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320icar 10-28-2019 10:38 PM

I’ve sold like 5 sets of wheels this year. I think I have to run the ko2’s this year. Anyone have experience with ko2’s in snow and ice?

From the Merritt rally it snowed on the coq. They did great in mud and snow, but there wasn’t any ice to try

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roastpuff 10-29-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 8964599)
I was gonna buy General Altimax .. should I not? I'm in for group buy, if it's cheaper than PMC Tires.

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Tires degrade as they age - nothing unusual. Altimax Arctics are a good winter tire - they are actually rebranded Gislaveds. Arctic 12 = Nordfrost 100s.
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8964564)
what's the speed limit on coq when it snows and what speed do people drive at?

big white in mid-feb on as3+ and carry chains just in case? (fwd)

will check traffic cam beforehand

had no problems with the twisties at baker 2 winters now

The Coq will have those LED speed signboards telling you what the speed limit currently is, though some portions do not - but drive prudently would be the best advice I would say. It does depend entirely on conditions as well, sometimes it would be fine, sometimes you're going to slide around on A/S tires. Chains... do practice using them if you haven't used them before. They can be tricky to mount, especially with gloves/stiff fingers. They suck.
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8964597)
Depends entirely on the conditions, I've been on there doing nearly the old speed limit one way in 2WD and doing about 40 on the way back in 4WD seeing loads of vehicles in the ditch.

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Originally Posted by BIC_BAWS (Post 8964566)
80km/hr iirc. But we went 60km/hr hazards on stayed right as much as we could w/o ending up in the bank.

Semi's will go at 90km/hr+ and others 70/80(?). When semi's go by, you won't have visibility for at least 10 seconds.

We didn't get stuck on General Altimax in an E46 325ci. Chains would have been nice and wipers that didn't freeze would have been great too.

I really hated semis on the Coq in the winter. They're nuts. I was going 80km/hr in the right lane, and felt like that was the max speed that I should be going (on Pilot Alpins at the time) and a semi blows by me like I'm standing still. Scary as f.

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8964600)
I’ve sold like 5 sets of wheels this year. I think I have to run the ko2’s this year. Anyone have experience with ko2’s in snow and ice?

From the Merritt rally it snowed on the coq. They did great in mud and snow, but there wasn’t any ice to try

They are not great on ice. They kinda suck on ice, actually. But that was on a full-size truck. Great in mud and snow as you've found.

underscore 10-29-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 320icar (Post 8964600)
I’ve sold like 5 sets of wheels this year. I think I have to run the ko2’s this year. Anyone have experience with ko2’s in snow and ice?

From the Merritt rally it snowed on the coq. They did great in mud and snow, but there wasn’t any ice to try

I run them year round on my Jeep, I've only lost traction once on really bad ice (still miles ahead of the garbage General Grabbers I had before) but that's on a 5000lb pig so I imagine your car will do much better. I ran a set of the original KO on my much lighter Cherokee down to nearly bald and they were still great.

ssjGoku69 10-29-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8964461)
if i were to do it again (not caring about warm dry performance as a year-rounder) i'd probably try all-weather like the michelin xclimate+


Has anyone have any experience on using these "all-season" tyres with the three-peak-mountain-snowflake for vancouver winters?

trollface 10-29-2019 01:33 PM

They're fine.

AstulzerRZD 10-29-2019 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ssjGoku69 (Post 8964663)
Has anyone have any experience on using these "all-season" tyres with the three-peak-mountain-snowflake for vancouver winters?

Running Nordman WRs on a FWD RAV4.
They're a bit loud but otherwise corner and brake fine in the wet, dry and snow.

I've had X-Ice 3s before and they also struggle in the deep slush and water over ice kinda surfaces.

Jas29 11-02-2019 05:28 PM

Got Michelin X-ice for my dads model 3 and nitto ridge grapplers for my truck should be okay in the little snow we get

fliptuner 11-02-2019 08:23 PM

Bought a set of OEM, hubcentric steelies for $10. Lol
Some light surface rust on the faces, where the hubcap windows were but beads are nice and clean. Nothing a wire wheel and satin black can't fix.

I have all weathers on my stock wheels but since I also have dedicated snows, why not have them ready. I mean they take the same amount of space anyways. 15 minutes to swap them out if the shit comes down enough.

Edison_Chen 11-03-2019 12:20 AM

What do you guys think of the Michelin Crossclimate all weather tires for local city driving, primarily in Richmond? I’m looking to replace her oem all season tires that came with the car in 2013. Costco has the tires around $145 or something for each one.

My wife’s oem Firestone all season tires are 6.5 years old and only has 37,000 km’s. The snow grip/handling is awful. I think the rubber is degrading on them.

