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68style 04-11-2025 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9172924)
So you hate billionaires, hate the establishment, but have issues with people who hate the *checks notes*
Billionaire establishment.
Got it.

LOL why you guys have to keep quoting this roomba just running around here bumping into shit on repeat every day.

The only right way in his mind is to be exactly like him, and who the fuck wants that?

westopher 04-11-2025 08:03 AM

Haha fair. I will try and control myself.

underscore 04-11-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 6793026 (Post 9172913)
Don't all region make their own pop / snack / chips? There's no reason doritos are shipped from US.

I think most of them do, but some specialty ingredients get shipped around. Like the concentrated flavouring for some pops.

PeanutButter 04-11-2025 08:40 AM

Buffet commented on Tariffs awhile ago (before Trump was in office), but he actually said having a large trade imbalance typically isn't a good thing for the US.

When you have a large trade deficit with a country for a prolonged period of time, this can actually hurt US sovereignty. So it's important to impose tariffs or other measures to decrease the trade gap.

The simplistic explanation is that when China produces a lot of cheap goods, the US buys them and the Chinese corporations/economy increases. This means they now have the capital to prosper, increase their economy, etc. The Chinese have been very tactical over the last 30 years. Just look at their country now, they're a huge super power. This in part is because of the US supporting their manufacturing sector.

Of course, this is super simplistic and there are many factors, but now this is a problem because China is challenging the US economically. I think this vlogger ishowspeed really put China on the map for Americans. China is so advanced, it's pretty crazy. If you look at the US, they look primitive comparatively.

Long story short, having a wide trade gap isn't good for the US in the long term.

EvoFire 04-11-2025 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9172925)
LOL why you guys have to keep quoting this roomba just running around here bumping into shit on repeat every day.

The only right way in his mind is to be exactly like him, and who the fuck wants that?

Roomba is hilarious

supafamous 04-11-2025 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9172931)
Buffet commented on Tariffs awhile ago (before Trump was in office), but he actually said having a large trade imbalance typically isn't a good thing for the US.

He also did say that tariffs are an effectively an act of war (and I agree).

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9172931)
When you have a large trade deficit with a country for a prolonged period of time, this can actually hurt US sovereignty. So it's important to impose tariffs or other measures to decrease the trade gap.

The simplistic explanation is that when China produces a lot of cheap goods, the US buys them and the Chinese corporations/economy increases. This means they now have the capital to prosper, increase their economy, etc. The Chinese have been very tactical over the last 30 years. Just look at their country now, they're a huge super power. This in part is because of the US supporting their manufacturing sector.

Of course, this is super simplistic and there are many factors, but now this is a problem because China is challenging the US economically. I think this vlogger ishowspeed really put China on the map for Americans. China is so advanced, it's pretty crazy. If you look at the US, they look primitive comparatively.

Long story short, having a wide trade gap isn't good for the US in the long term.

Agree with this and the general complexity of trade. While it's not a zero sum game and nations should absolutely trade freely there are tradeoffs to be made in terms of dependence or sovereignty. It's the old story that no countries that have both had McDonald's have ever gone to war with each other - it's just another way to say don't go to war with people you're doing business with.

American offshoring their "cheap" jobs enabled China to become a superpower - a superpower that now, increasingly, has the most capable and educated workforce. America, like it often does, was super short sighted and as they offshored jobs they didn't reeducate those workers and move them up the value chain so America now doesn't have the engineers they desperately need.

pastarocket 04-11-2025 11:19 AM

Good luck in Cheeto trying to get China's president Xi to call him to negotiate the tariffs haha:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/10/polit...ffs/index.html


Xi is not a negotiator. He delegates the work to his low level bureaucrats to do that work. Cheeto thinks that Xi will call him?? LUL


Xi is very wary that Cheeto would ambush him in a one on one negotiation similar to the Cheeto and Vance ambush on Zelensky.

This might be a very long trade war.

JDMDreams 04-11-2025 11:26 AM

What is aura:

“For over 70 years, China’s development has relied on self-reliance and hard work — never on handouts from others, and it is not afraid of any unjust suppression,” Xi said according to state broadcaster CCTV during his meeting with the Spanish prime minister."

The Chinese is used the the bad times, you can see it in the parents generations. They are used to eating leaves and being dirt farmers.

Chinese will not call them. Meanwhile xi is visiting Vietnam and Japan. Cuz they give him face.

JDMDreams 04-11-2025 11:36 AM

Also maybe Cheetos should sign an executive order for chickens to lay more eggs, he can't even control domestic egg prices let alone world trade

Traum 04-11-2025 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 9172956)
Xi is very wary that Cheeto would ambush him in a one on one negotiation similar to the Cheeto and Vance ambush on Zelensky.

