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AR15 are the pit bulls of the gun world. They're scary looking, and mean sounding.
So I get it when people want them banned. Just like I'm 100% in support of banning pit bulls. It's not the breed, it's the owner. Just like it's not the gun, it's the shooter? If we can save just one life, it's worth it.
Chew on that for a minute.
A gun has a single primary function.
A pitbull does not.
I know you are trying to get someone riled up with your comment and you aren't actually that stupid.
Its just like the ban cars argument. I know plenty of american gun owners are dumb enough to believe that its in the same vain.
Also, no one with any sense is talking about banning guns, as usual. Can we make it take longer than 20 minutes to buy an AR-15 though? It takes me a hell of a lot longer to adopt a pitbull from the shelter.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
A gun has a single primary function.
A pitbull does not.
The ASPCA's position on Pitbulls states; "Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other."
In effect, your little puppy is a descendant of dogs bred to cause harm. Not much different than an AR15, which was originally designed to kill the vietcong. Your little fur trophy may be kind hearted, but as a pitbull owner you face the same stigma as gun owners. Every time a little kid is attacked by some douchebag's poorly trained pittie, I'm sure people look at your dog differently.
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I know you are trying to get someone riled up with your comment and you aren't actually that stupid.
You threw this out there, and I responded in a way that I knew would get your attention.
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There have been
2045 gun deaths so far this year in the US (no suicides included)
3518 injuries
209 incidents of self defence related gunfire
238 accidental shootings.
Man those good guys with guns sure are saving the world.
30-1 for the bad guys isn't much of a stat for that argument.
I took offense to this, so I decided to research the 2017 Pit Bull attacks in the USA.
-Logan Braatz, 6-years old, was brutally killed by up to three dogs while walking to a school bus stop with a group of children. The dogs, a pit bull, pit bull-mix and unidentified breed, also critically injured 5-year old Syrai Sanders -- the dogs severed her scalp from her skull.
-Jamie Owsley, 21-years old, died after being bitten in the neck by a family pit bull. The attack occurred at his home at 1005 1/2 Jersey Street in the early morning hours of February 26.
-76-Years old | Los Angeles, California
Valentine Herrera, 76-years old, was savagely attacked by two pit bulls and died nearly one month later while hospitalized. The attack occurred on February 2, in the 2600 block of Lincoln Park Avenue. Herrera was walking his pomeranian, named Dodger, when the pit bulls escaped their property and attacked Dodger, killing him. When Herrera intervened, the pit bulls attacked him.
That's february alone. There are lots more, but damn it's upsetting to see these innocent victims of criminal Pit Bulls.
You're probably going to say "Well that's only a handful of deaths compared to guns". But damn, the situations aren't much different. Innocent person attacked and killed while going about their day to day business.
I bet your murder stats don't differentiate between gang murders, and random killings. These dogs don't attack bangers. They attack regular people.
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Also, no one with any sense is talking about banning guns, as usual. Can we make it take longer than 20 minutes to buy an AR-15 though? It takes me a hell of a lot longer to adopt a pitbull from the shelter.
It took me 3 weeks to get my AR15. That's two weeks for the transfer and shipping, and another week for Miramichi to send me my paperwork so I could legally take it to the range and back.
If it would stop kids from being killed, I would give up my AR. Would you do the same with your dog? Or are you like me with my guns, a responsible owner who shouldn't have to give up what they love?
If it would stop kids from being killed, I would give up my AR. Would you do the same with your dog? Or are you like me with my guns, a responsible owner who shouldn't have to give up what they love?
A dog is a living breathing thing capable of actual emotions, a gun is a hunk of metal. If someone cries over their gun getting taken away the same way someone's heart would break if you took their dog away then I don't want that person owning a gun, because that's some next level shit.
A dog is a living breathing thing capable of actual emotions, a gun is a hunk of metal. If someone cries over their gun getting taken away the same way someone's heart would break if you took their dog away then I don't want that person owning a gun, because that's some next level shit.
I ensure that my guns are locked away. Ammo and firearms are far from each other.
They're not going to hurt anyone. They're inanimate objects incapable of making their own decisions.
