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I think it usually is farmed out, at least the speakers I've pulled out of vehicles usually had another brands markings on it too. It's just a matter of whether they pick low grade stuff, decent stuff but don't use it as a marketing point, a well-known but ultimately overhyped for what it is brand like Bose or JBL and try to market it, or something really high end most people have never heard of and very few would actually appreciate.
Since in a car there's always outside noise and my hearing is half fucked now anyways I'm usually happy with either of the middle two options. The JBL system in our Rav4 and the Bose system in my parents old G35 sounded pretty good, but so did the unmarked systems in my Celica and Prelude. I just can't handle complete trash like what Jeep uses.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer G37 has a Bose system, sounds pretty good
I was just using Bose as an example though, like contract out the system to an actual audio company as opposed to using proprietary hardware from your own brand | Fair point. But overall my experience with branded audio has mostly been a big fat meh with Bose being one of the worst. The only time I've ever thought wow this is good was the Bowers in the X5, and it's a $6000 standalone option.
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Originally Posted by underscore I think it usually is farmed out, at least the speakers I've pulled out of vehicles usually had another brands markings on it too. It's just a matter of whether they pick low grade stuff, decent stuff but don't use it as a marketing point, a well-known but ultimately overhyped for what it is brand like Bose or JBL and try to market it, or something really high end most people have never heard of and very few would actually appreciate.
Since in a car there's always outside noise and my hearing is half fucked now anyways I'm usually happy with either of the middle two options. The JBL system in our Rav4 and the Bose system in my parents old G35 sounded pretty good, but so did the unmarked systems in my Celica and Prelude. I just can't handle complete trash like what Jeep uses. | Most brands have a "ready made" system ready to put in, so standard amp, head, and speaker set. They get custom brackets for each model and the same pieces get put into each car. The rear passenger speaker blew in my dad's Genesis Coupe. I ordered a new speaker on ebay for $100 and it fits all that generation of Genesis cars and Sonata as well.
From reading about R&D posts, BMW USED to have HK do actual R&D in their cars and customize the speaker sets, but that was the E chassis era. HK became a standardized set in the F chassis cars and honestly the HK set in my M3 is also a big fat meh. The bass is muddy, the high non-existent, but yes it is better than the base audio system.
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Toyota uses JBL. Lexus Uses mark levinson a company that makes home speakers. Cadillac use AKG a headphone company. All 3 brands are owned by Harmon International who is owned by Samsung. They have one division that does all there OEM Automotive stuff. The names are just used as a way for car manufactures to differentiate product lines. JBL makes great aftermarket car audio speakers but those speakers are not used for JBL OEM. The name does not really matter.
The head Harmon's OEM division is a Car Audio Champion so you would think the OEM stuff would sound great but it doesn't. https://news.harman.com/blog/car-aud...-natan-budiono
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Audi uses Bang & Olufsen ... decent.
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#6505 | | To me, there is the Internet and there is RS
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Originally Posted by whitev70r Audi uses Bang & Olufsen ... decent. | That's also Harman International. The bought out B and O's automotive division in 2015.
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Gosh... all this car audio talk is making me miss the days when I still had the time and patience to remove door cards and yank out head units to fiddle with car audio...
The factory system in the Mazda2 is absolute dog shxt -- everything is murky and muddy. Replacing the speakers alone is apparently useless bcos primary problem is the HU, although the speakers are also bottom of the barrel stuff too.
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Do people even meddle with car audio anymore? Whatever happened to the good ol' days with SQL and SPL competitions? 
Weird fact: I think the audio setup in my R53 Mini is worth three times more than the car itself. 
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#6508 | | Rs has made me the man i am today!
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Originally Posted by bcrdukes Do people even meddle with car audio anymore? Whatever happened to the good ol' days with SQL and SPL competitions?
Weird fact: I think the audio setup in my R53 Mini is worth three times more than the car itself. | Yes SQL and SPL is still very much alive! Orgasm donor is still donating!
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#6509 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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How do you even do audio anymore, all the screens are integrated into everything, maps, climate control. Can you even just change speakers anymore cuz the 15 speaker system probably uses a weird ohm and size and it's all tied into the factory amp.
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#6510 | | HELP ME PLS!!!
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You can run a box in the middle containing an Android SOC that basically takes the stock signal (audio and video) and passes it through to the video screen, but you can inject audio/video as desired. Will retain climate, maps, etc everything.
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