I don't think Emperor Xi knows English -- at least, he is definitely not fluent in it. So there is zero chance Xi will run into a Zelensky-like dress down from Trump.

VRYALT3R3D 04-11-2025 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 9172961)
I don't think Emperor Xi knows English -- at least, he is definitely not fluent in it. So there is zero chance Xi will run into a Zelensky-like dress down from Trump.

China needs a leader like Jiang Zemin<3

JDMDreams 04-11-2025 01:28 PM

Lol yale study says it will cost the average Americans over $4900 a year for the tariffs

https://youtu.be/7PkPMtiaRw4?si=kOA7DxeyQUY_aUCD

CivicBlues 04-11-2025 01:33 PM

I call on a summit of Peasants and Hillbillies to resolve this long standing trade war

Badhobz 04-11-2025 01:45 PM

Now that’s communism !

JDMDreams 04-11-2025 03:33 PM

This is more exciting than the Tyson and Jake fight. Everyone's money on the line. :pokerface::awwyeah:

donk. 04-11-2025 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D (Post 9172969)
China needs a leader like Jiang Zemin<3

You mean they need a leader like Lai Ching-te
Spoiler!

whitev70r 04-11-2025 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9172976)
Lol yale study says it will cost the average Americans over $4900 a year for the tariffs

https://youtu.be/7PkPMtiaRw4?si=kOA7DxeyQUY_aUCD

This is why Xi should wait for Trump to come crawling to call him on all 4's.

VRYALT3R3D 04-11-2025 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9172979)
I call on a summit of Peasants and Hillbillies to resolve this long standing trade war


JDMDreams 04-11-2025 04:33 PM

We should cruise Robson and start blasting Chinese anthem:joy:

mikemhg 04-11-2025 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mikemhg (Post 9172670)
So now the markets are going up as a result of the 90-day tariff pause announcement.

Please tell me how this isn't insider trading and market manipulation.

Well, this asshole finally said the quiet part out loud.

Trump brags in Oval Office that his billionaire pals made a killing in stocks after he pulled the plug on tariffs
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2731386.html


Trump: “He made $2.5 million, and he made $900 million! That’s not bad!” Trump said, pointing to financial investor Charles Schwab and then NASCAR team owner Roger Penske. The men were part of a visiting guest contingent of mostly racing notables."

Man, this is unbelievable.

Fuck Trump, fuck his bootlicking supporters, these people fucking disgust me, I've come to a point where I will happily cut off friends and acquittances that provide excuses to this man's agenda.

All the signs were there, all the evidence was as clear as day as to what this guy stood for, yet people still fell for the grift.

68style 04-11-2025 09:54 PM

Well, he can't be charged with anything, so what does he care.

JDMDreams 04-12-2025 08:38 AM

Here’s how much a ‘Made in the USA’ iPhone would cost


https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2025/04/11/...ould-cost.html

Bank of America Securities analyst Wamsi Mohan said in a Thursday note that the iPhone 16 Pro, which is currently priced at $1,199, could increase 25% based on labor costs alone. That would make it a roughly $1,500 device.

Wedbush's Dan Ives pegged $3,500 as the U.S. iPhone's price shortly after last week's tariff announcement, estimating that Apple would need to spend $30 billion over three years to move 10% of its supply chain to the U.S.

Even if Apple spent heavily to get Foxconn or another partner to agree to build some iPhones in the U.S, it would take years to construct the plants and install the machinery, and there's no guarantee that U.S. trade policy might not change yet again in a way to make the factory less useful.

The biggest issue with Uncle Sam's iPhone is that the U.S. doesn't have the same workforce as China – though the massive number of workers needed to build iPhones is one of the attractions for the Trump administration.

Bank of America Securities' Mohan estimated on Thursday that the labor cost for assembling and testing an iPhone in the U.S. would come in at $200 per iPhone, up from $40 in China.

Apple CEO Cook has also said that another issue is that American workers don't have the right skills. In a 2017 interview, Cook said there aren't enough tooling engineers in the U.S. Those engineers work on and configure the machines that take the sophisticated designs from Apple, which come in the form of computer files, and transform them into physical objects

:joy::joy: so the ai videos were right

CivicBlues 04-12-2025 08:48 AM

^Nevermind
Smartphones and computers are now exempt from Trump’s latest tariffs


The Fart of the Deal

Gumby 04-12-2025 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9173076)

Wonder how much money trump’s buddies made from tech stocks after this announcement…

The7even 04-13-2025 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9172909)
So many mind-controlled wokies. Sad!

Useful idiots.


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