However, this animal has the ability to make it's own decisions, and far too often those decisions have led to violence.
A gun has a single primary function.
A pitbull does not.
That's not a great argument, weren't pitbulls originally bred to do roughly the same thing as guns originally were? A lot of breeds were created for a single purpose, that doesn't mean that is the only purpose they are now used for. This applies to things like guns as well. That also means they're both still capable of negligent owners using them for their "original" purpose.
Like anything, if it's capable of causing harm to other people through the owners negligence then it should be controlled at a level equal to its risk. Bans don't work, and are usually unnecessary, but controls do, and a lot of things aren't controlled at the level they probably should be (ie guns and mental health in the US).
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half those dudes are hotter than ,my GF.
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OH thank god. I thought u had sex with my wife. :cry:
First off, nice cherry pick there.
Second, this is some next level shit? Really? Can't find a different breed that you can love? It has to be a Pit Bull?
What's wrong hipster? A doberman doesn't go well with your tattoos and man bun?
Your stance is clear on this subject.
Dear sweetie,
Your SJW is showing.
I don't own a pitbull, in fact I think you should have to take some kind of course before you should own one. I won't bother responding to the rest because you clearly try to hide your panties being bunched up with humor.
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Pitbulls were bred based on lack of aggression to other humans. They were bred to kill other dogs 100 years ago. Genetics have evolved however. There are barely any pits left with those bloodlines. Also, that’s an American bulldog you posted hypa.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
AR15 are the pit bulls of the gun world. They're scary looking, and mean sounding.
So I get it when people want them banned. Just like I'm 100% in support of banning pit bulls. It's not the breed, it's the owner. Just like it's not the gun, it's the shooter? If we can save just one life, it's worth it.
Chew on that for a minute.
A bad dog might be able to 'chew' down one kid.
A bad gun 'owner' might be able to kill one person (without a gun).
A bad gun owner with a gun can mow down 50 people while injuring another 500.
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Colton Haab, a Junior ROTC student and survivor of the school shooting in Parkland, Fla. last week, said he going to participate in the CNN town hall Wednesday night, but decided not to when he said the network provided him with a list of “scripted questions.”
"I expected to be able to ask my questions and give my opinions on my questions," Haab said told a local ABC affiliate, WPLG-TV. "CNN had originally asked me to write a speech and questions, and it ended up being all scripted."
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He said she said. I can't help but wonder who's telling the truth..
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A pitbull can be turned into a poodle with something as simple as a muzzle. What can we do with guns, ask politely that instead of shooting a bunch of people keep the safety on instead?
A pitbull can be turned into a poodle with something as simple as a muzzle.
Or you could, you know, just not arm the gun. Without bullets, it's nothing more than a pretty hammer.
Just to let you know, with this statement your Surrey upbringing is showing. The question is, does the muzzle match your wife beater t-shirt?
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What can we do with guns, ask politely that instead of shooting a bunch of people keep the safety on instead?
And are you going to kindly ask the rampaging pit bull to please stop biting you?
hahahahahha! Every time you post I have to laugh at your attempts.
But please, keep throwing these flaccid arguments out there. If anything, for our entertainment.
Or you could, you know, just not arm the gun. Without bullets, it's nothing more than a pretty hammer.
Just to let you know, with this statement your Surrey upbringing is showing. The question is, does the muzzle match your wife beater t-shirt?
And are you going to kindly ask the rampaging pit bull to please stop biting you?
hahahahahha! Every time you post I have to laugh at your attempts.
But please, keep throwing these flaccid arguments out there. If anything, for our entertainment.
What do you mean just not arm the gun, it's not hard to buy bullets is it? The whole issue is about how easy it is to buy guns and bullets so I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. We're you always this much of a goof or is this new?
What do you mean just not arm the gun, it's not hard to buy bullets is it?
jesus fuck man, I don't have time for this.
Let me spell it out for you in a way you can understand.
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A PAL or a confirmed Non-Resident Firearm Declaration or a Temporary Firearms Borrowing Licence (for non-residents) is needed to purchase firearms and ammunition in Canada.
The whole issue is about how easy it is to buy guns and bullets so I don't even know what you're talking about anymore.
