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Old 03-08-2014, 05:59 PM   #76
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FBI to investigate disappearance of a Malaysian Airlines jet - latimes.com
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the fbi isnt taking over the investigation they're just doing their own or assisting the FBI often assists in foreign investigations if so requested by respective governments or if US citizens are involved.

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U.S. officials said they are looking at whether this could be terrorism, as they would with any plane crash until proved otherwise. Though two passengers apparently used stolen passports, “there is no indication this is a terrorist attack; stolen passports are certainly not indicative of a terrorist attack,” a senior counter terrorism official said.
The official said there was "no evidence" of terrorism thus far. Law enforcement officials were not authorized to speak publicly.

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But he emphsized that no known terrorist link has surfaced, and no organization has claimed responsibility for downing the plane...

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An official at the Department of Homeland Security said it would be a first if the plane was brought down by two terrorists who boarded the jet carrying stolen passports. "We've never seen that," he said.

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"Just because they were stolen doesn't mean the travelers were terrorists," the Homeland Security source cautioned. "They could have been nothing more than thieves. Or they could have simply bought the passports on the black market."
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I just watched this last weekend ... then I see this news ... 2 people with stolen passports ...
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To StylinRed, I kind of figured that, I meant seeing the pattern of terrorism from the Latin American countries, to the Middle East, and currently Russia saying it was being blackmailed over Syria then the pre-Olympic bombs killing people... I wouldnt be surprised if this has something to do with our evil empire intimidating China.

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3 - Alive: The Andes disaster of flight 571

A chartered Uruguayan Air Force plane carrying 45 passengers and crew - including a Rugby Union team from Montevideo - crashed into the Andes mountains in bad weather.

Of the 45 people on the plane, 12 died in the crash.

Six more died in the days afterward, and a further eight in an avalanche that ran through the plane's wreckage, where they were taking shelter.

The remaining 16 passengers only survived by resorting to cannibalism, feeding on the corpses of their dead friends.

They were not found until 72 days after the crash, when two passengers made a ten-day trek across mountainous terrain, eventually finding a Chilean travelling salesman who gave them food and alerted authorities.

The story was immortalised in the 1993 film Alive.
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They're now looking at if the plane had turned back around before/after disappearing

BBC News - Missing Malaysia Airlines plane 'may have turned back'

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Radar signals show a Malaysia Airlines plane that has been missing for more than 24 hours may have turned back, Malaysian officials have said.

Rescue teams looking for the plane have now widened their search area.

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But Malaysia's civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman told a press conference in Kuala Lumpur that the search area had been expanded, to include the west coast of Malaysia.

He also said five passengers booked on to the flight did not board, though their luggage was removed.
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The captain, who asked to not be named, said his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was far into Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to relay, using his plane's emergency frequency, to MH370 for the latter to establish its position, as the authorities could not contact the aircraft.
"We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace.
"The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie (Ahmad Shah, 53,) or Fariq (Abdul Hamid, 27), but I was sure it was the co-pilot.
"There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.
"That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection," he told the New Sunday Times.


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Yes, relaying position reports is as common as taking a shit, and on its own shouldn't draw any sort of flags... but if you are on the emergency frequency (121.75) that that itself should have prompted the guys on the narita bound flight to probe deeper and ask them if they are in distress - since the relaying of messages under normal ops uses normal control frequencies... you will NEVER use 121.75 unless you are in danger or really have zero idea of what is going on.
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I feel for the families who have no idea what happen to their loved ones.

And I wonder if this incident was a dry run with suicide bombers for a terror group to see if the explosives they had worked, maybe that's why no terror group has claimed responsibility (if terrorism related). That to me is scary as fuck because you potential have explosive material out there that can be brought onto planes without any detecting.
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Nevermind a bomb, the fact that a plane can disappear and not be found in almost two days is scary as fuck enough.
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Ahmad and Abdul those are arab names right? hmmmm...
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I feel for the families who have no idea what happen to their loved ones.

And I wonder if this incident was a dry run with suicide bombers for a terror group to see if the explosives they had worked, maybe that's why no terror group has claimed responsibility (if terrorism related). That to me is scary as fuck because you potential have explosive material out there that can be brought onto planes without any detecting.
didn't aircraft lose contact first but didn't go off radar for almost another hour?
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Yes, relaying position reports is as common as taking a shit, and on its own shouldn't draw any sort of flags... but if you are on the emergency frequency (121.75) that that itself should have prompted the guys on the narita bound flight to probe deeper and ask them if they are in distress - since the relaying of messages under normal ops uses normal control frequencies... you will NEVER use 121.75 unless you are in danger or really have zero idea of what is going on.
Using 121.5 is fairly normal in day to day operation. Although not really recommended, it's completely understandable to use it when out of range from a controller. An aircraft would normally be speaking to ATC on one radio, and monitor 121.5 on the other. If they have lost contact on radio 1, usually they would try and contact someone on the same frequency, but using 121.5 is also an option as every airliner/ATC should be monitoring. The fact they made a position report is null, and this doesn't draw any flags in my mind.

As a widebody pilot, this one confuses the shit out of me. The fact there was no Mayday call, signs of distress or anything just tells me whatever happened, happened fast…. or was planned all along.
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Pilot suicide could be possible. It's happen before, I believe Egypt Air?

And supposedly Richard Quest of CNN filmed a segment aboard a MS plane with the same two pilots that were on the plane that went down last week.
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I feel for the families who have no idea what happen to their loved ones.

And I wonder if this incident was a dry run with suicide bombers for a terror group to see if the explosives they had worked, maybe that's why no terror group has claimed responsibility (if terrorism related). That to me is scary as fuck because you potential have explosive material out there that can be brought onto planes without any detecting.
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Pilot suicide could be possible. It's happen before, I believe Egypt Air?

And supposedly Richard Quest of CNN filmed a segment aboard a MS plane with the same two pilots that were on the plane that went down last week.
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Using 121.5 is fairly normal in day to day operation. Although not really recommended, it's completely understandable to use it when out of range from a controller. An aircraft would normally be speaking to ATC on one radio, and monitor 121.5 on the other. If they have lost contact on radio 1, usually they would try and contact someone on the same frequency, but using 121.5 is also an option as every airliner/ATC should be monitoring. The fact they made a position report is null, and this doesn't draw any flags in my mind.

As a widebody pilot, this one confuses the shit out of me. The fact there was no Mayday call, signs of distress or anything just tells me whatever happened, happened fast…. or was planned all along.
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Richard Quest flew with first officer and supposedly the captain a few days before the accident;

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/03/08/newday-quest-malaysia-plane-search.cnn.html
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could be like the bermuda triangle shit... or other out of world shit. Just sayin, anythings possible. This universe is full of strange fucked up shit we cannot even think of on this earth yet.
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