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06-29-2017, 11:52 AM
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#451 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Get rid of Crusty and I can guarantee the Libs will be back in power.
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06-29-2017, 11:55 AM
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#452 | | reads most threads with his pants around his ankles, especially in the Forced Induction forum.
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Originally Posted by vitaminG  i suspect we will be having another election. i wonder if the liberals will be punished for this or people will be scared and go with the stable choice.
if the liberals manage to get a majority id have to wonder if theyll be trying to replace clark before the next election. theres no way theyll have a leadership contest if theres a minority/coalition since an election could happen at any time | Could be what happens with the Cons when harper was in charge. People were piss with the minority gov and gov him in with majority.
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06-29-2017, 07:52 PM
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#453 | | I contribute to threads in the offtopic forum
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Well its done now. I guess we'll be finding out soon if there's going to be a summer election or a greendp government
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06-29-2017, 07:53 PM
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#454 | | In RS I Trust
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we are straight up fucked if there isn't another election
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06-29-2017, 07:55 PM
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Well this should be interesting..NDP in power..im scared
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06-29-2017, 07:55 PM
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06-29-2017, 07:57 PM
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#457 | | NOOB, Not Quite a Regular!
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Interesting times to be living in BC...
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06-29-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Acura604 | Question is -- for how long?
With the government as fragile as it is, the 2 most likely outcome from any policy proposal that might actually do something useful is:
1) either it gets stalled due to a tie, and then the Speaker steps in, and more bitching ensues regardless of how the outcome turns out
2) the entire province is always on edge at the threat of another election, and the uncertainty kills any sort of progress in every imaginable sector
So the way I see it is, however things turn out, we as residents in the province are still fxxked.  | 
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06-29-2017, 08:21 PM
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NDP is bad enough, wonder how much horgan is going to let Weaver push him around.
see if this holds up, cause i doubt either of them will get another chance for a while if they cant make it work.
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06-29-2017, 08:30 PM
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#460 | | Where's my RS Christmas Lobster?!
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Interesting times for sure. But there's a lot at stake here for the NDP and the Greens to keep their partnership going.
The NDP needs to show the public that it can in fact run this province.
The Greens need to show that they are more than just a fringe party.
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06-29-2017, 09:23 PM
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At least we know if ndp fucks up, early election.. it's gonna be a liberal majority
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06-29-2017, 09:45 PM
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#462 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by Rallydrv At least we know if ndp fucks up, early election.. it's gonna be a liberal majority | Yup
If Clark had triggered an election, voters would have punished the Liberals big time. Now all of the blame for an early election will be dumped squarely on the NDP-Green.
Most of the stuff they are talking about implementing will get eyebrows raised, but it won't necessarily impact enough people hard enough in the short term to elicit a public reaction.
There is an exception though... My early prediction is that they attempt to tackle housing speculation this summer, and they get carried away. With so many jobs attached to it, and people invested, and a huge amount of BC GDP tied to this industry, there will be some major public backlash. Weaver and Horgan will turn on each-other shortly after that, trying to pass the blame. One of the Green party members will go rouge in response, and tank the alliance.
An early election, angry voters, massive deficit, amidst a potentially failing economy... Liberals will walk back in with a majority by this time next year. Sadly it will take them an entire term to get the mess the NDP-Green will make in that short period of time.
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06-29-2017, 10:05 PM
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#463 | | I Will not Admit my Addiction to RS
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She did ask for a dissolution. But Lt.gov. Asked ndp to govern.
Cc sour loser.
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06-29-2017, 10:09 PM
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#464 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Lol @ Crusty did ask Lt Gov for dissolution and another election after explicitly saying yesterday she wasn't gonna do it.
Lying sack of shit til the end.
Hopefully the Liberals can now get their shit together and bring in a new leader that isn't a lying bag of shit that will just about do a 180 for the sake of staying in power.
