The EV charger is kinda interesting at $50000 especially if you can get a cheap rate too, but it's huge

New brokie y

https://insideevs.com/news/774980/20...affordable-ev/

I love how they still have a glass roof but to cheapen it they cover it with fabric so you can't see out of it.

I'm curious as to what Tesla's actual product strategy is - while they did two pretty big refreshes to the Y and 3 it sure seems like they aren't doing anything with modernising their lineup and other than being better at charging they are losing every other advantage.

FSD is still the only product that tries to do self driving in the city.
Their software integration with their chargers & route planning is still by FAR the easiest.

Even though their charging speed, etc all blows, it's an easy recommendation the way an iphone is.

iPhone is shit and ain't that thin, my FOLDING PHONE is thinner and suckers still buy :accepted:

Every foldable OLED will fail, it's close to 80% failure rate with microcracks, dead pixels, etc.

:fuckthatshit: I'm sure da Chinese, cuz who else will figure it out. Everyone gets a new phone every 2-3 years anyways.

I get it, charging speed is slow, etc with the current Teslas. But for 80% of people, it really doesn't matter too much. We make do with a 110V 10amp charger and a 24kwh battery. There are days where that's not enough but if we had a proper EV that has a 75kwh battery, we can make do without a lvl2.

Regular people charge at home anyways on 110v, only brokies go public charging :troll:

Are we both talking about fast charging?
Tesla is fine in Van cuz distances are short, highway driving is limited, weather is mild, etc

My exp is Ioniq fast charge drops from 180kw average to 100kw once it drops to 10C outside.
Add uphill driving, highway speed from SF to Tahoe and you really need the watts.

I'm talking about all charging scenarios.

100kw/h is still a decent speed for most intents and purposes, you can get more than enough charge if you sat down to eat a meal, maybe not if you just went for a washroom break. I agree sitting in the car for 30minutes though waiting for it to charge seems really dumb. I've seen people sitting in their Teslas at Richmond Center just waiting. I can't imagine doing something like that. But sitting and waiting for 20 mins and 30 mins, the difference seems a little trivial.

Yeah it's a total non issue in Vancouver.
I like having way faster charging than I need so I'm comfortable even with it's non ideal.

For example...

It's a little cold outside, there's a headwind, and you're driving uphill at highway speeds to Whistler/Tahoe?
You need more juice but you're getting 40kwh even with en-route conditioning.

There's a great food/rest/charging stop but you're at 60% battery?
You're getting 50kWh on Model Y, or 130kWh on Ioniq 5.

Yeah, but plugging shit in is so gay. i dont wanna plug shit in every day. I barely plug in my chingchong e scooter, and even then i loathe the experience.

some marketplace buyer was arguing with me about how only TEsla has 1000V chargers coming

literally no. no because everyone else is already 1000V. here's who everyone uses

- Petro Canada 200kW: https://www.chargepoint.com/en-ca/bu...ess-plus/specs
- BC Hydro EV 180: https://e-mobility.abb.com/en/products/all-one/t184
- Electrify Canada/BC Hydro 350: https://new.abb.com/ev-charging/high-power-charging
- On the Run 400kw: https://e-mobility.abb.com/en/products/all-one/a400

Why are you arguing on FB? Oh wait you are here on RS, continue on :lol

we're all curmudgeons!

Doesn't beetle evs have that wireless charging pad that you just drive over? Plugging in yourself is for brokies:troll:

LOL I should install one at work,

I got 575 100A at 2 locations

bro how do i tell if a volvo came with the integrated boosters like ur s90

adaptive cruise, climate package, blis, etc all have instant tells

the boosters tho?

Look for pull tabs/cutouts in the rear seatback?

s90 has it on both seats

xc90 only in the middle

you will see a little handle at the lip of the seat cushion

I just serviced and filled up my M4 for hibernation. What a pain in the ass compared to EV. Plug it in once a week for me 240V way more convenient

but you missed out on the weirdo gas station conversations. ive had so many memoriable gas station stories with my maserati and my ratrolla.

the fuck kinda story will i have when i plug in a bitch ass ev?

You can go to a tesla supercharger and spend 20min raving about elon musk, space x, full self driving, with hehe

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