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09-10-2018, 04:44 PM
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#126 | Willing to sell a family member for a few minutes on RS
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It’s not meant to be savage. It’s true though. Chinese, Australian, English, Swiss, German, Swedish, Mexican, American, etc all have examples of barbaric behaviour, and lots of it. If you judge an entire group by the actions of a few, you will live a life of unfounded fear and hatred. It just continues the cycle of hate by marginalizing communities.
Notice how so many terrorist attacks are by first generation Americans, French, etc.
Imagine seeing communities attacking your parents for their race, religion, ethnicity, etc. It doesn’t make such terrible actions justifiable, but it adds fuel to a fire. The isolation is a major motive for these people, most likely.
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09-10-2018, 05:32 PM
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#127 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by Traum I can answer this question with a bit of cyncism, and there are a few types:
A) They hire professionals to help them legally dodge taxes, and to invest in borderline illegal white collar activities so that the wealth disparity grows at an ever faster pace. And then when the bubble bursts, they cry foul and go back to the government asking for handouts / bailouts (bcos they are too big to fail).
B) They pour massive amounts of $$$ into political parties and lobby groups such that the various levels of governments can be "influenced" into making policities & decisions that are favourable to their own financial interests at the detriment of others, generally the poorer population.
C) They claim to have low income / no income so that they can milk the government's social benefits to the max. In the mean time, they drive their Mercedes and BMW to the food bank to get "free food".
If you think they aren't robbing the poor blokes for all they are worth, you are sorely mistaken. | Can you explain how these examples actually take poor peoples money away from them?
Like walk me through the logic on this
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09-10-2018, 05:55 PM
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#128 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Theres bad apples in every culture and you trump supporters had your pitchforks out waiting to pounce on this type of news. | Who are the "trump supporters with their pitchforks out"?
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09-10-2018, 06:03 PM
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Canada was an actor to bring underage girls to Syria so that they can get raped and passed along as sex slaves for hundreds of "jihadis" to abuse. The Zionist plan has been not only to use rape as a weapon against Syrian women by men from many countries, but its also to use those very children impregnated by rape to be used as human shields. This is the world we live in.
The way I see it this rape and murder of the little girl was not a Syrian or Islamic cause which sheep everywhere will be crying about... its the conditioning that the ruling elites have programed.
From my understanding Syrian men were getting monthly payments (ie. from Canada) to join anti Assad terror groups at the beginning, then once the war hit a critical stage of resources drying up these groups had their funding stop and were only working for food. Many child soldiers were recruited (Zionist doctrine as seen in Africa) which I think this guy was probably one of them.
The west opens its arms to Syrians (and Iranians) because they are people that can help infiltrate future middle eastern wars as really Canadians are only to serve for a one world government with isreal as its capital. The whole of the US was envisioned to be a self sustaining military base as isreal is. American Rape of Vietnamese Women was Considered “Standard Operating Procedure”
I wonder what percentage of those vets came back home to rape American females.
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09-10-2018, 06:17 PM
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#130 | Willing to sell body for a few minutes on RS
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09-10-2018, 06:42 PM
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09-10-2018, 08:13 PM
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40,081 Syrian refugees admitted into Canada since 2015. One of them has committed a high profile crime and there is bigoted generalizations of Syrians. He is a piece of shit human being, there are unfortunately many pieces of shit who have committed horrible crimes born with Canadian passports.
Also before any of you bitch about the government giving out free hand outs to refugees, refugees are to pay the government back over a number of years unless privately sponsored.
In the 90's it was Bosnian refugees and in the 80's it was Vietnamese refugees - both groups of refugees have contributed more to the Canadian economy than your average Canadian. Within ten years of arrival the boat people had an unemployment rate 2.3% lower than the Canadian average. One in five had started a business, 99% had successfully applied to become Canadian citizens, and they were considerably less likely than average to receive some form of social assistance
Let's not go back to being the Canada that sent away the thousands of fleeing Jews to their death.
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09-10-2018, 08:39 PM
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I cant remember off the top of my head
are refugees background checked? medical and criminal history
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09-10-2018, 08:42 PM
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Thank you for that. Refugees who come to Canada don't just get to hang out and call it a day. They have to pay it back unless sponsored privately.
