Electric and Hybrid Car Thread

[AstulzerRZD]

Don't know if there's a hard and fast rule.

I think if someone asked me for a call and schedules were tight, I'd ask if the car were ok.
If I'm requesting the call, I'd probably take in in the office/at home.

Feels like half of Microsoft made Optimism Brewing Co / Metier Cycling their office, so I don't think it's that serious.
My mid-30s bosses take all their 1:1s in the car.

[EvoFire]

This is just an evolution of the office suites that came in yesteryears. The car phone in MB, the office integration pro package in BMW after BT became a thing. With self driving becoming more prevalent, I can see how executives would like an option to deal with work things while driving in the name of efficiency.

[Harvey Specter]

Originally Posted by EvoSpider

BMW iX3

https://www.bmw.ca/en/all-models/x-s...3/bmw-ix3.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCy00UCp3Y

I actually like the exterior, but the interior is god awful. In fact the new X3’s interior was so bad that BMW did a mid cycle refresh just a few months after launch to address all the cheap plastic. And the lack of the iDrive knob is a massive fail.

[EvoFire]

The X1 doesn't have a iDrive knob, it's ok after having it for a few days but the knob was definitely better. With some of the manufacturers learning things "the hard way" and started putting buttons back in, I'm surprised BMW still went all in with screens.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

CLA EV and E/S class have this.

If you use it while the hands and eyes free Drive Pilot is active on S class, you can see the presentation content & browse the web.

Where is the camera located?

Teams built into the car is wild, but I suppose the angle of the camera is better than the double chin boomer look some guys get when they take a Teams call with the damn phone on their lap/steering wheel

[RabidRat]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

The X1 doesn't have a iDrive knob, it's ok after having it for a few days but the knob was definitely better. With some of the manufacturers learning things "the hard way" and started putting buttons back in, I'm surprised BMW still went all in with screens.

CarPlay is absolutely better with iDrive. We have cars with and without.

It's not just the iDrive dial. It's the fact that there are dedicated, hardware buttons laid out surrounding the dial, which your fingers & thumb naturally rest on.

[MEDIA] | [MAIN MENU] | [NAVIGATION]

[BACK] | iDRIVE DIAL |

That means you can context-switch very fluidly between music/audiobook/phonecall, and your navigation.

I modified our i3 so that the screen is also touch-enabled.

Having both is absolutely the ultimate solution.

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Where is the camera located?

Teams built into the car is wild, but I suppose the angle of the camera is better than the double chin boomer look some guys get when they take a Teams call with the damn phone on their lap/steering wheel

It’s the same as E class, it’s where the sport chrono would be on a Porsche.

Honestly the big change is when you are parked, it shows the meeting content (slideshows) on the big screen.

[radeonboy]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Where is the camera located?

Teams built into the car is wild, but I suppose the angle of the camera is better than the double chin boomer look some guys get when they take a Teams call with the damn phone on their lap/steering wheel

In the CLA's case, it's above the center infotainment screen. I think you can use it for selfies as well

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

How do you even do audio anymore, all the screens are integrated into everything, maps, climate control. Can you even just change speakers anymore cuz the 15 speaker system probably uses a weird ohm and size and it's all tied into the factory amp.

There's now packages that add plug and play DSP, speakers, sub to the standard systems:

- Subaru/toyota: OEM Audio Plus or the Crux amp (180W RMS)
- BMW: BavSound / Match
- Tesla: Alpine

I still think upgraded Camry JBL, C-Class Burmester, G05 X5 H/K system really suck.
The rear speakers on the Mustang were basically useless with the top down; no audio gets back there.

I don't think the market agrees with me because even my friends who love EDM seem content with their Mazda Bose system or shitty Toyota system.

[AstulzerRZD]

Off topic: if anyone has amp and 'sound deadening' suggestions for S2000 I'd like to hear em.

- AP1v2 setup with 4 speakers.
- Running Sony DSX-GS80 (200w RMS, Class D) with 3x 5V pre-outs.
- Polk DB6502.
- Cerwin Vega VR10 underseat sub.

[JDMDreams]

Isn't it a lot of work, rip out interior then sound deaden, not much you can do since soft top

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

There's now packages that add plug and play DSP, speakers, sub to the standard systems:

- Subaru/toyota: OEM Audio Plus or the Crux amp (180W RMS)
- BMW: BavSound / Match
- Tesla: Alpine

I still think upgraded Camry JBL, C-Class Burmester, G05 X5 H/K system really suck.
The rear speakers on the Mustang were basically useless with the top down; no audio gets back there.

I don't think the market agrees with me because even my friends who love EDM seem content with their Mazda Bose system or shitty Toyota system.

Match is so fucking expensive. I looked into upgrading audio for the M3, I'd be spending close to 10k because the match DSP and amp that works for the HK system is a few grand.

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

Off topic: if anyone has amp and 'sound deadening' suggestions for S2000 I'd like to hear em.

- AP1v2 setup with 4 speakers.
- Running Sony DSX-GS80 (200w RMS, Class D) with 3x 5V pre-outs.
- Polk DB6502.
- Cerwin Vega VR10 underseat sub.

You are ruining the car

[EvoFire]

Originally Posted by RabidRat

CarPlay is absolutely better with iDrive. We have cars with and without.

