Trump thread 2.0

[VRYALT3R3D]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

Ya he's not paraphrasing, Mark.

It's a dog whistle through and through, he's indicating that if he sees a pilot that is black, it's a DEI hire. Who the fuck says that? I've flown on countless flights, visited 5 continents, and many countries within. I've never boarded a plane and did a face check on the damn pilot to deem them illegitimate based on their race. He knows what the fuck he's trying to do there, give me a break.

He's made that same comparison as well towards black women, sating black women don't carry the "brain processing power" to be taken seriously. He's also stated passing the Civil Rights Act is a "huge mistake."

That's an odd level of dog whistling to somehow say his words shouldn't be taken literally. Why is he being given so much leeway?

I would agree with you he said plenty of retarded shit.

[MarkyMark]

Originally Posted by westopher

Referring to several prominent black women who have said affirmative action helped them get into schools that they may not have been able to attend. (Due to socioeconomic reasons or policies that would have previously not given them the opportunity to attend that school.
“You do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously, you had to go take white persons spot”
That’s fuckin verbatim. That’s racist. That’s bullshit. Now, tell me why it isn’t, because you seem quite sure that it was meant in some sort of other context, even though it’s continually been posted, clear as day what is meant by that.

His reasoning was he didn't think socioeconomic factors should give you a leg up on anyone else when it comes to why you get something. He thought everyone had the same chance to get the grades and that it should go to the best applicant. Do I think that? No, but I think his anger came more from anyone getting passed over something to be given to someone else, regardless of circumstances.

[supafamous]

If Charlie Kirk wasn't a horrible racist then the racists wouldn't have been mourning him so hard this past week. He was their role model, he was their hero. If he was just some run of the mill bum the flags wouldn't be at half mast.

I don't think you actually need to review his words to know that he was a horrible racist, I think you can just watch the response from all the other racists (and homophobes, and other phobes) and know how important he was to them.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Originally Posted by supafamous

If Charlie Kirk wasn't a horrible racist then the racists wouldn't have been mourning him so hard this past week. He was their role model, he was their hero. If he was just some run of the mill bum the flags wouldn't be at half mast.

I don't think you actually need to review his words to know that he was a horrible racist, I think you can just watch the response from all the other racists (and homophobes, and other phobes) and know how important he was to them.

You are so angry. Were you raped by Charlie?

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D

You are so angry. Were you raped by Charlie?

For someone that "doesn't care for him" or Trump you sure have their dicks in your mouth quite often

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by VRYALT3R3D

I would agree with you he said plenty of retarded shit.

Look at us building a bridge, my dear.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

His reasoning was he didn't think socioeconomic factors should give you a leg up on anyone else when it comes to why you get something. He thought everyone had the same chance to get the grades and that it should go to the best applicant. Do I think that? No, but I think his anger came more from anyone getting passed over something to be given to someone else, regardless of circumstances.

Come on dog, don't piss on my feet and tell me it's raining.

There is no statistical evidence or proof to support that airlines are hiring pilots based on DEI, literally none. Becoming a pilot isn't some kind of nepotistic career path, you either meet the requirements and have the hours, or you don't. Plain and simple. DEI is just another acronym and dog whistle people like Kirk and the Republicans have been harping on, next year it'll be something else.

It's ironic these fuckers cry about DEI and "merit" meanwhile Trump's entire cabinet is filled with nepo-babies and cronies who are sitting in positions with literally no background or qualifications to hold such position in the first place.

Yet another do as I say, not as I do hypocrisy from these guys.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by MarkyMark

Sorry, he was an asshole but didn't deserve to be murdered. Bin Laden yes, Kirky no.

In the big picture Bin Laden is actually a bit player in terms of death toll - we remember him b/c it happened in our time, it was so visible, and the response by the US so visceral but "only" 3,000 people died in the attack and then there are another 8,000 confirmed deaths due to exposure and possibly another 40,000 or so that have illnesses seemingly related to the attack. However most people think of only the deaths that took place on 9/11. If the bar for deserving to be murdered is Bin Laden then the list of people who deserve to die is a lot longer than most of us realise.

OTOH, it's estimated that the US would have seen between 130,000 and 200,000 fewer deaths from COVID if the Trump administration had a more robust response to it - remember that they basically treated it as though it was a joke. Those people didn't have to die.

Despite Trump "killing" several times more people due to his inaction and incompetence he gets a pass when compared to someone like Bin Laden in terms of death tolls because people aren't good at indirect attribution of death (just like we don't count the people who got cancer from 9/11) yet a death caused by inaction and incompetence counts the same as a death caused by a terrorist act.

I think Trump's future death due to his indifference to life and the consequences of it are more worthy of celebration than Bin Laden's death (which was certainly worthy).

[SkinnyPupp]

What this recent thread has taught me is that there are plenty of well meaning people who are simply prone to the dog whistling, and just buy into that version of reality for whatever reason. Those are the ones who get offended when people aren't sensitive to the guy's death. I don't think they are intentionally being assholes.

I wish we could make them see what's up though. Mike is doing a great at trying, at least.

And to the "how dare you compare him to Bin Laden" that is not the point man. Pick whatever other wicked person from history you want; people are going to use the most infamous names. This isn't just some random guy who has a difference of opinion. Most of us who have differences of opinion can probably get along fine.

[pastarocket]

Your thoughts on a Trump employee with voting power on interest rate changes as part of monetary policy at the U.S. federal reserve bank?


Anyone nervous about their American stock investments now?


https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/busin...ederal-reserve

The Senate voted 48-47 to confirm Miran.

