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Old 04-06-2021, 06:17 AM   #4976
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Until an as of yet undiscovered source of clean renewable energy comes in to service gas powered vehicles will be sold and on the roads for decades to come, and it's time people and politicians grew up and did that math. The virtue-signaling green policies that will never come to fruition are nauseating at this point.
I've had this debate with many ppl and you are right.
What's even worse is that look at states like California. During peak energy usage, they have rolling black outs because the energy usage is too great during the middle of a heat wave and everyone is home with their AC's on.

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Nevermind that the planet will be stripped bare by all the resources that's needed to create that many batteries for EVs.
I think this is more likely unless they can find a better way to store energy while using less of the metals that they currently use now.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:23 AM   #4977
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Plug-in Hybrids are great, every Tesla that rolls off the factory floor we have enough battery capacity for 10 plug-ins and saves way more in emissions. We are nowhere close to being able to roll out all EV in the next 30 years, not when people treat range like they do trucks. The more the better even though they won't use even 10% of it on a daily.
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Plug-in Hybrids are great, every Tesla that rolls off the factory floor we have enough battery capacity for 10 plug-ins and saves way more in emissions. We are nowhere close to being able to roll out all EV in the next 30 years, not when people treat range like they do trucks. The more the better even though they won't use even 10% of it on a daily.
It's the mentality.
For over 100 years, people went to the gas station to fill up their tanks, not get 80% of their tanks filled.
Plus, you have the occasional cheapie that wants every last nickel and dime and must get their EV charged to 100% even though it takes an hr to get the last 5% charge.

I have a standard 40 kwh Leaf and never have range anxiety. But I do agree, I would need a ICE vehicle if I was to drive to Kelowna or further.
I've taken the leaf to Whistler, stopped off in Squamish for dinner and a quick charge and all was good.
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The more the better even though they won't use even 10% of it on a daily.
Maybe eventually people will catch on to the fact that it's way cheaper to have a little city car daily and just rent something big for the one or two roadtrips a year that they do.
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Nevermind that the planet will be stripped bare by all the resources that's needed to create that many batteries for EVs.
Never understood why people never discuss this fact. There is definitely a finite resource equation here that does not allow for 100% EV feasibility on the roads, that point is never discussed.

The hybrid model seems to be the most realistic here, we just need to see them lower in cost to see more on the road overall.
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For those of you not on the Automotive Alliance FB group, an FRS that got a VI 2-3 weeks ago got pulled over in east van. $2k tickets and box 1 as usual, but this time Cain is keeping the car for up to 90 days and inspecting it at a shop of his choosing. Car seems like it is basically stock with aftermarket DOT/SAE lights.

Dude definitely pissed off Cain lol.
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The grid may not be able to handle it but majority of Canadians want an electric car. The price of a Tesla Model 2 when released should around the same price as a Civic. Who is going to want a Civic over a Tesla?

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...889637501.html

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The next new vehicle purchase for nearly 70 per cent of Canadians will be an electric model: KPMG in Canada survey. ORONTO, Feb. 25, 2021 /CNW/ - Seven in 10 Canadians (68 per cent) who plan to buy a new vehicle within the next five years are likely to buy an electric vehicle (EV), either pure or hybrid, although the lack of a robust charging infrastructure, battery life and range and the purchase price remain persistent concerns, finds a new survey by KPMG in Canada.

"Canada's automotive industry is nearing the tipping point, with nearly 70 per cent of Canadians indicating that they're looking to buy an electric vehicle not in a decade's time but in the next five years," says Peter Hatges, Partner, National Sector Leader, Automotive, KPMG in Canada. "Our poll research illustrates huge consumer demand in Canada for EVs, putting the onus on manufacturers and governments alike to shift gears not only to meet the expected surge in EV sales but to invest heavily in the necessary infrastructure."

Ford is going all electric in Europe by 2030.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/ford-is...2030-1.5312198

Audi going all electric by 2030.

https://driving.ca/audi/auto-news/ne...ustion-engines

Jaguar all electric by 2025
https://driving.ca/jaguar/auto-news/...-range-by-2030

Many other companies are doing the same.

By 2035 the only people buying gas cars are going to be people that can't afford an electric car. By 2050 the only people buying gas cars are going to be the rich who can afford to run and maintain them.
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For those of you not on the Automotive Alliance FB group, an FRS that got a VI 2-3 weeks ago got pulled over in east van. $2k tickets and box 1 as usual, but this time Cain is keeping the car for up to 90 days and inspecting it at a shop of his choosing. Car seems like it is basically stock with aftermarket DOT/SAE lights.

Dude definitely pissed off Cain lol.
Let's see the FRS. I bet it's redonk.
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Let's see the FRS. I bet it's redonk.
You are correct.

Aftermarket lighting, CF Hood, Aftermarket Exhaust is no where near stock. It's a VI magnet.
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You are correct.

Aftermarket lighting, CF Hood, Aftermarket Exhaust is no where near stock. It's a VI magnet.
I am not 100% certain, but it might have a turbo under the hood too.

It never ceases to amaze me how "pretty much stock" a car is when someone says that...

But I will say that aesthetically, the car is nicely done up.
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It's the mentality.
For over 100 years, people went to the gas station to fill up their tanks, not get 80% of their tanks filled.
Plus, you have the occasional cheapie that wants every last nickel and dime and must get their EV charged to 100% even though it takes an hr to get the last 5% charge.
Going off on a tangent for this thread, but reminds me of cellphone charging. Who else starts getting battery anxiety when their phone hits below 70% charge like I do?
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That's tamer than I thought...

Smoked tails?
Cop take his plates?
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I see a Black ICE air freshener I bet those tail lights are more smoked than my salmon.

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It's been years since I got a VI but when I got box 1'd the copper took my plates since the car is immediately no longer road legal
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That's tamer than I thought...

Smoked tails?
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I see a Black ICE air freshener I bet those tail lights are more smoked than my salmon.
Yeah it's tamer than what I thought.

I mean I was picturing a rocket bunny monstrosity with a chassis mount wing, and blast pipes.

The headlights look like OEM projectors that are painted inside?

I'd be intrigued if the tail lights are just smoked, or what the deal is. Suspension looks stock, and wheels are stock.
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Yeah it's tamer than what I thought.

I mean I was picturing a rocket bunny monstrosity with a chassis mount wing, and blast pipes.

The headlights look like OEM projectors that are painted inside?

I'd be intrigued if the tail lights are just smoked, or what the deal is. Suspension looks stock, and wheels are stock.
Guy is looking for OEM parts on FB FRS page.

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If that’s the FRS I see from time to time the exhaust is obnoxious af
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Did it have a huge wing before?
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It's a "DEZOD", they market it as the loudest exhaust for the FRS. Pair it with a header you're going deaf.
How the heck did he pass his first VI then?

LOL, there was so much arguing on FB that his headlights and taillights were just black housing, now they are smoked?
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Where do all these kids get this kind of money? He's parting out a wack load of parts on FB, that must be an old pic of the car in the earlier photo, and he's even got a Turbo on it.
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