Canadian politics thread

[pastarocket]

Carney mentioned to the media that he imposed a deadline for his government to get a trade agreement done by July 21st with the U.S.

-gonna be very interesting to see what kind of agreement that Canada gets in negotiation's with TACO's team.

Carney told reporters recently that rescinding the DST is part of the broader negotiations with the Americans.

Is our PM playing chess to try to make a checkmate move on Cheeto? Canada is trying to convince the American trade negotiation team and TACO to rescind the tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber?

Give up a chess piece like the Digital Services tax in order to get a better chess piece from TACO?

Maybe TACO thinks that he is going to win this chess match of a trade negotiation when in fact that he's actually playing checkers?

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Imagine celebrating the speculation of cost savings

Celebrate when something actually happens bra..

You should get some help before your delusions and paranoia cause you to fire bomb Jenny Kwan's office. If the govt is as poorly run as you say it is there's probably a 6-12 month wait for the help you need.

Where exactly am I celebrating in my post? This news is neither a celebration or a criticism - it's reporting on what the gov't is up to and shouldn't a be a surprise to anyone who's been following his public statements (but it's going to be a surprise to a lot of people who didn't think about how he was going to pay for things).

I've already expressed concern about Carney's level of (over)confidence in his initiatives and how he thinks he can make it all work. Unlike you I'm willing AND able to discuss policy points in detail, think about how something may or may not work, and consider the context in which something happens. I don't spend all day making like Grandpa Simpson raging at the clouds.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Carney mentioned to the media that he imposed a deadline for his government to get a trade agreement done by July 21st with the U.S.

Unless I'm missing something that was a total unforced error by Carney - he's smarter than that but still agreed to a date on something that he couldn't control.

[Hondaracer]

All your posts are just speculation

You’re making assumptions things are going to go one way or another. Nothing has happened yet, nothing tangible has changed. Even the internal trade barriers, like the articles I’ve already posted, no one has guidance on how this works. No one has laid out anything but a basic frame work. Success!

Year 11 of this regime, month what? 7 of Carney being PM? and we’re cutting everything and running bigger deficits

[Eff-1]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Give up a chess piece like the Digital Services tax in order to get a better chess piece from TACO?

Exactly. I think it's a calculated move to get the US back to the bargaining table so that we can sort out much larger issues like steel/aluminum, tariffs and softwood lumber.

If Carney gets a deal done that alleviates the pressure on those three (significantly more important) issues for Canada, nobody will give a fuck about the DST being dropped.

If on the other hand, a deal doesn't get done, then Carney will certainly face criticism that his approach didn't work.

We shall see.

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Manic!

In Canada, the rate of homelessness is at least 13 people experiencing homelessness for every 10,000 people.

So we are just above Portugal.

That Iceland stat is interesting, for a country so cold, they provide no housing to the homeless? They just live on the street?

I'm impressed with my Irish people, look at us, taking care of everyone.

[68style]

Originally Posted by supafamous

Missed amongst all the complaining from Honda is actual real news worthy of discussion...the bold part is the relevant part.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ott...cuts-1.7579022



Public service workers union is already not happy about it: https://psacunion.ca/psac-raises-ala...ment-announces

I've been waiting for this ball to drop for a while as the budget numbers look pretty bad from a deficit standpoint if we don't cut staffing/programs. Carney's making some pretty bold long term bets that are really expensive and he's betting the house on them providing the ROI that Canada needs but if he can't shrink the public service the deficit is going to look awfully messy for the next 3-6 years.

This is for real and already in full swing, lots of peeps I used to work with or do work in the service are getting workforce adjustment notices already… Immigration Canada that evaluates immigrants applications was absolutely gutted the other day like 75% of the Vancouver office given reassignment notices or early retirement offers.

15% of an entire workforce is a shit tonne of people.

[Hondaracer]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

That Iceland stat is interesting, for a country so cold, they provide no housing to the homeless? They just live on the street?

I'm impressed with my Irish people, look at us, taking care of everyone.

The population of Iceland is only 393,000

393,000/10,000

There’s not even 40 homeless people in the entire country

[mikemhg]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

The population of Iceland is only 393,000

393,000/10,000

There’s not even 40 homeless people in the entire country

Wouldn't that make it even easier to house them then?

[Hondaracer]

You’d think so, I’m sure it’s something like here where they don’t want to be in a shelter etc.