It took our family a while to pay back the government, but when we managed to pay that final dollar back, it was one of the most memorable moments in our lives. My uncle who came to Canada in the 70s was privately sponsored, but still paid back his sponsor family and treated them like family even until this very day. In fact, he ended up sponsoring two Bosnian families himself whose children ended up becoming doctors, serving overseas with Doctors Without Borders.
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09-10-2018, 09:13 PM
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#135 | I have named my kids VIC and VLS
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I appreciate the sentiment but paying back a government loan is like calling a cop brave for doing his job. That’s what was expected. via Imgflip Meme Generator
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09-10-2018, 09:49 PM
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#136 | RS has made me the bitter person i am today!
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero I cant remember off the top of my head
are refugees background checked? medical and criminal history | they should but how do you ask refuges from war torn country to submit any documents? Kinda hard when their city halls and what not are burned to ashes... Did they even have valid passport?
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09-10-2018, 09:51 PM
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#137 | My homepage has been set to RS
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Originally Posted by twitchyzero I cant remember off the top of my head
are refugees background checked? medical and criminal history | Google?
Canada is notorious for being extremely strict on their screening. One of the requirements is no single males allowed. https://globalnews.ca/news/2349421/h...ing-in-canada/ |
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09-10-2018, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore $1186/month/household doesn't seem like that much considering the cost of living these days. Either way I don't see how giving people more assistance than they have in the past so they have a better chance of success is a bad thing. | I think the problem with today's situation is the picture being painted is Western countries are being extremely generous and tolerant of some extremely intolerant, backwards people who are just plain lazy, greedy and ungrateful with evil murderous hearts
The pictures I remember from before are vietnamese wearing rags floating on a raft or some bosnians kid that some how escaped the extinction of their people. And maybe they didn't complain or maybe no one cared to ask them.
But with these current refugees the picture that got me the most was of a line up of 20 something men in designer clothes, it looks like their just in line for a club. And it's like am I supposed to give them money so they can be in the VIP line?
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09-10-2018, 11:14 PM
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| Syrian family living a good life in Surrey
This family getting $4700 a month, and they're still complaining. Dad says can't work cause he can't speak English then he goes to English class and says it wasn't helpful. Then complains he wants to lease some farmland but he can't find any. I can't see any incentive to work when you're making almost 5k tax free. Why not have 8 kids instead and let us pay for them.
Just the sense of entitlement like Canadian taxpayers owe you a comfortable life
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09-10-2018, 11:31 PM
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People use to talk about the lazy Irish the wops the Jews japs and paki's the same. Same B.S. different ethnicity. My understanding many Syrians where well off before the war so it's not going to be the same as a refugee coming from a 3rd world country.
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09-10-2018, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Manic! People use to talk about the lazy Irish the wops the Jews japs and paki's the same. Same B.S. different ethnicity. My understanding many Syrians where well off before the war so it's not going to be the same as a refugee coming from a 3rd world country. | I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Those groups you've described weren't refugees and didn't get any handouts. They obviously had to work hard or they wouldn't have been successful immigrants. What the difference does it make if Syrians were well off before? What does that have to do with anything?
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09-11-2018, 12:03 AM
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New policy initiatives in the works from our high minded liberal government https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...-of-immigrants Quote:
A policy paper called “Feminist Government” calls for small and medium-sized businesses to partner with government to help immigrants get a job using what they call a “Social Impact Bond.” The idea comes from a division of the Privy Council Office, which reports directly to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.
Unlike other job grant programs, this one seeks to have small and medium-sized businesses become social service agencies that work with government in a very complex scheme. The proposal includes using money to make sure immigrants, especially immigrant women, not only get their first job but are promoted, or as the report says, experience “job laddering.”
“Under the Social Impact Bond model, the government and employers, with input from stakeholders including job agencies, would first agree on the specifics of what a successful outcome for an ‘initial hire’ or ‘job laddering’ would look like,” the report reads.
“A monetary value would be assigned to each outcome, to be paid to the employer on completion, and a third-party evaluator would monitor the number of successful outcomes.”
