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Old 03-17-2014, 11:22 PM   #651
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This whole situation is a good example of conspiracy theorist logic.

The Indian Ocean is thousands of square km big and happens to have an island with a US airbase on it with 100's of natives and im assuming dozens of regular military guys with the basic security clearance(cooks, maintenance, etc.).

Conclusion: The evil US took the plane there for no reason.
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Was just about to post that myself. Scary thing about it is, it actually makes about 1000 times more sense than anything else we've heard so far.
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from a pilots point of view.. since they actually know what to do in that kind of situation\
why didnt anybody think of that since day 1?!?!?!

CNN brainwashed me into thinking it was hijacked
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^Might have missed it but have they checked that place yet?
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Didn't read through this Reddit shit, but apparently that article has been debunked here:

Written by another pilot, a logical explanation for the MH370 : TrueReddit
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for those of you hating on the theorists...

you guys do know that theories are what people have to come up with so they can start looking in some direction.
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True, those are theoriest. Conspiracy Theories are what people with no expertise or knowledge come up with so they can fulfill their juvenile fantasies of feeling like knowing more than the general population, they can always be debunked but conspiracy theorist have alot of time on their hands and can quickly point something else out and pull random shit out of their ass..
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Not sure what to think of this;



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The global hunt for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight has shifted to a tiny island in the Maldives, where residents spotted a “low flying jumbo jet” hours after the aircraft disappeared.

Several witnesses in Dhaalu Atoll saw a plane heading south that bore the red stripe and white background of Malaysia Airlines planes.

The sightings, reported by a local news outlet, would have occurred more than seven hours after the plane, carrying 12 crew and 227 mainly Chinese passengers, lost contact with air traffic control and took its sudden westward turn during a flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing in the early hours of Saturday March 8.

“I’ve never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. We’ve seen seaplanes, but I’m sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly,” said an witness.

“It’s not just me either, several other residents have reported seeing the exact same thing. Some people got out of their houses to see what was causing the tremendous noise too.” The chances of another aircraft of that size flying over the island at the time were, according to Maldives sources, very low.

Though authorities are yet to confirm the sighting, the plane’s pilot, Captain Zaharie Shah, is believed to have practised landing at Male International Airport in the Maldives on a three-screen flight simulator at his home. The machine has been seized by police.

A report in a Malay language newspaper, Berita Harian, claimed Capt Zaharie also practised at three airports in India and Sri Lanka and a runway at the US military base on Diego Garcia.

Police would not confirm the details about the flight simulator.

However, Peter Chong, a friend of the pilot, insisted that there was nothing suspicious about the simulator and that Capt Zaharie invited many of his friends to use it. “He was not hiding it, he was open about it,” Mr Chong said. “He loves flying. He wanted to share the joy of flying with his friends.”

Capt Zaharie, a 53-year-old father of three, and his co-pilot, Fariq Abdul Hamid, a 27-year-old who was planning to marry his 26-year-old pilot girlfriend, Nadira Ramli, have been described by friends and family as flying enthusiasts who had no known links to extremism or psychological problems.

Authorities in Malaysia have confirmed that they believe the flight was deliberately interfered with and that its communications system intentionally disabled before the plane flew “invisible” for a further seven to eight hours.

They believe the plane’s sharp turn 40 minutes into the flight and the disabling of the communications system suggest an experienced pilot was in control. But the lack of any motive — and the disappearance of the plane — has left authorities increasingly mystified during a search that has lasted more than 11 days. As Malaysia appealed to countries in the two major search areas to share surveillance data, vital information emerged from Thai air force radars yesterday that revealed clues about the aircraft’s wayward path.

In what was a further example of the secrecy surrounding the investigation, Thailand’s air force said it detected a plane believed to be the missing MH370 flight, seven minutes after the plane’s transponder was turned off at 1.21am.

In a series of inexplicable movements, the flight reportedly headed back towards Kuala Lumpur, then turned right towards the Strait of Malacca — a sequence that corresponds with data captured by the Malaysian military.

Thailand’s Air Vice Marshal Montol Suchookorn said the plane did not enter Thai airspace, and that the data was not released until now because “we did not pay any attention to it”.

China has increased its involvement and yesterday revealed that the 154 Chinese passengers aboard the flight had been cleared of “destructive behaviour”.

Huang Huikang, China’s ambassador to Malaysia, also told a briefing of the Chinese media that Interpol had cleared two Iranians aboard the flight who were travelling on false passports. This left 83 passengers as feasible suspects, including 10 crew members plus two pilots.

A further complication in the search for the plane is that the signals or “pings” from the black box – sent at a certain frequency, and only traceable within a certain distance – will only be sent for a month.

The Daily Telegraph learnt yesterday that the aircraft could have been located if Malaysia Airlines had paid just $10 (6) for additional satellite information.

The airline, along with several international carriers, opted to transmit only minimal information rather than pay an additional small fee to transmit detailed flight data. “For 10 dollars, you could have told within half an hour’s flying time where the plane would have gone,” a source said.

MH370: Maldives Islanders claim to have spotted 'low flying jet? - Telegraph
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^ take it with a HUGEEE gain of salt.

At this rate, sooner or later...someone from Vancouver Island going to chime in and say they spotted a low flying jet too
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NBC News: Flight 370 was programmed to turn away from flight to Beijing at least 12 minutes before co-pilot signed off, sources say
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^Might have missed it but have they checked that place yet?
Did you not read this pilot's actual theory?