However given that number you could build a fancy condo for each one of them and it would still cost shit all

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by 68style

This is for real and already in full swing, lots of peeps I used to work with or do work in the service are getting workforce adjustment notices already… Immigration Canada that evaluates immigrants applications was absolutely gutted the other day like 75% of the Vancouver office given reassignment notices or early retirement offers.

15% of an entire workforce is a shit tonne of people.

But but but Honda says all my posts are speculation and that nothing has happened yet so there's nothing to talk about so who are we to believe? As is normal I'm sure he has someone he knows who works there who has an opinion that agrees with his so there's 2 data points versus your 1 obviously in the tank for the Libs opinion.

[Hondaracer]

Yea, me VS you two guys, two anecdotes VS one, you’re right. lol

[CivicBlues]

Iceland's got geothermal vents the homeless can sit on to keep warm.

Ireland has no homeless living on the streets? LOL Just took a walk around Dublin a month ago - there's plenty of them, unless they all go to a shelter at night which I doubt.

[Badhobz]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

The population of Iceland is only 393,000

393,000/10,000

There’s not even 40 homeless people in the entire country

pssshhh thats nothing bro. 1 billion chinese. not a single homeless (we shot them all)

would you like our brand of communism now or later?

[68style]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Yea, me VS you two guys, two anecdotes VS one, you’re right. lol

It’s not an anecdote? I’m literally in the fed service just on relocation leave. My friends wife is a manager at Immigration Canada.

[VRYALT3R3D]

https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/202...tarting-aug-1/


Potential 35% tariff starting Aug 1st.

[68style]

Trumps 200 deals by July promise isn’t looking too good considering he’s at 3 so far… literally a loon old man shaking his fist at clouds, what a joke.

[westopher]

"There will be no tariff if Canada, or companies within your country, decide to manufacture product within the United States," the letter reads.

lol needs to be more vague. One company? 5? All of them?
Just start sending anything that pollutes waterways down to US for manufacture I guess.

[supafamous]

Originally Posted by 68style

Trumps 200 deals by July promise isn’t looking too good considering he’s at 3 so far… literally a loon old man shaking his fist at clouds, what a joke.

3 gives him too much credit as 1 of them (China) is merely a partial rollback of the tariffs he put on China (can't take credit for a mess he created) and he didn't actually gain anything from China while another (Britain) is just a memorandum of understanding (and also just a rollback). The last one, Vietnam, is a net loss as well but I'll give him credit for it since the bar is so low. He agreed to Vietnam's offer of no tariffs which was already on offer in his first term and then put a 20% tariff on Vietnam.

He's not actually serious about making trade deals - he just really wants tariffs because he truly believes that trade deficits are bad.

[Eff-1]

honestly.

[Hondaracer]

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...tner-violence/

Man who almost killed wife initially gets found guilty on numerous assault charges including choking her out

Instantly released, goes on to publicly murder her the same day.

Canadurrrrrr

[Jason00S2000]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Instantly released, goes on to publicly murder her the same day.

Canadurrrrrr

She should have been allowed to CCW. RIP poor lady.

[VRYALT3R3D]

Originally Posted by supafamous

3 gives him too much credit as 1 of them (China) is merely a partial rollback of the tariffs he put on China (can't take credit for a mess he created) and he didn't actually gain anything from China while another (Britain) is just a memorandum of understanding (and also just a rollback). The last one, Vietnam, is a net loss as well but I'll give him credit for it since the bar is so low. He agreed to Vietnam's offer of no tariffs which was already on offer in his first term and then put a 20% tariff on Vietnam.

He's not actually serious about making trade deals - he just really wants tariffs because he truly believes that trade deficits are bad.

Do you even understand what is going on with these trade deals or its intended goals?

The purpose of Trump's trade deal with Viatnam was to set the framework to target transshipments(from China) in Asia while maintaining the prevailing benefits of cross-border commerce.

[Badhobz]

^look lady, i work in shipping and ill tell you right now; no amount of transshipment from Vietnam can cover the amount of trade volumes that goes from China to the USA

trans shipments are also extremely expensive. Who's going to absorb these costs? you add it to the consumers and youre basically adding another tariff of 20%.

Plus there are much easier ways to skirt around tariffs for Chinese manufacturing. you just finish your products in another country and slap on a made in Turkey, or whatever label. Thats what we've been doing with furniture to get around that Canadian funiture tariff.

[68style]

I know what I’m getting Badhobz for Christmas this year: