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Old 10-03-2017, 08:32 AM   #126
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Normally I would say stories like this are complete BS but in the video's you can see a gun going off on the 4th floor they say it is.

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Old 10-03-2017, 08:43 AM   #127
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Normally I would say stories like this are complete BS but in the video's you can see a gun going off on the 4th floor they say it is.

Hotel Guest Next Door To Las Vegas Shooter Saw 'Multiple Gunmen'
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Old 10-03-2017, 08:59 AM   #128
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Oh I agree the website is BS, I'm mainly going off the video info unless they added that in there as well which is of course possible
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If someone was firing bullets out the 4th floor window, you would think there would be evidence in terms of broken windows/glass on that floor which would be pretty hard to cover up.
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The fact is the Las Vegas shooting was clearly a co-ordinated false flag attack, orchestrated by Paddock as well as at least one other as yet unidentified gunman operating from the fourth floor of the hotel. The mass shooting and scores of dead will be used by the elite to further push their nefarious agenda.
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Sometimes a crazy prick will do crazy things, because he's crazy.
The truth is that sometimes terrible things happen for reasons we cannot understand.

Timothy Macveigh killed 168 people and injured over 600 because he was angry at the ATF for going against the constitution. His own words
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The messed up reality is that some people just want to see the world burn.

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Old 10-03-2017, 09:57 AM   #131
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Can we just put a 30 day thread ban on anyone that posts Fake News? I mean seriously, why are we putting up with this shit?

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Old 10-03-2017, 09:57 AM   #132
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Notice how they don't state whether those are registered guns used?
Statistics, pro or anti, almost always deliberately offer a very small part of the picture in order to push their agenda.

Murder rates in Texas had reduced by more than half since concealed carry became allowed in 1996.
See how easy it is to form arguments with selective information?
We don't include economy, prison population, number of executions, other laws passed, etc. Etc.
There are many many factors that drive/deter people to kill. Gun control is only one

That wasn't the purpose of the article. It's just raw numbers put into a visualized format for most people to understand.

If the murder rate in Texas was halved and the stats say there were 89 mass shootings in the past 4.5 years then there were 178 mass shootings in Texas 4.5 years prior to being allowed to carry? What if there less guns overall? Fewer guns for the good guys and fewer guns for the bad guys? Granted these types of shootings will still occur as they do in Canada but would they still happen as often?

What's the stat in America of being shot with your own gun? I've read 3x as likely but I'd like more sources.
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Can we just put a 30 day thread ban on anyone that posts Fake News? I mean seriously, why are we putting up with this shit?

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Old 10-03-2017, 10:18 AM   #134
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Can we just put a 30 day thread ban on anyone that posts Fake News? I mean seriously, why are we putting up with this shit?

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The problem with that is what constitutes fake news is still difficult to say. Often times "trusted" mainstream news media will put out a story that is entirely narrative driven, ignores facts, takes things out of context, etc either to push an agenda or to attract views/clicks. News media is in the business of fake news.
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Can we just put a 30 day thread ban on anyone that posts Fake News? I mean seriously, why are we putting up with this shit?

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As Trump would say "You are Fake News!"
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The problem with that is what constitutes fake news is still difficult to say. Often times "trusted" mainstream news media will put out a story that is entirely narrative driven, ignores facts, takes things out of context, etc either to push an agenda or to attract views/clicks. News media is in the business of fake news.
I think what CivicBlues was getting at was that members should be a little more discerning in their choice of news sources. I agree with you in the sense that even mainstream news sources are guilty of posting "narrative driven" stories. However, if users stick to more credible sources there will be less likelihood of coming off as the next CharlesInCharge.
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I think what CivicBlues was getting at was that members should be a little more discerning in their choice of news sources. I agree with you in the sense that even mainstream news sources are guilty of posting "narrative driven" stories. However, if users stick to more credible sources there will be less likelihood of coming off as the next CharlesInCharge.
or we can treat people like adults and allow them the responsibility of due dilligence.
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Sometimes a crazy prick will do crazy things, because he's crazy.
The truth is that sometimes terrible things happen for reasons we cannot understand.

Timothy Macveigh killed 168 people and injured over 600 because he was angry at the ATF for going against the constitution. His own words


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The messed up reality is that some people just want to see the world burn.

RIP to the victims.
yea but mcveigh had a clear motive of retaliation to government agencies
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if they did have stricter gun ownership laws,what would happen next if the mentally disturbed man didn't have one....Would he use his car/truck on the las vegas strip going 100 mph then into the country music festival?.
They had barriers including shipping containers surrounding the venue. Also when has a person killed 58 people and injured 500 people with a car?
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They had barriers including shipping containers surrounding the venue. Also when has a person killed 58 people and injured 500 people with a car?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_attack

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Still it's a lot easier to kill with a gun than a car.
LOL Posts smart ass question... Gets proved completely wrong..... Answers with "Still".... lol

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Leaked photos.

Pics look fake. Look at the dead body in the second to last pic. Also the purple pillar lighting does not look right.
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Looks like this was very well planned and not some guy who decided to randomly get a room and start shooting at people. It's going to be interesting to see if he had any political or terror motive.


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Las Vegas madman Stephen Paddock set up a camera inside his hotel room to capture his deadly shooting rampage — and other surveillance in the hallway to alert him as cops closed in on him, according to reports.

The shooter had at least one lens set up to tape himself as he unleashed hell on thousands of unsuspecting concertgoers several hundred yards below his ritzy casino suite, according to ABC News.

Apparently knowing cops would eventually catch up to him, he also wired cameras in the hallway outside his room so he could see when the heat was getting close, the Daily Mail reported.

Paddock killed 59 people and injured more than 500 in the worst mass shooting in US history.
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Pics look fake. Look at the dead body in the second to last pic. Also the purple pillar lighting does not look right.
Don't think so. Few media outlets have shown the pictures now including a local news channel in LV.
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Oh I agree the website is BS, I'm mainly going off the video info unless they added that in there as well which is of course possible
Some people claiming it's just a strobe light and saw it also flickering in the background in some news reports.
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Obviously a car is capable of killing a lot of people, yet a gun is still the go to weapon of choice when someone gets the urge to go on a mass killing spree. Saying things like "they'll just find another way to kill people anyways" is a pathetic excuse to cling on to your shitty gun laws.

I'll take my chances getting run over rather than a bullet to the back of the head where I'm dead before I even know what happened.
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