Edit: Her car is a 2003 Toyota Corolla CE (15 inch hubcaps).

fliptuner 11-03-2019 12:38 AM

Crossclimate's have really good reviews. I read they've been used, successfully in Europe, for years.

BIC_BAWS 11-03-2019 12:41 AM

Sizing is limited, doesn't come in 215/45/17 (at Costco) which is a 2012-2015 Civic sizing

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fliptuner 11-03-2019 12:42 AM

Won't 16's clear the brakes, with 205/55/16's?

fliptuner 11-05-2019 08:07 PM

Finished cleaning up the cheap steelies I picked up and mounted tires on them. While I was at it, swapped my GF's rims. She sold her Outlander and got a CR-V but the Mits used shank style lugnuts and I wasn't about to go lug centric on the new car, with the hub bore being too small.


xxxrsxxx 11-06-2019 12:16 PM

I had winters on my BMW with PCD 5x120, however I no longer have the BMW. Does anyone know if it would fit on a Lexus with PCD 5x114.3?

320icar 11-06-2019 12:54 PM

Kind of answered your own question there

dared3vil0 11-06-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx (Post 8965425)
I had winters on my BMW with PCD 5x120, however I no longer have the BMW. Does anyone know if it would fit on a Lexus with PCD 5x114.3?

Good question, but while we're at it, I just broke my 10mm wrench, do you think the 9mm will work on the nuts? :rukidding:

BIC_BAWS 11-06-2019 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx (Post 8965425)
I had winters on my BMW with PCD 5x120, however I no longer have the BMW. Does anyone know if it would fit on a Lexus with PCD 5x114.3?

if you throw on adapters, yeah. But adapters are 20-30mm, so that would reduce your offset or push the wheel out by that much.

ie. If the BMW wheels were 18x8.5 +45, putting it on the lexus would make it to 18x8.5 +25 or 18x8.5 +15.

This would not likely fit your lexus, unless the lexus can run very low offsets.

trollface 11-06-2019 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxrsxxx (Post 8965425)
I had winters on my BMW with PCD 5x120, however I no longer have the BMW. Does anyone know if it would fit on a Lexus with PCD 5x114.3?

Yes, just buy a drill at homedepot and widen the holes.

fliptuner 11-06-2019 07:45 PM

I love it when people post "universal" rims for sale. Bonus when they call them universal, followed by, "they don't fit my Mazda 3" :lawl:

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds...010699873.html

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds...984344828.html

supafamous 11-09-2019 05:16 PM

My winter wheels/tires came in early to 1010 Tires so I got them put on this weekend. I don't drive a lot so I don't mind having them on early and my stock Eagle RS-A tires are hot garbage.

Went with Fast FC04 wheels (19x8x5) and Continental WinterContact TS850 P - surprised how round the sidewalls are for what is their premium car performance tire. Steering response is good though - much better than the mush on a Blizzak. Wheel and tire combo are 15-17lbs lighter than my stock A-Spec wheels.

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trollface 11-10-2019 04:46 AM

19in winter tires....

68style 11-10-2019 05:19 AM

After driving my dad's stock Highlander around on the factory all seasons in all kinds of snow conditions in the lower mainland I cannot imagine why any somewhat proper SUV needs snow tires locally.

trollface 11-10-2019 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 8965832)

Went with Fast FC04 wheels (19x8x5) and Continental WinterContact TS850 P - surprised how round the sidewalls are for what is their premium car performance tire.

What does this mean? What is a prem car performance winter tire? Were you expecting a low profile winter tire? If you run a wider wheel it would not be so round. 8in wheel should get a 225/xx

supafamous 11-10-2019 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by trollface (Post 8965861)
What does this mean? What is a prem car performance winter tire? Were you expecting a low profile winter tire? If you run a wider wheel it would not be so round. 8in wheel should get a 225/xx

Continental markets the tire as being for mid sized luxury cars and SUV - it's not quite in the class of the Pilot Alpin or Sottozeros for performance and not in the snow chomping class of Blizzaks and X-Ice. From what I can tell on their grid of products it's kinda between a Pilot Alpin and Latitude Alpin.

For that kind of tire I'm surprised how narrow the tread and how round the sidewall shape actually is in practice - it's rounder than the Blizzaks and X-Ices that I've used. It doesn't seem to affect performance as the steering response is WAY better than on my Blizzaks (WS80), just an appearance preference.

FN-2199 11-10-2019 08:01 AM

I picked up a set of Continental Wintercontact Si for real cheap... pretty disappointed with them so far, but that's comparing to the Altimax Arctics. Traction in snow isn't nearly as grippy as the Arctics but I believe this is to be expected, as the Arctics are a true deep snow warrior.
Nothing beats that Gislaved Nordfrost pattern...


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