Aren't they just saying that an abortion is not a constitutional right? So as with many of these moral issues, they are forcing the legislatures to make it into a law to permit abortion so that it is crystal clear.

If you leave it to the Supreme Court to interpret whether an abortion is a constitutional right, this is exactly what will happen ... if you get a conservative majority = no, not a constitutional right. Liberal majority = yes, it is a constitutional right. Flip flops depending on whether Rep or Dems put more judges in the Supreme Court.

Roe v Wade was a 7-2 decision in 1973 and 5 of those 7 votes were Republican judges, it was authored by a Republican judge.

This today is just right wing extremism at its finest.

The decision was not about abortion, it was about constitutional rights to privacy for women outweighing the birth of a child.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...aked-draft-us/
What happened to free speech?

https://www.castanet.net/news/Canada...S-draft-ruling

Some believe it can't happen here but it can. Prince Edward Island only has one clinic and Alberta on has them in Edmonton and Calgary.

https://www.actioncanadashr.org/site...?itok=_qL2s5Yb

I heard incest is fun for the whole family

Totally inappropriate thing to say.

The Roe v Wade doesn't make a determination whether abortion itself is a constitutional right or not.

In that case the constitutional right in question is the right to privacy, and that outlawing abortions infringes on those rights to privacy. And that was what the ruling was about back then.

For abortion to be constitutionally protected, it must be made law through through the US's parliamentary process. Once it's law and amended to the constitution, it would become very difficult to be repealed by a future government.


Canada is actually in a situation where we have no laws governing abortion, neither providing a right to accessing them nor restricting access to them. Mulroney's government back in 1988 tried introducing new laws surrounding them, but they were defeated, in the Senate of all places.

This is literally what some of those hillbilly senators etc in the south are saying, which is why I said it lol

I’ve seen a few different articles pop up basically round about saying that

Link:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...l-opportunity/

This is actually not true.

SCOTUS is overturning the landmark decision on the basis that abortion is not a constitutional right and should not be up to the decision of SCOTUS, but instead something that either federal or state lawmakers should make their own decision and therefore appropriate law.

To put it more precisely, in no country, including Canada, is abortion a right protected by either charter or constitution. And thus, it's not up to Supreme Court to decide whether abortion should be legal or not.

Don't get me wrong, I fully support abortion as I feel if a person is not able to give a child a proper environment or condition to grow up, they should not have kids and are therefore free to choose whether they want to have kids or not. However, there are many things involved when it comes to abortion, pretty much at the same level as assisted suicide, that make it so controversial.

Thus, I think it's ok for SCOTUS to revisit its prior decision. They are NOT BANNING it. They just left it for Fed/State gov't to decide on their own and it's not something SCOTUS would interfere.

It comes down to men wanting to control women.................. sad.

I know it's more complicated than that, but.......


I agree with what Hehe is saying about the supreme court not having the power to decide the legality of abortions. A woman should have the right to choose. If she chooses abortion, she should somehow be protected, supported, whatever..........

Religious beliefs - nuff said.

There's a lot of women out there who want to control other women too.

All about having power over and controlling people. Just like religious groups. It's not about saving people from evil and shit. They're the evil ones. We need to be saved from them.

Do you also say the n-word when you recite rap lyrics?

Thanks, that was the same example I was thinking of!

Just because some people say something frowned upon, it means it’s ok for you to say?

SensitiveScene lives on.

I’m posting it more to bring up the absurdity to the discussion

I could see how the delivery of it could be misconstrued, but anyone who knows the statements out of the republicans mouths that LITERALLY said this get what you’re saying.

This is such a hot topic issue. I really don't know if there's a right or wrong answer. If I had to choose, i'm probably leaning a little bit more towards pro-choice.

I think the right answer is to be able to control what happens to your own body and not have some weird govt. intervention bordering on religious beliefs influence that ? Lol

I could drag Turds statements into the freedom to do what you want with your body ala vaccines into this but..

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-09YQki6qo...ed_coffey2.png

There’s actually definitely a fucking right answer lol and it’s that a woman gets to decide how to use her own body.
Re: vaccines
Does a woman getting an abortion increase your chances of contracting a potentially deadly illness? Are vaccines being forced into anyones bodies, or are they being denied things like travel, employment in certain sectors, etc? It’s not the same boss. Stay tired and it will save you from making a very stupid comparison.

Yea..that’s why I didn’t go there lol

Ok, well this is the thought process in my mind.

Does the maturity of the baby matter? First trimester vs third trimester? If we go to the extreme, what if it's one day before her due date and the baby is full term.

Does that not change anything for you? I'm not saying it should change your opinion, I'm just trying to understand your frame of mind.

It does matter, that’s why there are stipulations in place based on gestation period. If the baby can not survive out of the womb on its own, even with medical intervention, it’s simply still a part of the mother, and therefore up to her. Every time you shot a load into a towel one could argue that it’s a potential life ended. That said, in terms of dire consequence to the mother, those rules should, and do go out the window, as no one should be forced to die for childbirth.

I think that's where the issues are for a lot of people, what are the definitions of a "Human Life" and what circumstances supersede the current laws.

Which is why I don't think it's black or white, but I am pro-choice leaning.

There is SO MUCH death and unfairness in the world... people die for literally no reason every day... lack of water... lack of food... being too far from proper medical assistance... poor diagnoses... war... not being of good enouhh economic status... accidents... mistakes... murder

The fact that anyone... ANYONE... is worried about whether an unborn baby is given the chance to live or not is predicated entirely on a person being SO incredibly insulated from any of those sides of this world... SO privileged that they can't imagine a situation where someone should be allowed to choose whether to bring a life into this world or not so they feel like they should make it for them and force people to choose that path. It's also rooted in SHAME... that sick need of people to feel better about themselves and be all like "tsk tsk, shouldn't have been such a heathen... I got through MY life without getting pregnant at the wrong time"

It's pretty simple when you aren't putting yourself in the position of a supposedly altruistic overseer of the world judging everyone else for their decisions. The fact that these people make ABORTION their hill to die on regarding fairness in human life just shows how out of touch they are with the real world around them.

The same people holding those "Pro Life" signs, they'll read Fox News an hour later and see a story about a black kid being shot for stealing candy and they'll think "He shouldn't have stole that candy, got what he deserved"... they're just absolutely ridiculous narrow-minded fucks and the only idea they have in their own mind of abortion is that their little Sally Spoonfed has an oopsie with her boyfriend in 11th grade and they don't want her to have the ability to end the life of that precious baby they want to all pitch in and raise as a family... which is probably the reality for like 1% or less of actual abortion cases.

@68style, what is your opinion on third trimester abortions?

Or are you in favour of abortions at any stage for any reason?

Again, i'm not judging, i'm just asking.

I can see how it gets to a point of no return and I think the existing laws support that.

That said, access and education would completely eliminate that as a possibility though, there's no reason it should ever get that far before a decision can/should be made.

There are outliers like perhaps danger to the mother's health and whatnot of course, but if someone has comfortable and private access to it, it shouldn't take them 6+ months to make up their mind.