It's not just the iDrive dial. It's the fact that there are dedicated, hardware buttons laid out surrounding the dial, which your fingers & thumb naturally rest on.

[MEDIA] | [MAIN MENU] | [NAVIGATION]

[BACK] | iDRIVE DIAL |

That means you can context-switch very fluidly between music/audiobook/phonecall, and your navigation.

I modified our i3 so that the screen is also touch-enabled.

Having both is absolutely the ultimate solution.

I agree, but you can't retrofit it. iDrive 9 is also Android instead of I think what used to be Linux/Unix. Android is NOT better and way laggier.

[red kryptonite]

im lowkey ok with bmw making all these ugly as cars/suvs... keeps my dumbass from wanting to upgrade.

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by JDMDreams

Isn't it a lot of work, rip out interior then sound deaden, not much you can do since soft top

I mean just whatever the door skins need to make the mid bass a little bit more effective, instead of getting absorbed by the door itself

[RabidRat]

Originally Posted by red kryptonite

im lowkey ok with bmw making all these ugly as cars/suvs... keeps my dumbass from wanting to upgrade.

Lol yeah you'd think the longer you wait, the better stuff becomes, but we're in this bizzaro world where things only get worse.

[AstulzerRZD]

Originally Posted by EvoFire

Match is so fucking expensive. I looked into upgrading audio for the M3, I'd be spending close to 10k because the match DSP and amp that works for the HK system is a few grand.



You are ruining the car

With G05 X5 is the mid bass distortion I heard because of weak speakers or Wes amp?

[68style]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

I still think upgraded Camry JBL, C-Class Burmester, G05 X5 H/K system really suck.
The rear speakers on the Mustang were basically useless with the top down; no audio gets back there.

I don't think the market agrees with me because even my friends who love EDM seem content with their Mazda Bose system or shitty Toyota system.

What makes you think the Burm sucks on the C-Class? I love the one in the C43, everything sounds awesome on it and the bass thumps hard...not Bose muddy buzzy hard but solid you could probably rattle windows hard if you turn it up all the way. People comment quite often how good it sounds just riding in my car.

I'm not exactly a audio snob, but I'm not estranged from audiophile stuff either, I run a amped Sennheiser HD800S setup for headphones.

[Badhobz]

Everything sucks ! Real geezers listen to AM radio

[AstulzerRZD]

Yours is W205 right? Do you know if your burmester system is stock or if something's been done to it?

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On my cousin's C43, from what I remember...

- 4" mid-range
>> where is the mid bass? can't hear bass guitar riffs or kick drums

- 6? 6.5?" footwell woofer
>> where is the low bass? bass drops don't sound good to me

it also feels shouty when you turn it up because there's a lot of mid/highs without mid and low bass to smoothen it out.

we just threw the match kit at it which made the footwell woofers bigger too

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FWIW, I hate the way F series BMW drive but their Harmon Kardon is quite good compared to G20 and W205- 7 band EQ, 8" subs for low-ish bass.
We didn't touch the setup in the F80 he later got.

My best guess is manufacturers figured out after the W204/F30 that consumers just want a brand and shiny speaker grille.
They could reuse the same speakers with some tuning instead of giving an actual audio upgrade.
W205 Burmester was only a ~1k upgrade from the base audio on C class.

[noclue]

Originally Posted by EvoSpider

BMW iX3

https://www.bmw.ca/en/all-models/x-s...3/bmw-ix3.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJCy00UCp3Y

What a beautiful evolution of pig nose design, with E30 vibes.
400miles EPA range!

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by AstulzerRZD

Off topic: if anyone has amp and 'sound deadening' suggestions for S2000 I'd like to hear em.

- AP1v2 setup with 4 speakers.
- Running Sony DSX-GS80 (200w RMS, Class D) with 3x 5V pre-outs.
- Polk DB6502.
- Cerwin Vega VR10 underseat sub.

Check out Resonix up in Stony Point (https://resonixsoundsolutions.com/?s...1plmUIyUVXP6GK) - they've done a lot of testing to show the impact of their kits including on 911s and generally seem to have the best stuff out there.

I've added sound deadening to 3 cars, my NC (trunk), my TSX (doors and trunk), and my RDX (entire interior). Results varied with the TSX having the most impact. Doors are easy - you can do them in 1-3 hours depending on how detailed you are and how many layers you're applying (deadener, decoupler, and barrier)

The doors on a S2000 are probably as hollow as on a TSX so I'd guess you'd have some good results if you do them - the TSX sound system sucks but I was able to turn down the volume as a result and still hear music better (clearer and louder).

[AstulzerRZD]

Yeah just need enough to make the speakers a little bit more effective.

Does anyone here have the roll hoop speakers?

[radeonboy]

Spotted this Zeekr 007GT and thought it looked beautiful with great proportions and stance. It looks much better than any of the BBA's recent launches, and is different enough to not be a knockoff of a Taycan Sport Turismo IMO.

It's kinda crazy that the Chinese (luxury) brands are the ones churning out tasteful designs while the Germans seem to be having amnesia in this moment. Please Geely, brand this as a Polestar so we can get one in Canada




Meanwhile, Mercedes has this to show for the same price

[Badhobz]

absolutely. id buy a China EV or that China van that has the swivel seat and super baller interior over any of this german trash.

China's got their EV's down. im riding that Segway C80 scooter to the gym every day and its been flawless. Not a single hiccup.