Yeah should see more units.

Will be balancing act between heavy incentives in the US to keep market share
and sending some units to Canada to sell at a lower price to meet local incomes.

Probably won't see more Toyota hybrids but will see a lot more EVs.

I don't know why I don't feel any sympathy for these "young adults", the parents definitely failed them and are partially responsible for this

I see where you're coming from regarding parental influence and fast cars, but accidents like these are still sad. Everyone involved paid a price in this incident...

As more young kids learning and driving these quick cars, its easier than ever to be able to lock the car out or detune the power. Its a computer on wheels after all. Make a "newbie" mode that limits power, speed, and acceleration to that of a 1990 Honda civic. lol.

not the truck. it looks better after the accident. :pokerface:

I'm of two minds...

In one hand, who hasn't done some incredibly stupid stuff when we were young, with a freshly minted set of keys, feeling invincible in our youth? I've certainly done some dumb things that did looking back could've turned out quite poorly.

On the other hand. These cars these days have so so so much more safety built in that it makes the bar of stupidity to get yourself into such situations so much higher that it makes one question...

Wow, winter really hits hard.

Did 1000km in EV6 RWD at 0C this weekend.

GF loved getting into a car that's already warm in the morning but running heat even when u warm the car up on the house's power cuts range about 10-15%.

Fast charge times on EV6 doubled from 20 minutes to 35ish for 400km and that's with 10 minutes of pre-conditioning. 30 minutes supposedly gets you full charge speed but burns 5% battery.

I did it cuz I'm cheap lol, $9 to go 1000km.

https://i.imgur.com/EnezoJp.jpeg

Doing some math...

500 km stated range, 450 when cold, 400 on winter tires, and 350 if you add snow / heavy rain adding resistance?
Charge times are from 10-80% or 70% of battery...

So winter range is 245km or 3 hours of driving for every 35-40 minutes of charging.
Summer is 350km or 4 hours of driving for every 20 minutes of charging.

This Toyota Crown crossover is pretty nice. Didnt even know they existed.
https://www.facebook.com/share/15gFD...ibextid=79PoIi

^ Saw one yesterday in the dark, thought it was a Lincoln from far away, turns out it was the Crown SUV thing. I think it looks good, the length of the car gives it a bit more presence.

Too bad it's just got a bullshit RAV-4 2.5L Hybrid at 4200 frickin pounds

Same same

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fcm4wGIaUAEKaTX.jpg:large

It’s a good look.

Even if EV is more expensive, every time the engine wakes up in a hybrid I wonder why tf I am in one

GF goes "r we being safe with our bodies" every time the gritty 2.5 in Toyota hybrid roars on the highway like bruh

the Crown Signia Sport has the Prime's 300hp thing - same band saw sounding ass 2.5 if you get on the throttle though

Why do Toyota 4 cylinders sound like ass? It's just very very loud and gritty unlike Honda.

I think Honda takes the engineering of their engines much more seriously than most automakers - among commodity brands it's #1 by miles. The other commodity brands come nowhere close in refinement. Only BMW, Ferrari, and Porsche seem to take their engines as seriously.

That said, Honda has pretty much stopped investing in ICE engines now - it's just milking the K and J motors along till EVs take over (the J turns 30 in 2026 and is still relatively competitive!)

Honestly we will never know - it’s a complicated relationship between engine harmonics, mounting/body structure, torque converter lockup, etc etc.

I don’t think it’s fair to Toyota to say they DGAF - they spent a ton of effort on getting thermal efficiency above 40%

That vehicle is not on the Toyota Canada website though.

And given that the only one available right now is also starting at $61k before fees and taxes it's totally not worth it.

Yeah, the Crown Signia Sport role is filled by the NX in North America.
Outside of the North East, there isn’t much of a buyer for ‘understated luxury’.

I guess it's about knowing your customer, following the money, and making design tradeoffs accordingly.

If they could've increase efficiency and reliability 2% by ripping out the balance shafts I'm sure they would've :D.

I'm on the Toyota forums lately and I'm noticing a huge community built around appliance worship. These people don't give a damn about the motorboat noises coming from under the hood, the understeering torque-steering front-biased on-demand AWD, nor the brittle plastic interiors from the 1990's, so long as they get their mpg's and their 300,000 miles of bulletproof reliability lol.

I think they were onto something with the brand splitting into Scion, but it seems like they didn't execute on that very well.

I'm in the market for a Crown in the coming years, but unsure if we want the regular version or the Crown Signia. I haven't explored the NX as I wasn't ware it covered the Sport variant, but willing to wait. The Crown itself is on the top of my list, then the Crown Signia.

Re: Toyota 4 cylinders sounding like ass - I think RabidRat summed it up nicely. For this market segment, an ass-sounding engine is probably not a priority, whereas reliability is. If I wanted a car that was quiet or had a nice sounding engine, I would look elsewhere. We took the Crown out for a test drive and it was pretty quiet so I couldn't hear the engine.

I recently drove a current gen Prius (AWD), and the whole car -- engine, suspension and all -- actually seem very decent. The engine didn't feel anything like the sorry excuse that was found in earlier generations of Prius-es. It wasn't sporty or even as willing to rev like a pedestrian K20, but it was responsive enough, and felt smooth and solid when you ask it to work. And the ICE + electric power integration was really smooth / seamless.

Low key in the states, Toyota’s quickly gone from early adopter/open minded upper middle class buyer to Republican lower class car for immigrants and nearly retiring folk.

Especially with BMW and MB lease deals getting so cheap, you have to be very conservative/risk averse to buy Toyota.

For a sportier upscale plugin hybrid, I think the NX450h+ sport handling is supposed to cover the Crown Sport SUV segment

Pics of the new Jaguar leaked before today's reveal. I kind of like it. Would look sick in black with gold rims.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...reveal-tonight

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=GK2pSeUD

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=Ogj8qVFA

https://www.autocar.co.uk/sites/auto...?itok=_0NSOItb

That looks like a hot wheels car I would have drawn when I was 5