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Tim Budong 02-17-2014 02:36 PM


pastarocket 02-18-2014 11:52 AM

Did anyone hear about Doug MacLean saying on Team1040 that he heard about an imminent Canucks trade ?

Not really racist! 02-18-2014 11:59 AM

Burrows with a hand sprain in the final game against TO after the scuffle with Kessel. I guess that's what happens when you pull hair....should be healed up when the break ends (as per Elliott Pap)

Torts spotted in the hospital with a dislocated shoulder
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BgpKKY7CAAAnBxM.jpg

m3thods 02-18-2014 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8419106)
Did anyone hear about Doug MacLean saying on Team1040 that he heard about an imminent Canucks trade ?

Yes. But it's also Doug Maclean.

http://blogs.plos.org/obesitypanacea...SaltShaker.jpg

Jmac 02-18-2014 12:04 PM

MG has made moves every trade deadline. I don't see why this year would be any different, especially since we're currently in a position to select in the top 10 :okay:

m3thods 02-18-2014 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8419112)
MG has made moves every trade deadline. I don't see why this year would be any different, especially since we're currently in a position to select in the top 10 :okay:

Pasta forgot to mention that Douggie was saying that the particular moves he was hearing were of the "blindside" variety. Not the typical MG "picks for rental" trade at the deadline.

Not really racist! 02-18-2014 12:23 PM

DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

CRS 02-18-2014 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419117)
DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

What are we suppose to do with Franzen?

m3thods 02-18-2014 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 8419123)
What are we suppose to do with Franzen?

Rebuild him! :thumbs:

radioman 02-18-2014 12:46 PM

We have the technology.


Spoiler!

pastarocket 02-18-2014 01:02 PM

The mule is way past his prime and injury prone.

Mantha is a gifted offensive player, with size. If Detroit is willing to give up Mantha the trade looks good. Otherwise, no deal if only Franzen is available.

m3thods 02-18-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8419136)
The mule is way past his prime and injury prone.

Mantha is a gifted offensive player, with size. If Detroit is willing to give up Mantha the trade looks good. Otherwise, no deal if only Franzen is available.

I think it goes without saying, that any deal involving just Edler and the Mule as principals is not a deal MG would make.

Jmac 02-18-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419117)
DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

Why the hell would we do that trade?

Franzen is near retirement due to injuries.

So we're giving up a 40+ point all-star dman in his prime locked up long term and a 3rd line winger who is in his prime locked up long term for a shitty long-term contract, a promising junior player, and a 1st or a 2nd?

/never armchair again

Hondaracer 02-18-2014 01:27 PM

If we trade Kesler I'm done with the nucks, srs this time
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Gh0stRider 02-18-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419117)
DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

LOL

m3thods 02-18-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8419151)
If we trade Kesler I'm done with the nucks, srs this time
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Even if it gives you bunches in return? If you really think about it, Kes is MG's biggest chip that can bring back the most return. Also, he has been injury prone in the past few seasons.

That said, if we're to believe MG it would mean that RK17 would've had to come to MG asking for a trade, and not the other way around.

spideyv2 02-18-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419117)
DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

lol no thanks jeff

Franzen is an injury prone player with a terrible contract, a la David Booth

Good luck, Ted

trancehead 02-18-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3thods (Post 8419116)
Pasta forgot to mention that Douggie was saying that the particular moves he was hearing were of the "blindside" variety. Not the typical MG "picks for rental" trade at the deadline.

remind us about these typical rentals?

only one i can think of was what when canucks acquired Roy.
and it wasnt significant parts given for him

Not really racist! 02-18-2014 02:04 PM

only threw the Mule in because hes been rumored to be the piece MUST go (as a cap dump) if we were to trade Edler to them

but yes, I do agree with the above comments about how the ship has sailed with him, anybody who thinks he would be the center piece of such deal = full potato

we saw what Mantha was capable of in the world JR and he's absolutely ripping it up Q, huge upside, underrated sniper (50G)

Pacioretty/Neal/Vanek type

spideyv2 02-18-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419174)
only threw the Mule in because hes been rumored to be the piece MUST go (as a cap dump) if we were to trade Edler to them

but yes, I do agree with the above comments about how the ship has sailed with him, anybody who thinks he would be the center piece of such deal = full potato

we saw what Mantha was capable of in the world JR and he's absolutely ripping it up Q, huge upside, underrated sniper (50G)

Pacioretty/Neal/Vanek type

inb4 Bo Horvat pans out to be a Josh Holden

inb4 Mantha pans out to be a Vanek

inb4 no one is surprised because Canucks drafting is fucking terrible

Grandmaster TSE 02-18-2014 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 8419117)
DET
Edler
Hansen

VAN
Mantha
Franzen
1st or 2nd

/armchair
Gillis pls

gonna jump of Lions Gate if Gillis snags a rental

even gh0strider won't make that trade

Not really racist! 02-18-2014 02:37 PM

lol ppl ITT are like a bunch of wolves
once one person doesn't a suggestion, everyone else jumps in

but seriously next time I'll provide explanation of why in the initial post so people's jimmies don't get rustled quickly

at least with Franzen you get someone who shows up in the playoffs, his salary goes down each year after next year, cap hit is better than Booth's @4M, great goal scorer when healthy, and no cap penalty if he retires early, no NTC

but yes, injury-prone and streaky at times, sometimes lazy, aging
so its not as TERRIBLE as some suggest, but worth the risk cause Mantha is gonna be a beast, quote me on it

DET also has Tatar, Nyquist, Sheahan, Jurco up for grabs if the deal is right

m3thods 02-18-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trancehead (Post 8419173)
remind us about these typical rentals?

only one i can think of was what when canucks acquired Roy.
and it wasnt significant parts given for him

Before the 2011 run, he picked up Higgins and Lapierre which were supposed to be rentals for the 4th line as they were both UFA/RFA (I believe). They both ended up re-signing the next year.

The next year, he traded for Kassian for CoHo (the one exception where picks weren't given for the targeted player, and target wasn't a rental).

That same year, he got Pahlsson at the deadline for a prospect.

Last year would've been the Roy trade you mentioned.


There are your MG deadline deals.


For a potential Detroit deal- wouldn't it be something if Kesler wanted to go back home and become the number 1/2 center there, packaged with Edler for a bunch of Detroit's younger players? That'd qualify as quite the splash that Doug MacLean was alluding to in his cryptic comment.

Read: I'm not suggesting it's going to happen, or that it's an actual trade idea. I have no reason to believe that MG will move NTCs especially as he said he would never ask a player to move. I'm just speculating that there's a fit there with Detroit's centers on the backside of their career arcs and the Canucks' need for youthful skill. No need to roast me lol

Not really racist! 02-18-2014 03:06 PM

this thread would be better if people weren't afraid of posting their opinions... probably due to the condescending attitudes and hatred, that has built up over the years, all the trolling, and bullying, shitting on ppl for what they think (perhaps why a lot of regulars dont even bother anymore coupled with disappointment of what has transpired the past 3 seasons)

^to answer the question
trading Edler and Kesler to the same team wouldn't be smart because you wanna maximize your value, which you can with multiple teams, I guess it also depends what kinda mentality the FO has too, straight up rebuild or like an on-the-go etc.
NTC/NMC is just a whole clusterfuck Gillis has to deal with, total head scratcher

dbaz 02-18-2014 03:18 PM

obv its lalongo guys. mg clearly asked team canada not to play him after shutout due to fear of injury
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