Okay, let’s unpack that from bureacratese.
Canadian taxpayers would pay Canadian employers to give special treatment in hiring immigrants for their first job. Then if the business promoted those people, they would be paid special incentives.
All the while, the employers would have to work with government bureaucrats, job agencies and third-party evaluators to make sure they met plans dreamed up at the highest levels of the civil service. Meaning people that have no idea what it is like to run a small business. |
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Originally Posted by vitaminG I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. Those groups you've described weren't refugees and didn't get any handouts. They obviously had to work hard or they wouldn't have been successful immigrants. What the difference does it make if Syrians were well off before? What does that have to do with anything? | When you think of refugees you don't think of people wearing designer clothing. The Jews where refuges but we sent there boat back to Germany. It's the same B.S. comments. Their barbarians their religion is weird they cant speak English etc.
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09-11-2018, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by vitaminG Syrian family living a good life in Surrey
This family getting $4700 a month, and they're still complaining. Dad says can't work cause he can't speak English then he goes to English class and says it wasn't helpful. Then complains he wants to lease some farmland but he can't find any. I can't see any incentive to work when you're making almost 5k tax free. Why not have 8 kids instead and let us pay for them.
Just the sense of entitlement like Canadian taxpayers owe you a comfortable life | 8 friggin kids... 8 ! Why are we paying for 8 kids?!?!
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09-11-2018, 07:43 AM
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they know how to fuck?
poor people's mentality, the more kids u have ...the more support u get.
child benefit x 8 kids = pure profit
Families with children under age six will receive an annual tax-free benefit of up to $6,400 per child. Those with children between the ages of six and 17 will receive up to $5,400 annually
so $6400 x 8 = $51,200 per year
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09-11-2018, 08:11 AM
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At least no one is defending illegal immigration.. that's just bonkers
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09-11-2018, 08:20 AM
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they know how to fuck?
poor people's mentality, the more kids u have ...the more support u get.
child benefit x 8 kids = pure profit
Families with children under age six will receive an annual tax-free benefit of up to $6,400 per child. Those with children between the ages of six and 17 will receive up to $5,400 annually
so $6400 x 8 = $51,200 per year | here I am, with only one child, thinking I can't afford to have 2nd one...
We would not survive 50% pay cut during maternity leave and added cost when 2nd one is born. Wife works graveyard shift so she can be home during the day to watch the kid, when I'm at work during day time.
I'm missing out so much free money!!!!
All jokes aside, to all you who thinks having many kids draining tax money, think of this way.
8 kids today is 8 tax payers in 20 years.
Look no further than how doomed Japan will be in near future.
Canada will make that money back in tenfold in income tax.
When they start paying 50% in tax for every dollar they make, they are going to wish they stayed in Syria.
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09-11-2018, 08:37 AM
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Doesn't anyone else remember the Vietnamese gang wars of the 90s-early 2000s? Who were these guys? Mostly young male refugees and sons of refugees.
This isn't really a nationality problem. It's mostly a young male "I'm bored and I'm hot shit" problem.
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09-11-2018, 08:44 AM
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Regarding security check, it still takes over 1 year now for security screen. CIC check database globally (US, Interpol, local law enforcement). Any red flag and the application go into a loop for more check. They also do medical check. This is for all immigrants, refugees or not. This incident is unfortunate and tragic but CIC is doing a fantastic job. Canada has one of the toughest and lengthiest security screen in the world.
It really is pathetic that some of you are picking on refugees. Sitting in your comfortable pad pulling anecdotal stories and try to paint the whole population of over 40k people with the same brush. These people are literally escaping bombs dropped over their head and certain deaths.
"Taking on all the bad people and make our country shit." Some of them having bad attitudes don't mean the rest of them aren't out there hustling making a new life and contributing. I wish people have a basic understanding of statistic so they can stop spouting such nonsense.
These "handouts" are loans that they are required by law to pay back. I admire people who do private sponsorship. I wouldn't do it myself but the government can take a portion of my tax and help these people any day of the year.
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09-11-2018, 08:51 AM
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I’m sure local records are very much intact coming from cities that are flattened by bombs
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