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Old 03-09-2014, 05:58 PM   #151
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UPDATE [8:11am]: A video clip of a man dialling the number of his elder brother was shown on a Beijing Television's news bulletin. The call got connected, but no one picked up. He made the phone call three times. Full story here.
This is news from yesterday. Its already confirmed by the cell network provider the phone number is not reachable and all they were hearing was the international ring tone before being connected.
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UPDATE [8:11am]: A video clip of a man dialling the number of his elder brother was shown on a Beijing Television's news bulletin. The call got connected, but no one picked up. He made the phone call three times. Full story here.
I've had occasions where my cellphone has been off and during that time people trying to reach me have said that my number was ringing even though it was off (I was traveling at the time)
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How likely is it that the airplane disintegrated 35,000 ft in the air preventing any large debris falling into the water?
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Floating object that was spotted yesterday is not from the missing plane. So still no sign of the plane...

Floating object not related to MH370: U.S. rescuers | Tu?i Tr? news
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Watched Non-Stop this weekend and then I came out of the theatre to hear about this news.

Definitely felt very weirded out.
guess i wasn't the only one... and i saw south park the same day i heard about this news. It was an episode on zimmerman and the plane crashing on the mountains....... disturbing indeed.
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^ Watched World War Z on Friday night with the zombie on the airplane scene and when i came across this thread, it gave me chills and goosebumps.
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Interesting, but totally true article.
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 makes it clear: we need to rethink black boxes | Stephen Trimble | Comment is free | theguardian.com
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wonder if governments like the US are using their spy satellites to search for the plane or would that be considered a waste of resources
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How likely is it that the airplane disintegrated 35,000 ft in the air preventing any large debris falling into the water?
Is that a serious question? Absolutely zero. If the aircraft broke apart or a bomb was set off at that altitude there would be thousands of pieces of debris floating on the surface spread over a very large area. From fuselage to luggage to seat cushions and bodies (or body parts).

If the aircraft was put in to an intentional dive it may be a different scenario. The aircraft would be supersonic very quickly even at idle throttle. If it "penciled in" ie. hit the water nose first straight down the impact would be devastating though much of the fuselage itself might remain intact trapping luggage and bodies inside and carrying them down. However the wings and probably tail would shear off and there would still be debris but it may be very localized. Without knowing the aircrafts exact location it would be like finding a needle in a haystack before the evidence eventually sinks and is carried away by the current. As it is the debris has already had 2-3 days to drift or sink.

Evidence of the aircraft will eventually be found. But with such a wide search area and no real starting point they may never find the black box of this one, and we will subsequently never know what happened onboard.
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If it "penciled in" ie. hit the water nose first straight down the impact would be devastating though much of the fuselage itself might remain intact trapping luggage and bodies inside and carrying them down. However the wings and probably tail would shear off and there would still be debris but it may be very localized.

Isn't that what happened with the plane that hit the Pentagon? It went in at such a speed that it pulled the wings in and made that small hole where most of the wreckage got sucked inside.


My guess is that it got hijacked by terrorists and the controls were fought over, causing a nose-dive, or the captain/co-pilot locked the other pilot out of the cabin and then suicided the entire plane.


It is so sad to think about all of those innocent people. I don't pray often but I will pray again for them tonight.
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Isn't that what happened with the plane that hit the Pentagon? It went in at such a speed that it pulled the wings in and made that small hole where most of the wreckage got sucked inside.


My guess is that it got hijacked by terrorists and the controls were fought over, causing a nose-dive, or the captain/co-pilot locked the other pilot out of the cabin and then suicided the entire plane.


It is so sad to think about all of those innocent people. I don't pray often but I will pray again for them tonight.
I don't believe an aircraft actually hit the pentagon, more like a missile or something but that's what I think.
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Isn't that what happened with the plane that hit the Pentagon? It went in at such a speed that it pulled the wings in and made that small hole where most of the wreckage got sucked inside.
There is absolutely no way a commercial airliner hit the Pentagon or went down in a field in Pennsylvania and completely vaporized. But that's another discussion for another thread.

