Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8928913)

It did, but I mean, you're talking dedicated winter vs. UHP summer tire. I mean, they may as well have done racing slicks at that point. They're at polar opposites of the consumer tire spectrum (with polar results) and not representative of real-life decision-making as very very very few people who own cars that run UHP summer tires would ever even consider driving them in the snow and ice; those vehicles likely aren't even insured to drive in the winter.

Like you said, all-seasons would've been the better comparison, but no one seems to do those tests; it's always summers vs. winters.

I'd love a video that shows compares:
- expensive winters (e.g. Michelin X-Ice), cheap winters (no name/knock off Wal-Mart $40 specials), All-Weathers (e.g. Nokian WR), UHP all-seasons (e.g. Continental DWS), Performance all-seasons (e.g. Michelin Premier A/S), cheap all-seasons (Wal-Mart $40 specials)
- performance in a variety of conditions like: deep snow, light snow, compacted snow, wet snow, slush, ice (well below freezing and just above freezing), dry pavement at 4°C, wet pavement at 4°C, dry pavement at 10°C, wet pavement at 10°C, dry pavement at 18°C, wet pavement at 18°C

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8928908)

which 4x4 comes with factory summers?

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8928908)

which 4x4 comes with factory summers?

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8928913)

It did, but I mean, you're talking dedicated winter vs. UHP summer tire. I mean, they may as well have done racing slicks at that point. They're at polar opposites of the consumer tire spectrum (with polar results) and not representative of real-life decision-making as very very very few people who own cars that run UHP summer tires would ever even consider driving them in the snow and ice; those vehicles likely aren't even insured to drive in the winter.

Originally Posted by kiwee (Post 8929104)

I'm thinking of getting winter tire from Costco for the 2019 rdx. I've been lurking on this forum and it seems the Michelin xi2 isn't great (the only Michelin available on their website for the suv). Would the blizzak be better? (if they can order it)

Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8929005)

Not trying to be funny, but have you ever even been to Richmond??? The kind of decision making in winter time is nothing other than pure ignorance. Last year on the first snow day (I mean, not even enough to cover a gravel parking lot) I drove from the Tim Horton’s on Bridgeport to iona beach (maybe normally a 13 minute drive? And I saw 3 accidents and about a dozen cars just left on the side of the road abandoned

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8928913)

I'd love a video that shows compares:
- expensive winters (e.g. Michelin X-Ice), cheap winters (no name/knock off Wal-Mart $40 specials), All-Weathers (e.g. Nokian WR), UHP all-seasons (e.g. Continental DWS), Performance all-seasons (e.g. Michelin Premier A/S), cheap all-seasons (Wal-Mart $40 specials)
- performance in a variety of conditions like: deep snow, light snow, compacted snow, wet snow, slush, ice (well below freezing and just above freezing), dry pavement at 4°C, wet pavement at 4°C, dry pavement at 10°C, wet pavement at 10°C, dry pavement at 18°C, wet pavement at 18°C

Originally Posted by TOPEC (Post 8929171)

u can blame this on sales tactics as well. pretty much most car sales people will tell the potential buyer that the car has AWD and ull be good in the snow regardless if the car comes stock with all seasons or summers. my sales straight up told me if i choose the RWD version i'll need winter tires where as if i chose the AWD version its one thing i dont have to worry about :rukidding:

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8929172)

AWD = magical invincibility in the snow. Don't question it.

Jeez, don't you know that?

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8929216)

The manufacturers do this as well, look at the ads from Subaru. Raving about their stupid AWD system making you "safe" in the winter but they sell the cars with garbage tires. A friend bought one brand new a few years ago and ended up having an accident in the snow before the first oil change.

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8929149)

So I got a flat and destroyed one of my Nokian Hak R2. Better yet, it's not being manufactured anymore. Fantastic, as this means I need to get a pair or a set of new tires.:QQ:

From my researching, I decided to try some all-weather tires this time around. I prefer to have better rain stability over snow stability since I am afraid of the salt anyway. Got a set of new Michelin Crossclimate +. Will see how it goes.

And if anyone is looking for 3 Nokian Hak R2 in 225/45/R18 size, hit me up. Got them lying around now.

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8929149)

So I got a flat and destroyed one of my Nokian Hak R2. Better yet, it's not being manufactured anymore. Fantastic, as this means I need to get a pair or a set of new tires.:QQ:

From my researching, I decided to try some all-weather tires this time around. I prefer to have better rain stability over snow stability since I am afraid of the salt anyway. Got a set of new Michelin Crossclimate +. Will see how it goes.

And if anyone is looking for 3 Nokian Hak R2 in 225/45/R18 size, hit me up. Got them lying around now.

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8929321)

Have you tried a used tire store like Tire Exchange in Cobble Hill? They may have the same tire available (hopefully with similar tread remaining).

Originally Posted by UnknownJinX (Post 8929284)

So my question is, has anyone tried using an aftermarket TPMS solution? I know to check the tires once in a while, but sometimes I am in a hurry, etc. And may not pay attention. I'd like to avoid making another expensive mistake down the line.

Originally Posted by Hcoreposer (Post 8931852)

Has anyone tried MotorMaster's Winter Edge tire? The design is pretty much identical to Coopers Evolution Winter tire.

Just looking at tires to maybe change out to.

Other options would be : Hanook ipike rsv, General Tire Altimax Arctic Tire

The Artic tire seems to be a little more popular though?