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spoon.ek9 06-15-2019 05:29 PM

dunno if this link will work but:

https://scontent.fyvr4-1.fna.fbcdn.n...d8&oe=5D83F313

whitev70r 06-17-2019 07:29 AM

Hmmm ... a bit too much, a bit too long. i see a buyout in the future. I see a Phaneuf type of buyout in year 6 or 7.

Karlsson re-signing with Sharks on eight-year deal.

According to TSN Hockey Insiders Pierre LeBrun and Bob McKenzie, the San Jose Sharks have reached an eight-year contract with the defenceman which will be worth roughly $11.5 million per season - making him the league's third-highest paid player.

mb_ 06-17-2019 07:51 AM

Hmm I think for EK65, that's worth it. I would consider him another level type of player compared to Phaneuf. IMO Phaneuf had potential early on in his career but he was never able to live up to the hype he had when he was in juniors. They also play a different kind of game.

whitev70r 06-17-2019 10:24 AM

Dallas Eakin returns to NHL head coaching with the Ducks.

https://www.tsn.ca/anaheim-ducks-nam...oach-1.1323934

pastarocket 06-17-2019 10:58 AM

What do you guys think about Benning contacting Jake Gardiner and Tyler Meyer's agent about the d-men's availability?

Gardiner and Tyler Mylers are on JB's radar.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...s-free-agency/

highfive 06-17-2019 01:44 PM

Myers is coming here I bet. Benning was the one who shouted him in buffalo lol

spoon.ek9 06-17-2019 02:10 PM

there was talk on the radio about the canucks and edler. they still haven't reached an agreement which would suggest there's something both parties aren't willing to compromise on. edler obviously wants to stay and the canucks do want him in this organization. the best guess here is that canucks want don't want to offer protection from the expansion draft for edler. as an organization, it's logical to deny such protection for a player that is well into his final years (despite our emotional attachment).

it wouldn't be surprising to see 2-3 new defensemen for next season.

Jmac 06-17-2019 04:30 PM

People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

Razor Ramon HG 06-17-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8951195)
there was talk on the radio about the canucks and edler. they still haven't reached an agreement which would suggest there's something both parties aren't willing to compromise on. edler obviously wants to stay and the canucks do want him in this organization. the best guess here is that canucks want don't want to offer protection from the expansion draft for edler. as an organization, it's logical to deny such protection for a player that is well into his final years (despite our emotional attachment).

it wouldn't be surprising to see 2-3 new defensemen for next season.

If Edler leaves, the last member of the 2011 playoff roster (not really counting Tanev) will have all moved on.

Time flies by. Still feels like yesterday.

Hondaracer 06-17-2019 04:46 PM

If elder walks Jb should be fired.

What is that, the 3rd or 4th asset that has walked for nothing?

Jmac 06-17-2019 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8951214)
If elder walks Jb should be fired.

What is that, the 3rd or 4th asset that has walked for nothing?

Vrbata for nothing after a 30-goal season
Hamhuis for nothing as a top 4 dman
Miller for nothing as the team’s starting goalie
Edler for nothing as the team’s best defenseman

murd0c 06-17-2019 08:18 PM

fuck yes my buddy won tickets for the draft on Friday and I is can't wait

RiceIntegraRS 06-17-2019 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8951212)
People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

Myers? No way. For the right price id sign Gardiner. But out of alll the rumours circling i would probably want Colin Miller and Shayne Gostisbhere. Colin Miller being the guy that i can see being as easily obtainable.

AzNightmare 06-17-2019 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8951215)
Vrbata for nothing after a 30-goal season
Hamhuis for nothing as a top 4 dman
Miller for nothing as the team’s starting goalie
Edler for nothing as the team’s best defenseman

Hamhuis' situation was trash though, Aquallini was was being petty and nixed the trade.

JesseBlue 06-17-2019 09:36 PM

Myers at 4 mil sure. No thanks to Gardiner. But rather have edler for 6

6thGear. 06-17-2019 10:44 PM

Too bad Canucks weren't in a position to trade for Trouba

Jmac 06-18-2019 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 8951234)
Myers at 4 mil sure. No thanks to Gardiner. But rather have edler for 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiceIntegraRS (Post 8951228)
Myers? No way. For the right price id sign Gardiner. But out of alll the rumours circling i would probably want Colin Miller and Shayne Gostisbhere. Colin Miller being the guy that i can see being as easily obtainable.


68style 06-18-2019 09:07 AM

I would not consider either of those dmen for 6-7 million... forget it...

The only thing Myers is consistent at is being totally inconsistent, he also plays like he's 5'7" not 6'7"

Karlsson isn't worth $11.5 either, he is so overhyped... what teams has he helped win anything in his career? Puts up points in the regular season... and then gets a leg injury every playoffs... there was an interesting article on the Athletic discussing what Marner's contract as well as what a contract for Binnington would look like with a lack of comparables (Matt Murray being the closest one) and doing an analysis on their WAR and value added to the team and the numbers were quite insightful into what a player is actually "worth" and also factored in their age and what their RFA eligibility was in relation to that, etc.

Long story short, teams overpaying for guys who just do not have the same amount of impact that their salary dollars are suggesting they do are going to be in a lot of trouble in the future. This all started with Dumbass in Toronto being quoted saying it was "okay" to overpay Nylander about a mill a season... it's gonna come back to bite him huge down the road nevermind the fact the Leafs had absolutely zero actual need for him as a player with their forward group.

bobbinka 06-18-2019 10:37 AM

Winnipeg shopping ehlers??

Bouncing Bettys 06-18-2019 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8951261)
This all started with Dumbass in Toronto being quoted saying it was "okay" to overpay Nylander about a mill a season... it's gonna come back to bite him huge down the road nevermind the fact the Leafs had absolutely zero actual need for him as a player with their forward group.

You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

highfive 06-18-2019 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8951212)
People act like Gardiner and Myers aren’t going to want NMCs for the expansion draft.

Edler wants 3 x $6M with an NMC. I’ll take that all day every day over Gardiner or Myers at 6 x $6M with an NMC (at least for the first couple of seasons).

Benning hands out these garbage contracts to garbage players like Sbisa, Gudbranson, Eriksson, Beagle, Sutter, etc. with next to no negotiation then plays hardball with actual good core players already on the team like Horvat, Tanev, Boeser, and Edler. It’s fucking ridiculous

I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?

whitev70r 06-18-2019 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8951283)
You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

Dumbest promise ever ... say that you had your shoe laces crossed or fingers crossed behind your back when you made that promise and trade/give Nylander away ... get some cap space and sign Marner.

68style 06-18-2019 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8951283)
You mean Dubas? I could be wrong, but I don't recall him ever saying that. He did say he would never trade Nylander as long as he GM, which many criticized him for.

I'm trying to find it, I know I read it... try again later tonight... :badpokerface:

68style 06-18-2019 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8951289)
I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?

It's cuz Eriksson's contract loses its full NTC in the last 2 years, so he can be moved in 20-21 whereas Lucic's contract is full NTC up until 21-22

Jmac 06-18-2019 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8951289)
I'm lost. Radio keep saying you don't need to protect Eriksson but his contract runs to 21-22. do we need to protect him? I thought the whole point of lucic and eriksson didn't work cuz of lucic's extra year?

Sutter will be gone by then, who do we protect by Seattles draft?

We don’t need to protect Eriksson. We would need to protect Lucic (unless he waives his NMC for the expansion draft).


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