He figures that the pilots probably set the plane on a course for Palau Langkawi airport before being disabled by a fire... if that happened, the plane wouldn't have landed, but kept on going until ran out of fuel and ditched. If that's the case, "that place" is still a wedge of mostly ocean several thousand kilometers long and expanding to dozens if not hundreds of kilometers wide - it's still a MASSIVE area to search.

And, if you follow a line from approximately where last contact was, past Langkawi, and keep going for, say, 7 hours' flying time, you end up in the general vicinity of:

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Right. Dhaalu Atoll. Not PRECISELY... but if you figure the plane wasn't on autopilot, and wasn't under anyone's control, but just kept flying straight ahead in the general direction it was pointed... then it's not inconceivable.

The only thing that doesn't track with me on this theory (I didn't read the Reddit thread, I don't know if they mentioned it), is that the plane would have probably passed pretty close to Langkawi's air corridor, and over the tip of North Sumatra, and would have HAD to be picked up on SOMEONE'S RADAR along the way as a large unidentified blip. It couldn't have been under the RADAR, because at that low altitude, it wouldn't have had anywhere near the range it would at normal cruise.

Anyway, that aside, it sounds like a logical, reasonable explanation of what could have happened... which is more than one can say about most other theories.

Occam's Razor cuts deep...
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Never mind, guys... mystery solved.

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Not sure what to think of this;

Interesting piece of reporting right there...

Ive never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. Weve seen seaplanes, but Im sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly, said a witness.

one of the residents claims that the plane was so low they could make out the doors... wouldn't the next logical question be "Did you see any writing on the side of the plane?"

I mean if they could see the plane was very low, they could see if it said "Malaysian Airlines" on it... instead the reporter chooses to move on to the next topic... if the witness confirmed they saw "Malaysian Airlines" on the side of the plane, it would make the story a lot more believable.
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off topic. but
any one know what car is behind the first officer's home?

https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/f...4/03/16/31.jpg

edit: one is maybe Nissan Qashqai
whats the other one?
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off topic. but
any one know what car is behind the first officer's home?

https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/f...4/03/16/31.jpg

edit: one is maybe Nissan Qashqai
whats the other one?
Looks like a Subaru Legacy
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Interesting piece of reporting right there...

Ive never seen a jet flying so low over our island before. Weve seen seaplanes, but Im sure that this was not one of those. I could even make out the doors on the plane clearly, said a witness.

one of the residents claims that the plane was so low they could make out the doors... wouldn't the next logical question be "Did you see any writing on the side of the plane?"

I mean if they could see the plane was very low, they could see if it said "Malaysian Airlines" on it... instead the reporter chooses to move on to the next topic... if the witness confirmed they saw "Malaysian Airlines" on the side of the plane, it would make the story a lot more believable.
Airline names tend to be well above the window line on the fuselage.



If you're more-or-less under a plane, you won't see the name. You'll see the logo on the tail, maybe call letters on the belly, but not the name.



Yes, I realize this is a distant high-altitude shot and you can't make out the doors... from this ANGLE, you also can't see the name of the airline.
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Considering we know that India doesn't always have its radar on, and Malaysia barely pay attention to theirs, I don't think we can safely say " someone should have seen it on radar if..." for any scenario.

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Except they last tracked it flying north-ish, off the west coast. And if it's on fire, it can't fly for hours and hours.

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The funny thing is they said they would put national security second to find the plane.

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Article sounds about as flakey as the oil rig worker. In neither case did anyone bother to mention what time this happened at.
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The sad thing is, plane will probably never be found unless it comes back for a terrorist attack (I hope not)

If it were hijacked for the engineers / valuable cargo, the plane will never be found as the peepz prob completely incinerated every part of the jet by now
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I was watching CNN and it sounds like they're FINALLY shifting their stories from the conspiracy nonsense they've been spewing for the past few days and focusing more on scenarios that make more logical sense like a possible fire or some sort of other emergency which took down this plane.

They also spoke with a former TWA pilot who said he's pretty certain that it was a fire that took the plane down and said from what he's read the pilots seem like stand up guys and he suspects the pilots (if proven) will be hero's because in his eyes they were attempting to turn back and find a airport to land at due to a serious emergency on board.

I hope for the sake of the families they find this plane.
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If it's on fire, it can't fly for hours and hours.
If they had a fire severe enough to shut down these systems then the plane couldn't have flown off until it ran out of gas.
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If they had a fire severe enough to shut down these systems then the plane couldn't have flown off until it ran out of gas.
They could if the climb to thin air extinguished it.
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I read somewhere that the pilots may have tried to fly up to 45,000 feet for thin air to try to extinguish the fire which didn't work so subsequently they tried to do a dive to take out the fire if there was indeed a fire? Also, the plane may have been set on autopilot before the pilots were rendered unconscious therefore the plane just kept flying until fuel ran out
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I read somewhere that the pilots may have tried to fly up to 45,000 feet for thin air to try to extinguish the fire which didn't work so subsequently they tried to do a dive to take out the fire if there was indeed a fire? Also, the plane may have been set on autopilot before the pilots were rendered unconscious therefore the plane just kept flying until fuel ran out
and how can anyone know any of this if they dont even know where the plane is ?

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