Once sworn in as a Fed governor, Miran will immediately be one of 12 officials voting on interest rate decisions. Miran was nominated to fill the remaining time in former Fed Governor Adriana Kugler’s term, which was set to expire in January 2026. Miran has said he will not resign from his influential post at the White House while he serves on the Fed’s board, instead taking unpaid leave.

The Fed, by law and tradition, has remained independent and nonpartisan. Now for the first time in its 111-year history, a member of the Fed’s Board of Governors is also technically an employee of the president. During his Senate confirmation hearing, Miran said he was advised by an attorney that doing so is legal and that he plans to carry out his duties as a Fed governor independently.


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[VRYALT3R3D]

Originally Posted by supafamous

OTOH, it's estimated that the US would have seen between 130,000 and 200,000 fewer deaths from COVID if the Trump administration had a more robust response to it - remember that they basically treated it as though it was a joke. Those people didn't have to die.

There are so many logical lapses in your posts. "it's estimated"...by who? Brah, did you pull these numbers out of your ass? Provide the source.

Which President created Operation Warp Speed to develop the covid-19 vaccines again? (That Canada also benefited from...)

Cheers,

[Harvey Specter]

Bye First Amendment...

Attorney General Pam Bondi said the Department of Justice is considering bringing charges after a now-fired Office Depot employee refused to print flyers advertising a vigil for Charlie Kirk.

“We’re looking at that,” she said on Fox News on Monday night.

Kirk was assassinated last Wednesday while speaking at Utah Valley University. Police have arrested 22-year-old Tyler Robinson in connection with the shooting. Authorities have released few details about a possible motive. Utah’s governor alleged that Robinson is left-leaning and was “not a fan” of Kirk’s, but declined to give any details.

Bondi appeared on Hannity, where Sean Hannity asked about the limits of freedom of speech. In her response, Bondi cited the case of an Office Depot employee in Michigan, who, in a viral video, refused a customer’s request to print flyers for the vigil. Office Depot issued a statement on Friday saying that “the associate involved is no longer with the organization.”

The attorney general said that the employee’s actions may constitute a prosecutable offense:

I think yesterday or today, Sean, a school board member right here in Virginia had to resign because she said horrible things about Charlie Kirk and that he deserved to die. That’s horrific. It’s free speech, but you shouldn’t be employed anywhere if you’re gonna say that.

And employers, you, have to have an obligation to get rid of people. You need to look at people who are saying horrible things. And they shouldn’t be working with you. Businesses cannot discriminate. If you wanna go in and print posters with Charlie’s pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let them do that. We can prosecute you for that. I have Harmeet Dhillon right now in our civil rights unit looking at that immediately, that Office Depot had done that. We’re looking it up.

It is unclear if Bondi was talking about charges against Office Depot, the former employee, or both.

Nut jobs...

White House senior trade adviser Peter Navarro received backlash on Monday after he demanded that Elon Musk remove anonymous social media users and “foreigners” from his “cesspool” platform X.

Responding to a Musk post which read, “We must fight back or be murdered,” Navarro wrote:

My friend @ElonMusk. How about you start fighting back by cleaning up the cesspool otherwise known as X. No more anonymous posts. No more foreigners swarming your platform and polluting our political discourse. X has become a breeding ground and grooming Academy for the very dark forces. You wanna fight back. Physician, heal itself. Elon, heal X

Navarro quickly received backlash from social media users across the political spectrum.

[Manic!]

America is turning into a shithole.

[westopher]

Turning into? This is complete and outright fascism.
Canada is going to be in serious danger being next to this fucking garbage dump.

[underscore]

Going to be? We've always been getting dragged down being next to that shithole.

[Traum]

In the short term, 1 vote out of 12 is not going to make a difference. If I am understanding things correctly, the Fed needs to vote on important policy decisions, and 1 vote out of 12 is nowhere close to being enough to sway the outcome.

I think the global market is going to see and understand that too, so in the short term, there might only be some minor turbulance. And then their outlook will depend on how the Fed conducts itself with 1 pot stirrer out of 12.

IMO this is different from the SCOTUS bcos the SCOTUS already had a mix of progressive and conservative judges to begin with, and Trump had managed to appoint an additional 3 conservative judges to significantly tip the scale. That is not to say the Fed officials didn't come from different backgrounds and beliefs in economic policies. But as far as I can remember, the Fed has been acting very responsibily in a technocratic manner.

The obvious danger is how many more members Trump (via the currently useless Senate) will manage to appoint into the Fed. The more Trump is able to stack the Fed like he had with the SCOTUS, the more damaging it will be for the credibility of the Fed. But this also brings the outcome of next year's mid terms into question. If the Democrats are able to turn things around and regain control of the House & Senate, then the Fed's contamination can be (will be) stopped.

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Your thoughts on a Trump employee with voting power on interest rate changes as part of monetary policy at the U.S. federal reserve bank?


Anyone nervous about their American stock investments now?


https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/busin...ederal-reserve

The Senate voted 48-47 to confirm Miran.

Once sworn in as a Fed governor, Miran will immediately be one of 12 officials voting on interest rate decisions. Miran was nominated to fill the remaining time in former Fed Governor Adriana Kugler’s term, which was set to expire in January 2026. Miran has said he will not resign from his influential post at the White House while he serves on the Fed’s board, instead taking unpaid leave.

The Fed, by law and tradition, has remained independent and nonpartisan. Now for the first time in its 111-year history, a member of the Fed’s Board of Governors is also technically an employee of the president. During his Senate confirmation hearing, Miran said he was advised by an attorney that doing so is legal and that he plans to carry out his duties as a Fed governor independently.


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