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06-29-2017, 10:36 PM
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#465 | | Wunder? Wonder?? Wander???
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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi Lol @ Crusty did ask Lt Gov for dissolution and another election after explicitly saying yesterday she wasn't gonna do it.
Lying sack of shit til the end.
Hopefully the Liberals can now get their shit together and bring in a new leader that isn't a lying bag of shit that will just about do a 180 for the sake of staying in power. | I was a bit shocked by the fact that she went on camera and stated that. Pretty disingenuous if you ask me, especially after very clearly stating that she wasn't going to ask for that.
The Liberals need to use this downtime to get a new leader in place
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06-29-2017, 10:38 PM
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#466 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak Yup
If Clark had triggered an election, voters would have punished the Liberals big time. Now all of the blame for an early election will be dumped squarely on the NDP-Green.
Most of the stuff they are talking about implementing will get eyebrows raised, but it won't necessarily impact enough people hard enough in the short term to elicit a public reaction.
There is an exception though... My early prediction is that they attempt to tackle housing speculation this summer, and they get carried away. With so many jobs attached to it, and people invested, and a huge amount of BC GDP tied to this industry, there will be some major public backlash. Weaver and Horgan will turn on each-other shortly after that, trying to pass the blame. One of the Green party members will go rouge in response, and tank the alliance.
An early election, angry voters, massive deficit, amidst a potentially failing economy... Liberals will walk back in with a majority by this time next year. Sadly it will take them an entire term to get the mess the NDP-Green will make in that short period of time. | Yeah ... about that ... it never should've gotten to where it is in the first place.
Anyways, based on the NDP-Green agreement, who knows. My opinion is there's not a lot that's going to be done for several reasons.
This is the only text in the NDP-Green agreement that references housing: Quote: |
Make housing more affordable by increasing supply of affordable housing and take action to deal with the speculation and fraud that is driving up prices.
| In the NDP platform, they outline a "10-year action plan" whereby they would fund 114,000 affordable homes over 10 years by implementing a 2% absentee speculator's tax, closing loopholes that allow certain individuals to avoid paying taxes, and create a task force to address fraud and money laundering.
Now, when you take a look at the Green platform, it's extremely different.
The vague text outlined in the NDP-Green agreement sounds a whole lot like the NDP platform and nothing like the Green platform. And to me, that sounds like it's going to be pretty close to status quo.
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06-29-2017, 10:41 PM
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#467 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak I was a bit shocked by the fact that she went on camera and stated that. Pretty disingenuous if you ask me, especially after very clearly stating that she wasn't going to ask for that.
The Liberals need to use this downtime to get a new leader in place | I was literally not shocked at all especially after her behaviour the past month, but even if I hadn't read anything or seen anything this month, it still wouldn't have surprised me. It's been obvious for the better part of this decade.
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06-29-2017, 11:31 PM
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After the fact but here's the election map 
Divided indeed
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06-29-2017, 11:59 PM
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^^ Casually looking at the election map does not paint an accurate picture of how the election results were though.
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06-30-2017, 12:00 AM
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#470 | | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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40.36% voted Liberal
40.28% voted NDP
19.36% voted neither (mostly Green)
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06-30-2017, 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Jmac Yeah ... about that ... it never should've gotten to where it is in the first place. | True, I won't disagree with that. It is a shitty situation that the government should have intervened on a while ago, but this is the way it is right now. You can trace the low unemployment rate directly back to the boom in real estate. Mess with it too much or too quickly, and there will be some pretty serious consequences.
According to the Sun, 25% of our GDP is depending on it. That is a staggering number, and extremely precarious. http://vancouversun.com/opinion/edit...on-real-estate
I've heard/read that number may even be as high as 40% when you consider all of the attached supporting industries (engineering, grey renovations, hardware sales, mortgage brokers and lenders, etc) Quote:
Originally Posted by Jmac Anyways, based on the NDP-Green agreement, who knows. My opinion is there's not a lot that's going to be done for several reasons.