Buying guns and bullets where?!?!
In Canada where we live?
Or the USA? Or Afganistan? Or the fucking moon?!
Bottom line is that it's very hard to buy ammo in Canada. Try to buy a box of .223 rounds from your local Canadian Tire and let us know how it goes for you.
In 16 of the 50 states, it's very hard to buy ammo. As much as the leftie bias wants you to believe it, guns and ammo are well controlled in the populous states. I was at a gun shop in California a few months ago. Not a chance he would have sold be a gun, or ammo as a non-resident of the US, and also a non-license holder.
Educate yourself on the subject before throwing your social justice warrior cap on.
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We're you always this much of a goof or is this new?
For non restricted firearms in canada (most shotguns, most rifles, some semi automatic rifles, no handguns)
Dealer must verify PAL, might have to record who purchased, but I dont think the records are submitted to anywhere.
Private sale must verify PAL, SALE DOES NOT NEED TO BE RECORDED.
Gun show must verify PAL, SALE DOES NOT NEED TO BE RECORDED.
Under no circumstances are dealers required to record personal information regarding the sale of non-restricted firearms, though they must confirm a valid PAL before selling to a customer. Some dealers do record information at their discretion, but there is no pressure from the CFO to do so. Once a NR firearm is sold to a private individual, it can essentially disappear.
Private individuals are legally required to check a PAL, though there is no way to regulate people who don't, as non-restricted firearms are no longer in any kind of federal registry.
On a separate note, with regards to AR15 rifles, the lower receiver is considered the registered firearm, any other part can be bought without a license. With consideration given to the availability of 80% lowers in the United States, manufacturing an unregistered AR15 in Canada is exceedingly easy.
The point I'm getting at is, the ease at which an unlicensed individual can acquire a firearm in Canada is laughable. Our laws prevent very little, the fact that we don't have these school shootings in Canada is due to a variety of factors that don't involve firearms at all. This is crucial in understanding that the US has an enormous problem that begins with their youth and transitions into adulthood. Whether it stems from the environment, family, drugs, mental disorders, or all of the above, it is obviously in stark contrast to Canadian society.
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So now Trump is pushing for arming teachers and to give them a bonus for taking on this responsibility of carrying. Guess this is the variation of only another person carrying can stop a mass shooter. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.
Several national teachers unions and education experts have spoken out against President Donald Trump's recent suggestions that arming teachers would be a way to lessen the carnage of school shootings.
Randi Weingarten, the president of the American Federation of Teachers, said there was a telephone town hall with 60,000 teachers Wednesday night and "the response was universal, even from educators who are gun owners: teachers don't want to be armed, we want to teach."
"We don’t want to be, and would never have the expertise needed to be, sharpshooters; no amount of training can prepare an armed teacher to go up against an AR-15," Weingarten said in a statement released by the AFT.
"How would arming teachers even work? Would kindergarten teachers be carrying guns in holsters? Is every classroom now going to have a gun closet? Will it be locked? When you have seconds to act when you hear the code for an active shooter, is a teacher supposed to use those seconds getting her gun instead of getting her students to safety?" she said in the statement. "Anyone who pushes arming teachers doesn’t understand teachers and doesn’t understand our schools. Adding more guns to schools may create an illusion of safety, but in reality it would make our classrooms less safe."
Buying guns and bullets where?!?!
In Canada where we live?
Or the USA? Or Afganistan? Or the fucking moon?!
Bottom line is that it's very hard to buy ammo in Canada. Try to buy a box of .223 rounds from your local Canadian Tire and let us know how it goes for you.
In 16 of the 50 states, it's very hard to buy ammo. As much as the leftie bias wants you to believe it, guns and ammo are well controlled in the populous states. I was at a gun shop in California a few months ago. Not a chance he would have sold be a gun, or ammo as a non-resident of the US, and also a non-license holder.
Educate yourself on the subject before throwing your social justice warrior cap on.
Again, your Surrey is showing.
I'm talking about Americans in America you dummy, why would I talk about how hard it is for a non Americans to buy ammo in America that's not the issue is it?
Why is it you have to try so hard when you're rattled lol, it's pretty sad.
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