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Old 10-18-2018, 07:33 PM   #526
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:36 PM   #527
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One of my friends didn't get a VI but got impounded and an evading ticket when he wasn't even going excessive and pulled over to a safe spot. They're having a pretty hard crackdown in Vancouver.
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:45 PM   #528
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seems like word is spreading quick and there's new members on here or lurkers posting now
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Old 10-18-2018, 07:46 PM   #529
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They said there is corrosion on my fenders from rubbing. 100% false
Illegal aftermarket seatbelts. 100% false
Modified exhaust. True, l guess that’s good enough from what I read above.
Either way. I guess car is going back to stock. My time is too fucking valuable for this shit.
It wasn't cain that issued it, but he came as the supervisor. I guess the car was so dangerous he needed backup.
that really sucks dude, the car looked pretty safe to me... had to come back on revscene to express my disappointment. what if your fenders were corroded from rust and your car was stock height?
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There isn't a spec of corrosion or paint rub on this car. It sucks to be straight up lied to and not be able to do anything.
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Old 10-18-2018, 08:39 PM   #534
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Has anyone with a legitimate beef actually filed a complaint?

https://vancouver.ca/police/organiza...omplaints.html
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I’ll be filing one. Thanks for the link.
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Just a suggestion, but perhaps someone (preferably with a legal background so it sounds extra official) should draft up a letter that everyone can copy and paste and straight up just email into the VPD chief complaining about the harassment and profiling and the potential for kickbacks from being able to specify where a car goes without rationale? Mention the media and harassment by Cain in particular?

Guaranteed the Chief’s email is the standard VPD email naming scheme so it would be Adam.Palmer@vpd.ca... if it’s copy and pasted as text it won’t get screened for attachments, no bitching no whining no swearing or name calling just everyone sending the same letter to him... I imagine after a few hundred emails it will get his attention enough that he has to do something about it.

Again, only a suggestion, simple but most likely very effective. He also has a twitter account @ChiefPalmer so wouldn’t hurt to spam the same letter there?
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attached the youtube where the officer is miss interpreting the mva and that if it goes to court all of the vi would get tossed
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There isn't a spec of corrosion or paint rub on this car. It sucks to be straight up lied to and not be able to do anything.
You know they're targeting modified cars cause if they really gave a shit about safety, they'd be pulling over every rust bucket pos with bald tires and a cracked windshield. When's the last time you've seen a cop bust a U turn to ticket some bonehead with his lights off, when it's past dusk?
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also the more complaints the more likely he'll take action need community involvement with this abuse of power add all those councillors looking for seats this weekend and mayoral candidates. u want action quick no one wants bad press
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Thanks for this, but it's turning into serious business, there's over 170 members as of now


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Old 10-18-2018, 09:08 PM   #541
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i'd like to take a walk though the VPD employee lot - just to double check that everybody has OEM exhaust hangers
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Just a suggestion, but perhaps someone (preferably with a legal background so it sounds extra official) should draft up a letter that everyone can copy and paste and straight up just email into the VPD chief complaining about the harassment and profiling and the potential for kickbacks from being able to specify where a car goes without rationale? Mention the media and harassment by Cain in particular?

If they are suggesting that you take the car back to the dealer, I don't think you should mention the kickback thing.
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what is the best way to bring attention/fix this issue as a community ?

i feel like the end goal would be getting the government to revise the MVA regarding modified cars, preventing unlawful/unwarranted VI's...
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If they aren't in a projector system then you're just a twat and you deserve the ticket/VI. If they're in a projector system with the beam projecting properly you're fine.
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what is the best way to bring attention/fix this issue as a community ?

i feel like the end goal would be getting the government to revise the MVA regarding modified cars, preventing unlawful/unwarranted VI's...
I don't think there's a single best way to do this.

Instead, I'd imagine a campaign through bombardment on multiple channels, demonstrated by as many victims as possible, would work best.

I'm reminded of when TV shows used to get cancelled and rabid fans would mail things to TV studios to demonstrate truly how many people want their show resurrected. Over 20 tons of nuts were shipped to CBS as part of a campaign to save the post-apocalyptic series Jericho.

For instance:
  1. tweeting VPD Chief Palmer (@ChiefPalmer)
  2. Submitting a freedom of information request
  3. contacting McLaughlin On Your Side to describe the issue
  4. finding every email address on VPD's web site and BCC'ing them in a single email

Yes, a lot of it will annoy or irritate the recipient, but it'll also bring this issue to light to more people. FOI and emailing every VPD email address would have more rank and file and administrative city staff aware of this issue, which will have them asking questions to others why they keep getting these same requests. It has the ability to reach far beyond any auto enthusiast to get them talking; to have it register in their minds.

Beyond that, it helps to give yourself credibility. Aside from having pictures to prove your innocence contrasted to your quoted MVA regulations, you guys gotta just straight up talk like a Harvard-educated white man. I've been on RS for a long time, read a lot, so I'm used to how casual you guys post. But that casual talk doesn't help offer credibility when it counts, like for issues like this. That means cut the swearing, bullet your arguments, make concise points, and check your spelling/grammar.

Think about it like you're the manager sifting through resumes. You go through dozens, maybe hundreds for an open position. It's tiresome. You'll take any mistake in that cover letter or resume to exclude that person cause you know there's a lot more to sift through. That means fixing your typos and not using heatscore email addresses or IG handles (surprise, sending an email from 69mackdaddyluvs2fap@gmail.com doesn't help you at all). Same principle would apply to this. You don't want to give them any margin, inch, or excuse to write you off.

Just my 0.02.

edit: If you guys do start a organized campaign, I definitely wouldn't do it in this thread. I'd start a new one to focus on that topic specifically vs. this thread which seems to go several different directions.
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Out of curiosity, let's say the person who started all this with the officer finally apologized as stated from a couple of posts back (that according the to grapevine he did) and it's still happening. What is the end game for the officers involved in this spike? Is it to completely eradicate the modified cars from the streets?
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