This is the only text in the NDP-Green agreement that references housing:
In the NDP platform, they outline a "10-year action plan" whereby they would fund 114,000 affordable homes over 10 years by implementing a 2% absentee speculator's tax, closing loopholes that allow certain individuals to avoid paying taxes, and create a task force to address fraud and money laundering.
Now, when you take a look at the Green platform, it's extremely different.
The vague text outlined in the NDP-Green agreement sounds a whole lot like the NDP platform and nothing like the Green platform. And to me, that sounds like it's going to be pretty close to status quo. | I disagree that it will be status quo, both parties campaigned heavily on heavy handed action in the housing market. The Greens wanted to completely remove speculators from the market, and punish anybody who even thinks about a owning 7 figure home.
It might have just been talk, they are political parties after all, but I think we are going to see some big changes coming.
If I had to guess at the changes, assuming they are blended values, it would look like this:
1) 20% Foreign Buyers Tax, Province Wide
2) 2% Speculation Tax applied to anybody not working here
3) Changes to land transfer tax (more for 7 figure homes)
4) Changes to home owners grant (less)
5) Changes in rules with regards to companies owning residential homes
6) Capital gains tax applied to homes bought and sold within a year (or more... maybe 3 or even 5 years)
7) Funding for new provincial CRA task group to specifically target shadow speculators
WILD CARD: Banning foreign ownership all together (probably won't happen, but we are deep in uncharted waters with this left wing alliance right now)
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06-30-2017, 06:19 AM
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Not a chance they'll ban foreign ownership when you can just make it a cash cow.
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06-30-2017, 07:37 AM
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#473 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Doesn't matter what the NDP/Greens do on housing.
If you don't have a detached house in Metro Vancouver today, you still won't get one 2 years from now.
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06-30-2017, 07:43 AM
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Corruption and liars vs incompetence................ incompetence won.
I'm too old to have anything to say as nothing would affect me as a retired individual with no mortgage or need to buy a house, but young people like my kids are in for a rough ride. Mind you, life wasn't all rosy back when I was young, either. In fact, maybe bad times is what this new generation needs. Teach them the true meaning of hardship.
Yeah, the NDP/Green alliance will probably fuck up this province big time. I have little to no confidence in them. Having said that, I'm super glad Crusty got ousted. Even better is that, Peter "Bend 'er over Fast," is gone, Gulolol.
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06-30-2017, 07:44 AM
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#475 | | OMGWTFBBQ is a common word I say everyday
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Originally Posted by MrPhreak
I disagree that it will be status quo, both parties campaigned heavily on heavy handed action in the housing market. The Greens wanted to completely remove speculators from the market, and punish anybody who even thinks about a owning 7 figure home.
It might have just been talk, they are political parties after all, but I think we are going to see some big changes coming.
If I had to guess at the changes, assuming they are blended values, it would look like this:
1) 20% Foreign Buyers Tax, Province Wide
2) 2% Speculation Tax applied to anybody not working here
3) Changes to land transfer tax (more for 7 figure homes)
4) Changes to home owners grant (less)
5) Changes in rules with regards to companies owning residential homes
6) Capital gains tax applied to homes bought and sold within a year (or more... maybe 3 or even 5 years)
7) Funding for new provincial CRA task group to specifically target shadow speculators
WILD CARD: Banning foreign ownership all together (probably won't happen, but we are deep in uncharted waters with this left wing alliance right now)
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lol again, i applaud your enthusiasm and spirit behind the belief of government making quick, big changes. But I've worked with and seen enough of the processes within to say that it'd be really amazing if even 2 or 3 of the things you've listed are implemented.
I think it'll be business as usual while a transition happens. It's a fragile situation and the Liberals are guaranteed to make it as difficult as possible for the fragile alliance.
The only government that works fast is municipal. Namely Vancouver. And only if it involves bike lanes.
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