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6thGear. 07-02-2019 07:50 PM

Myers already bolstered the D and miles ahead of Hutton and Poiliet. Not sure why some of you are complaining. lol

spoon.ek9 07-02-2019 08:51 PM

it's a heck of a lot of judgment on a guy who hasn't played a single minute for us yet lol. But I guess that's all we can do with our summer until hockey season starts..

sonick 07-02-2019 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 6thGear. (Post 8952493)
Myers already bolstered the D and miles ahead of Hutton and Poiliet. Not sure why some of you are complaining. lol

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8952497)
it's a heck of a lot of judgment on a guy who hasn't played a single minute for us yet lol. But I guess that's all we can do with our summer until hockey season starts..

Exactly. I have the same feelings and memories of the same comments about gudbranson when he came to the Canucks as with Myers... Hoping the feelings are unwarranted...

6thGear. 07-03-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8952497)
it's a heck of a lot of judgment on a guy who hasn't played a single minute for us yet lol. But I guess that's all we can do with our summer until hockey season starts..

True that. Only time will tell.

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Originally Posted by sonick (Post 8952511)
Exactly. I have the same feelings and memories of the same comments about gudbranson when he came to the Canucks as with Myers... