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Badhobz 09-03-2025 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9191889)
BRB getting some Sailun Chowhais rn



Can't rely on FB Marketplace sellers for receipts. Right now leaning towards the Contis as I get IPP pricing for them.

Dats epic. Don’t come around here I’ll steal your Chou hai’s

EvoFire 09-03-2025 03:10 PM

The DM-V2 are also loud. Tread hum is very pronounced compared to the Pirelli All Seasons on the X5.

AstulzerRZD 09-03-2025 03:13 PM

The #2 tire store (after Costco) in Toronto even thinks the DM-V2 is too aggressive and wears too quickly in their temps/use cases.

They generally recommend VikingContact 7

roastpuff 09-03-2025 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9191896)
The DM-V2 are also loud. Tread hum is very pronounced compared to the Pirelli All Seasons on the X5.

I've actually had those tires before on my Ram 1500. In 2016. Lol. And yes they're loud, about as bad as KO2s were.

AstulzerRZD 09-03-2025 03:25 PM

You can skip the Bridgestone LM005 too, wears out in under 20k kms.

radeonboy 09-03-2025 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9191883)
Have a choice to make...

Used 235/55R19 Michelin X-Ice Snows on FB Marketplace (80-90% tread) $700-750 + $160 mount and balance (call it $900)

Brand new 235/55R19 Continental Viking Contact 8 (that's right, v8 is out) for $915 tax in + $160 m&b (call it $1100)

Brand new 255/50R19 Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V2 (old tire at this point, released in like 2016?) at Costco $1300 tax in everything included. ($1300).

I went through this exercise last year and ended up with the X-Ice Snows, which I've used before and like how they perform.

When I was getting the tires mounted, the tire shop mentioned how the Viking Contact 7s are not really designed for our slushy winter seasons and more suited for the Alberta/Ontario types of winter. Not sure how the 8s are, but may warrant some extra research.

Besides tread wear, do you know how new the tires are?

roastpuff 09-03-2025 08:38 PM

Well, the VC8 was released this year in North America, last year in Europe. So they are basically brand spanking new. X-Ice Snows are from the 2021/2022 winter in terms of release date iirc.

DM-V2s are from the mid 2010s so honestly they're out of the running for me. A lot of innovation has happened for winter tire tech in the past decade.

I currently run X-Ice Snows on my Audi, and I do like them for winter duties. Both the X-Ice Snow and the VC8 fall under the "Nordic" winter tire category, so they are similar.

red kryptonite 09-04-2025 09:31 PM

why not some snowdragons :okay:

roastpuff 09-04-2025 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9192046)
why not some snowdragons :okay:

Because they don’t come in that size

EDIT: Also my IPP pricing is cheaper than anything else I can find new except Rovelos and even then the difference is like $15 between no name, and the VC8.

radeonboy 09-05-2025 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by roastpuff (Post 9192051)
EDIT: Also my IPP pricing is cheaper than anything else I can find new except Rovelos and even then the difference is like $15 between no name, and the VC8.

Can I ask how one gets IPP pricing? I do need a new set of winters this season.

EvoFire 09-05-2025 09:03 AM

What is IPP pricing? I need some new snows for the M3

Gumby 09-05-2025 09:35 AM

Is this a good price from PMCtire, or should I wait?

Tire handling fees $26
20 chrome lugnuts $43.38
TPMS $197.96
Fast Wheels - EV01(+) - Grey - Titanium - 19" x 7.5", 40 Offset, 5x114.3 (Bolt Pattern), 67.1mm HUB $1,159.16
Michelin - X-Ice Snow - 235/55R19 XL 105H BSW $1,238.23
Subtotal $2,664.73 (includes 10% off)
Taxes $319.78
Total $2,984.51

Mount and balance included
Free shipping

trollface 09-05-2025 09:43 AM

Bruh, how are you guys paying almost 3k for a set of snows is beyond me.

Set of 18's:

General Artic Max shipped after rebates and taxes, $750
Steeliess from CL, $150 or buy some from junk yard off a OEM car.
Nuts, $50 or reuse the same ones...
Mount, $100 cash

FB is filled with used wheels that will mount snows just fine. They're gonna get trashed anyways and I bet used OEM takeoffs are way better quality than FAST wheels. This is for an 18 and look a bit trashed, but you get the idea.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9-0f7faa603fd5

RabidRat 09-05-2025 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9192086)
Is this a good price from PMCtire,

No!

