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Old 03-10-2014, 06:16 PM   #226
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Could it be aliens opening up some sort of black hole into their world to learn about humans?
I can't really think of any other way
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just saw this elsewhere, ships looking for the wreckage. Crazy
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why would they cover it up? how would they do so? the us government isn't an all knowing all powerful entity.

but a weak minded individual will always seek the laziest scenario. oh the big bad evil gubberment done blowed dem up out der sky!
Well there was TWA flight 800 that everyone thinks US missiles brought it down and there was explosive residue found on the wreckage

and witnesses saw a fiery streak/s head upwards towards the plane before an explosion

this was back in '96 don't know the details precisely but in the end after a govt investigation it was found not to be true

but people who believe it was a missile strike say "well obviously they would say that" etc etc

It was a major topic back then and the US media wasn't so biased/pro america than it is now and they were actively entertaining the idea

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DENVER – As the mystery of what happened to the 239 people on board Malaysia flight 370 deepens, a Colorado satellite imaging company is launching an effort to crowdsource the search, asking the public for help analyzing high-resolution images for any sign of the missing airliner.

Longmont, Colo.-based DigitalGlobe trained cameras from its five orbiting satellites Saturday on the Gulf of Thailand region where Malaysia flight 370 was last heard from, said Luke Barrington, senior manager of Geospatial Big Data for DigitalGlobe.

The images being gathered will be made available for free to the public on a website called Tomnod. Anyone can click on the link and begin searching the images, tagging anything that looks suspicious. Each pixel on a computer screen represents half a meter on the ocean’s surface, Barrington told ABC News.

“For people who aren’t able to drive a boat through the Pacific Ocean to get to the Malaysian peninsula, or who can’t fly airplanes to look there, this is a way that they can contribute and try to help out,” Barrington said.
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They actually do have GPS tracking... Its called ADS-B.
Slowly being phased in. I think only Australia has any legal requirement for it right now.
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*sorry what I mean by hijackers landing it in another country I didn't mean at an obvious airport, I was thinking more of a private landing strip hidden in the jungle. There are semi-autonomous regions in SE Asia that are dominated by drug smugglers/terrorist/seperatist and as mentioned there are also alot of holes in radar coverage.

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I'm no expert but I don't think a plane that size could escape every radar long enough to be able to land on some sort of private runway undetected?
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Exactly.

If the military can detect a missile flying at their country (and even something as small as a bird), you just can't hide something like the size of a Boeing 777 from the sky.

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Radar isn't some magical all seeing eye, when 9/11 happened the FAA couldn't find some of the planes for a long time because they were flying low or w.e reason. And that was in the States where i'd assume there is more than enough radar coverage. And to compare a plane possibly flying low to a missile(i'm assuming you meant an ICBM) in the stratosphere is kind of 2 different things.


If radar is so perfect than why did the plane(and many other planes temporarily everyday) go missing in the first place? It's a piece of technology just like everything else. We'd assume just because we are in the city a cellphone tower can give us our 4G but does it work all the time? No, we might be underground, in the perfect spot for terrain to block reception, or a strange weather/solar occurance happening at the moment.

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i dont think anyone mentioned this as a scenario but maybe the US Navy or any other Navy intentionally/unintentionally shot it down and now there tryin to cover it up...
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[edit] I'm in no way making fun of the kid in the gif.

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u got that much planes flying on earth this second u can't really use a radar to track every one of them... especially one that is all of the sudden went missing without a trace...
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Ok, so the tech exists, at least for ground use. I'm assuming it's fairly new, so even if they want to implement it in aircraft there's all the steps Soundy listed they need to get it through. Even if the governing bodies decided that this was going to be implemented, it's not going to happen with any sort of speed anyways. Since this would only make a plane easier to find, and not actually safer, by the time it could be implemented other things that actually improve safety will be employed and planes will be better still.

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Besides, even if it does help me find the wreckage, the plane is still down; I still have to replace it.
Exactly, and this may sound harsh, but more likely than not everyone on that plane is dead regardless of whether you know where they died or not. Unless people are stealing planes or taking them for detours on the company dime (presumably why you would put these systems in trucks) the only use in the air would be to find a plane that disappeared. Using the existing systems, out of all the flights in the world, how many go missing? On top of that, the GPS systems still aren't going to be flawless. So if there's power failures or the plane explodes you're not going to get a signal from it. And then of the planes that do go missing for an extended period of time, how many have survivors? If you're searching for a hiker or snowmobiler you're looking for someone still alive, if a plane goes down in such a way that it can't be found, chances are pretty slim that anyone survived.

TL;DR - You're talking about adding an extremely expensive to implement system that would rarely be needed that doesn't actually make planes safer (since it would only help finding badly crashed planes), and could even make them less safe if they cause interference. That would be a hard sell to the airplane regulation makers IMO.
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Radar isn't some magical all seeing eye, when 9/11 happened the FAA couldn't find some of the planes for a long time because they were flying low or w.e reason. And that was in the States where i'd assume there is more than enough radar coverage.
Caught a news item this evening where they noted that RADAR (at least civilian RADAR) is generally only good to 120 miles or so... and aside from ship-board military systems, once a plane gets over water more than that distance from shore, it does essentially vanish from RADAR tracking and must rely on GPS tracking and radio or satellite position reporting to the tracking systems.
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All planes have to use GPS tracking once they're outside RADAR range, the catch is relaying that position info back to the airport(s) and related entities. MapMyRun on your phone will do it, but it needs a data connection... WiFi and 4G won't work when you're out over the water, so you're relying either on satellite communication, or some form of packet radio... and then you're back to the long testing stages again, and the growing R&D costs.
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So someone (in malaysia) who knows the two using stolen passports says they were trying to seek asylum in europe and their flight was simply stopping in china (based on a BBC investigation)

add to that they did book tickets to the netherlands when making their purchase

(was just on bbc)


Malaysian police/general? just confirmed they believe one of those with stolen passports is a 19yr old Iranian seeking asylum in Germany and he has no history of criminal activity/suspicions of terrorist ties


edit: they're certain thats what the kid was up to because his mother is in germany and contacted malaysia seeking information about him and provided the stolen passport info

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All planes have to use GPS tracking once they're outside RADAR range, the catch is relaying that position info back to the airport(s) and related entities. MapMyRun on your phone will do it, but it needs a data connection... WiFi and 4G won't work when you're out over the water, so you're relying either on satellite communication, or some form of packet radio... and then you're back to the long testing stages again, and the growing R&D costs.

I'm not talking about Wifi and 4G, ADS-B information is transferred via VHF frequencies. sure there are holes in VHF coverage over the ocean (which is why transoceanic flights still use HF and CPDLC), but automatic position reporting in lieu of traditional radar means is definitely not non-existent.
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suck it bigots

(now the bigots will call for us to not jump to conclusions and see how this turns out)
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I'm not sure if this was posted here or not, but the results for the oil slicks actually turned out to be regular cargo ship fuel which now raises more questions because if a plane were to crash in the water, oil rises up to the surface of the water and would be visible...however, theres still no signs of anything...
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It was definitely hijacked and then rerouted to land somewhere in the middle east
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