_KlFWPgrNKuS

As someone who bought a non-M e46 and have tried to make it as worthy on track as an E46 M3... it's not worth it. No matter what mods you throw at it, you might as well have gotten the M3 (or in this case the Type R) in the first place.

Here's a reliability thread for all tuned 10th gen civics, including the 1.5L.

Ofc this thread only has data of a limited sample size - those that contribute, but nevertheless are some data points.

Just sign me up for yacht scene - the challenger is already a cruise ship

They also say the civic is bigger than the Prius though, and the hatch is better. Unlike the stupid swoop glass they are doing with the prius

You sold a British car for another British car! :spamarama:

At this rate, this forum should just be renamed to HondaRacerScene.net or AstulzerAZDScene.net

You’re not invited !!! Don’t fucking review my leopard 42 catamaran and tell me the lagoon 42 is better because I know that already. But I just want a stupid leopard cat okay ? Okay ?!?! OKAY ?!?

There's magic in the B

Wow, that car is in great shape! :o

Great watch. Thanks for sharing! (I want one!) :okay:

I haven't driven it, but it sounds like that E-CVT is a huge let down if you enjoy driving. If you want an appliance, I'm sure it's fine.

Just booked my car for Brazil - I'm in a volkswagen GOL (no F).
Hope they give me a 1.6 so I can pass a truck or two on the highway