This Greek Air Force Mirage hit the water and remained almost completely intact, sinking to the ocean floor. It is however a much smaller and more rigid fuselage than a commercial airliner.


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Since there was a group of semi conductor workers on the plane... maybe it was a planned terrorist hijack to kidnap these people to make bombs for them

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wonder if governments like the US are using their spy satellites to search for the plane or would that be considered a waste of resources
Not completely what you were asking however this adds to the story

Pentagon Data Suggests Jet Didn't Explode: New York Times - NBC News

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"Preliminary surveillance data" examined by the Pentagon suggests the missing Malaysia Airlines jet did not explode over the South China Sea, according to The New York Times.

The newspaper cited a U.S. government official who spoke on the condition of anonymity as suggesting "a system that looks for flashes around the world" had not identified any sign of a blast. NBC News could not immediately confirm the report.
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Pentagon Data Suggests Jet Didn't Explode: New York Times - NBC News
if there is no debris field, isnt it obvious that the plane didnt explode or disintegrate unless the plane was completely vaporized

maybe the plane landed in the water and sank, sort of what happened in that new york river plane landing
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if there is no debris field, isnt it obvious that the plane didnt explode or disintegrate unless the plane was completely vaporized

maybe the plane landed in the water and sank, sort of what happened in that new york river plane landing
If they laid it in there as nicely as Sully, I'd assume you'd have a debris field of life jackets and people floating around the ocean after the plane sunk.
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If the aircraft was put in to an intentional dive it may be a different scenario. The aircraft would be supersonic very quickly even at idle throttle. If it "penciled in" ie. hit the water nose first straight down the impact would be devastating though much of the fuselage itself might remain intact trapping luggage and bodies inside and carrying them down. However the wings and probably tail would shear off and there would still be debris but it may be very localized. Without knowing the aircrafts exact location it would be like finding a needle in a haystack before the evidence eventually sinks and is carried away by the current. As it is the debris has already had 2-3 days to drift or sink.
Something similar (at least initially) happened with a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValuJet_Flight_592 several years ago: the whole thing was essentially swallowed by the swamp, with practically no floating debris and almost no visible impact crater.

Other cases have had planes going down in thick jungles that literally close back in over them, making the wrecks extremely difficult to find.
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If it was an act of terror similar to this, (SilkAir Flight 185 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) would the outcome of scattered debris be the same?
My father has actually been flying in Asia for the last three years, I was speaking to him about it and he said often times there are lots of 'no radar' zones through out the area.
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When I say similar to this in no way am I accusing crew of anything, more so the aircraft being hijacked.
Another point my Dad made was if this was an act of terrorism, why hasn't any one claimed to be responsible?
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If it was an act of terror similar to this, (SilkAir Flight 185 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) would the outcome of scattered debris be the same?
My father has actually been flying in Asia for the last three years, I was speaking to him about it and he said often times there are lots of 'no radar' zones through out the area.
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When I say similar to this in no way am I accusing crew of anything, more so the aircraft being hijacked.
Another point my Dad made was if this was an act of terrorism, why hasn't any one claimed to be responsible?
You don't necessarily need to have a group or organization take credit for something to terrorize the public. Afterall, some people just want to watch the world burn.
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What a horrific few days it's been for the families of the victims. It's unimaginable not knowing what happen or if they'll ever recover the bodies. And authorities will probably be reconstructing and collecting debris from this crash for years.
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if there is no debris field, isnt it obvious that the plane didnt explode or disintegrate unless the plane was completely vaporized

maybe the plane landed in the water and sank, sort of what happened in that new york river plane landing
Some experts were discussing that on tv just now they believed it was possible for this pilot to land it in the water but noted that it was at night and suggested that would make it unlikely
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Ive been meaning to ask members here for an honest answer to this question:
If terrorism did happen in your flight,would you have the courage to try and do something to stop it? Ask yourselves honestly...
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Thats a pretty broad question better fitted for somewhere other than a thread that has been pretty relevant to the situation so far other than a few absolutely retarded theories. Obviously, like anything, it depends on a multitude of factors.
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