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Old 04-30-2025, 03:51 PM   #9626
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It's still 145%. Companies are starting to discontinue sales in the US as their current stock runs out.

It's going to take a little while, but this is going to destroy their economy and completely change the lifestyle of Americans who aren't very well off.
While I agree with your comment, I predict discretionary spending will impact their economy over a short period of time while Americans shift their spend to necessities for the next while.
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Old 04-30-2025, 04:52 PM   #9627
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While I agree with your comment, I predict discretionary spending will impact their economy over a short period of time while Americans shift their spend to necessities for the next while.
Yeah that's kind of what I meant in a pre-caffeinated way

Problem is the necessities will be extremely expensive too. If they're not directly from China, some part of them will rely on Chinese goods to get there.
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Doesn't feel like this would go on for long at a level that it meaningfully affects American lives.

There'd be mass domestic discontent among the lower income for making already difficult lives even harder. He would try to convince them hey relax, it's the long game. And they'd be all F that: your new homegrown factories will take years, meanwhile I won't make it another week.

Trump is super sensitive to people not liking him, so he'd declare a state of emergency, and immediately turn around and print money. Handing out checks at unprecedented new levels. And then business as usual!
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I don't think the US has a strong textiles industry or the workforce/skilled labour to ramp up, so things like clothing, shoes etc. will be tough. They generally have a good food supply chain but will need people to work in that sector, I think deporting Mexicans won't help their situation, so this will be interesting to see how food supply and prices creep up. We'll certainly be impacted by this in Canada, too!
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As predicted, Musk is jumping ship and now thinks he's miraculously going to make Tesla great again. Absolute fucking idiot to think he could be Trump's unofficial spokesperson, troll the people who buy his cars, and come out of all this unscathed. Good luck getting Tesla back to its glory days. His likely play is to step down and focus on SpaceX and the massive government contracts he's going to hand himself.
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If he were to focus his efforts on to SpaceX, perhaps he can springboard off of Bezos' Blue Origin flop.
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As predicted, Musk is jumping ship and now thinks he's miraculously going to make Tesla great again. Absolute fucking idiot to think he could be Trump's unofficial spokesperson, troll the people who buy his cars, and come out of all this unscathed. Good luck getting Tesla back to its glory days. His likely play is to step down and focus on SpaceX and the massive government contracts he's going to hand himself.
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As predicted, Musk is jumping ship and now thinks he's miraculously going to make Tesla great again.
If Musk's robots start to change society for the better, people are going to completely forget their current hate for him instantly.

#1 thing that needs to happen is robots and AI need to start working in healthcare. Robots doing things like stitches and diaper changes in the hospitals are the first steps to fully AI and automated hospitals with some trained human oversight.
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Tesla board should hire Carlos Ghosn.
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Homegrown factories for half that shit they import from China is not economically viable. If they can't afford it at 2x the cost now, they're not going to afford it when it's made in america at 3x the cost...
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If Musk's robots start to change society for the better, people are going to completely forget their current hate for him instantly.

#1 thing that needs to happen is robots and AI need to start working in healthcare. Robots doing things like stitches and diaper changes in the hospitals are the first steps to fully AI and automated hospitals with some trained human oversight.
His robots suck and are way behind other companies.
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His robots suck and are way behind other companies.
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His robots suck and are way behind other companies.
Most people don't understand the complexity that goes into these robots AND to mass-produce them at scale.

I'm sure there are better robots out there than Tesla bots, but no company on earth has the scale to build them efficiently.

Throughout history, it was never the best product that prevailed, but rather the one that makes the most financial sense. Think Beta vs. VHS or iRobot vs. Chinese competitors, the former usually hold the technical advantage, but their cost eventually made it impossible to compete with their cheaper alternatives.

Boston Dynamic humanoid robot has arguably the best agility of all robots out there right now. But the cost of building one, my acquaintance who is in the industry in China (he works in that company where you can buy now but does not much more than walking around. Even that is a stretch) put it somewhere in the mid 6 figures USD to breakeven, that's not factoring yet the R&D costs. Even their robot dogs at 75k USD is supposedly being sold at loss.

That guaranteed the product to be niche. And regardless how well it does anything, it's going to be niche as there aren't that many with that kind of disposable income.

And when I asked my buddy about the price that Elon Musk was suggesting, he said it's not impossible if made at scale. But if anyone can build a functional, relatively useful humanoid robots for 30k USD, that'd be Tesla with maybe BYD given how vertically integrated it is.
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Canada should be rah-rah-rah'ing a national project to roll out robot doctors, teachers, construction workers, and elderly care bots.

Instead, we're on the cutting edge of banning plastic straws, sending money to Quebec, keeping people high on drugs, and chopping off bodyparts for gender swaps.
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Unless you are a diehard Trump fan, how can you not be offended by this?

Even among the GOP supporters, many of them are supposedly religious and conservative people (of the Catholic faith). How can they not be offended by this as well?
(or have their brains really turned into mush too, even when it comes to something religious?)
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C'mon man... it's funny!

Nothing will be as funny as the Corn Pop story...

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