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Old 03-09-2014, 07:23 AM   #126
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right, but your passport is scanned before departure. either way, it would be so easy to set up a connected system for passports to be verified vs. interpol information
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right, but your passport is scanned before departure. either way, it would be so easy to set up a connected system for passports to be verified vs. interpol information
UPDATE 1-Interpol says use of stolen passports on flights of great concern | Reuters

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Interpol said no checks of its database had been made by any country on an Austrian and an Italian passport between the time that they were stolen and the departure of the flight.

"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in Interpol's databases," Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said in a statement.

The police agency said it was in contact with its offices in the countries involved to try to establish the true identities of the passengers who boarded the flight with the stolen documents.

It said it is also checking all other passports on the flight "which may have been reported stolen".

Noble expressed frustration that few of Interpol's 190 member countries "systematically" search the database to determine whether documents being used to board a plane are registered as lost or stolen.
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The plane could have got sucked into a vortex, other planes have gone missing leaving no trace behind as well. Places like the Bermuda Triangle are known for this sort of activity. Very erie to say the least.
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^LOL I hope you were joking man. Numerous studies have shown that there's nothing fishy about the Bermuda Triangle, nor do 'vortices' show up out of nowhere.

I find that in this day and age, it's almost unbelievable to lose a plane. Even Air France 447's story is 2009 is unbelievable, yet 5 years later it can still happen.

I hope for the potential victims' families sake they find out what happened sooner rather than later..
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The plane could have got sucked into a vortex, other planes have gone missing leaving no trace behind as well. Places like the Bermuda Triangle are known for this sort of activity. Very erie to say the least.
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The Bermuda Triangle is equivalent to people telling ghost stories. The stories from that region are predominantly from the early ages of flight to just after the Second World War. Though it's possible there may be some kind of natural magnetic field distortion or other phenomena that would throw off an aircrafts instruments.... it's also a breeding ground for severe weather due to air and ocean currents. Back in those days the instrumentation was not very sophisticated and neither was our knowledge of the regions weather. Aircraft didn't have crash-proof black boxes with GPS transmitters coordinating with the powerful radars and radios we have today.

The point is aircraft don't simply vanish, get sucked into a vortex, fly through a blackhole, or get zapped by aliens. In the Bermuda Triangle they all got disoriented either due to pilot error, instrument failure, weather, or a combination of all of the above. For example a sudden change in weather such as the formation of a severe thunderstorm or hurricane drastically alters the atmospheric pressure, if a pilot doesn't compensate now their altimeter is way off, they stop trusting their altimeter and now question the other instrumentation, but that island looks like one they recognize from a different region that they saw 25 minutes ago on a different heading, they're not lost but think they are and start guessing, no GPS, too far out for local radar or radio to help, weather is reducing visibility, it all looks the same, flying in disoriented circles..... Those men and women are all buried at sea. There's a reason you haven't heard fables of vanishing aircraft in the Bermuda Triangle for decades and that's thanks to our modern technology, understanding of weather phenomenon, and safety standards.

As for Flight MH370 unfortunately all signs are pointing towards a hijacking or terrorist attack. The odds of a modern aircraft (brand new by industry standards) operated by an international carrier simply coming apart mid-air due to a structural malfunction are beyond extremely low. An experienced Captain and FO wouldn't go radio silent through any other emergency.
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Close...the fight actually departed on March 8, early Saturday morning.
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The Bermuda Triangle is equivalent to people telling ghost stories.

There is a lot of evidence for the existence of ghosts. Shit, I even saw a floating wet, black ball at Hycroft Manor years ago.
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There is a lot of evidence for the existence of ghosts. Shit, I even saw a floating wet, black ball at Hycroft Manor years ago.
i don't think you know what the word "evidence" means.
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There is a lot of evidence for the existence of ghosts. Shit, I even saw a floating wet, black ball at Hycroft Manor years ago.
lol, yeah....and Grizzly Adams had a beard...
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i don't think you know what the word "evidence" means.

Would you say capturing disembodied voices on digital recorders evidence when people have claimed a location is haunted? It happens. Years ago I captured "Leave us alone" on my video camera's audio at Mountainview Cemetery.

I won't argue in this thread but there are a massive amount of people world-wide that have had paranormal experiences that are completely unexplainable. Things like the Bermuda Triangle have much more logical explainations for why planes crash there.
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i find it shocking they haven't found any lugguages/bodies within 50 nautical miles 48 hours later
it's only 100 miles off the coast too not in the middle of the pacific
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1) how do people with stolen passports get through security - everything is online and connected now, right? so wouldn't they be flagged? this bit really bothers me (i'm flying to and around asia in a week, though i know by the numbers this is a one in a million thing)
If your passport was stolen, how long would it take you to notice and then report it? It's not like the passport gets flagged the instant someone steals it.
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Close...the fight actually departed on March 8, early Saturday morning.
The incident is described as March 7 due to GMT time.
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If your passport was stolen, how long would it take you to notice and then report it? It's not like the passport gets flagged the instant someone steals it.
Both reports were missing 1.5-2 years ago.
Not sure if it's confirmed but I think only one or the two passport was only reported to the Interpol.
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The third day of search and rescue efforts are about to get underway and there is still no sign of MH370. From the various sources I have been reading on the situation, there appears to be a lack of coordination between the different governments involved in the operation. Vietnamese officials have been quoted as saying that the Malaysian authorities have been extremely tight lipped regarding their operations. Perhaps its time for these agencies to conduct a more cohesive operation by coordinating efforts and sharing pertinent information so that the operation can become more effective.

It boggles my mind that Malaysian authorities are now devoting--at least in part--their operation to scour the straights of Malacca!? This suggests that MH370 in fact deviated from its flight plan and made its way back across the malay peninsula without being detected by radar!? Are the Malaysians withholding some information?
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It boggles my mind that Malaysian authorities are now devoting--at least in part--their operation to scour the straights of Malacca!? This suggests that MH370 in fact deviated from its flight plan and made its way back across the malay peninsula without being detected by radar!? Are the Malaysians withholding some information?
They found evidence on military and civilian radar that the flight actually deviated from it's normal flight path similar to a u-turn before it disappeared.

Source: News from the Associated Press
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its a terrorist hijacking for sure
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If it was a hijacking that it might suggest that the hijackers took over the controls and didn't know how to fly the plane.
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I doubt the hijackers knows how to turn off all radar detection though
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I doubt the hijackers knows how to turn off all radar detection though
Regardless of whether or not you manually switch off the ADS transponders, the aircraft would still show up on radar, hence the unlikely-ness of the aircraft making its way across land undetected (which I mentioned in my last post ).

I am clearly spitballing here, but I think at this point its clear that the aircraft is not tucked away on some remote dirt landing strip somewhere in South East Asia. There has likely been a catastrophic event which has led to a rapid and uncontrolled crash into the surrounding seas. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, searchers have been unable to locate any major debris fields due to a number of possibilities: The aircraft and any other parts belonging to it have sunk to the bottom of the ocean or that searchers are not looking in the right areas.
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Watched Non-Stop this weekend and then I came out of the theatre to hear about this news.

Definitely felt very weirded out.
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There has likely been a catastrophic event which has led to a rapid and uncontrolled crash into the surrounding seas.

Those poor people.
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UPDATE [8:11am]: A video clip of a man dialling the number of his elder brother was shown on a Beijing Television's news bulletin. The call got connected, but no one picked up. He made the phone call three times. Full story here.
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