Quote:

Originally Posted by red kryptonite (Post 9192046)
why not some snowdragons

:clap:

Gumby 09-05-2025 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by trollface (Post 9192090)
Bruh, how are you guys paying almost 3k for a set of snows is beyond me.

Set of 18's:

General Artic Max shipped after rebates and taxes, $750
Steeliess from CL, $150 or buy some from junk yard off a OEM car.
Nuts, $50 or reuse the same ones...
Mount, $100 cash

FB is filled with used wheels that will mount snows just fine. They're gonna get trashed anyways and I bet used OEM takeoffs are way better quality than FAST wheels. This is for an 18 and look a bit trashed, but you get the idea.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9-0f7faa603fd5

Thanks for the wakeup call... I'm not made of money so putting winter tires on rims is a stupid idea. Will get steelies instead.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RabidRat (Post 9192091)
No!

:clap:

Sorry I'm loyal to Michelin X-Ice :p

trollface 09-05-2025 09:57 AM

If your car comes with 19's, you can for sure run something smaller unless you're driving a GTR or something with huge brakes. It's pretty damn common to size down one size to say an 18.

That drives your cost down and opens up a lot of options. Do a little research, you can find wheels hella cheap.

Even if you go new, a brand spanking new steelie is like 100 bucks. Less than half of your fast wheels you're going to use for 3 months a year and will get eaten by salt.

I just hit my steelies with some black spray paint and count the 1k I saved.

Badhobz 09-05-2025 10:13 AM

Just get a new car. It’s cheaper

EvoFire 09-05-2025 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9192086)
Is this a good price from PMCtire, or should I wait?

Tire handling fees $26
20 chrome lugnuts $43.38
TPMS $197.96
Fast Wheels - EV01(+) - Grey - Titanium - 19" x 7.5", 40 Offset, 5x114.3 (Bolt Pattern), 67.1mm HUB $1,159.16
Michelin - X-Ice Snow - 235/55R19 XL 105H BSW $1,238.23
Subtotal $2,664.73 (includes 10% off)
Taxes $319.78
Total $2,984.51

Mount and balance included
Free shipping

Is this for a Tesla? There might be some one who can help you.

1200 for new Xice snow sounds like a no brainer. You can probably find cheaper used wheels.

trollface 09-05-2025 10:27 AM

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...type=top_picks

Just sayin.

Lotsa deals.

Gumby 09-05-2025 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 9192101)
Is this for a Tesla? There might be some one who can help you.

1200 for new Xice snow sounds like a no brainer. You can probably find cheaper used wheels.

No, I am anti-Tesla! :p

It's for a Ioniq 5.

supafamous 09-05-2025 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 9192094)
Thanks for the wakeup call... I'm not made of money so putting winter tires on rims is a stupid idea. Will get steelies instead.


Sorry I'm loyal to Michelin X-Ice :p

Ugh, steelies suck! I'd go down to a 18" and find something used on FB. If you go new for the wheels the Fast ones (like the one you picked) are good wheels - very light for one thing. I run the FC04 in bronze in the winter.

AstulzerRZD 09-05-2025 03:26 PM

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch...877136709.html

Man those Fast wheels are nice - flow formed!

But.. have you seen this used set that someone got from Costco?
Haggle them down $33 and the tires are "free" compared to your set.

Comparing the EU Tire labels:
- Pirelli has MUCH better wet grip: B rating vs D rating
- Pirelli is worse on ice, doesn't have the EU ice grip marker
- Pirelli is louder: 72db instead of 69

Quote:

Full winter tire & rim set with OEM TPMS for 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5.
Pirelli Scorpion Winter 235/55R19, paid $1499.96 + $180 taxes = $1680
C-Wheels Atlas Rims 19" black satin finish, paid $799.96 + $95.99 taxes = $896
Hyundai OEM TPMS bluetooth Q5H40AK000-I Current MSRP $163.70 (not aftermarket) = $183

Purchased in September 2023 from Costco. Used for barely 2 winter seasons of local driving only; not even a total of 6 months of use (December 2023 to mid-February 2024; December 2024 to mid-February 2025).
Lots of tread on all 4 tires. The set was in dry storage for the rest of the year. No rash - scratches - damage on rims.


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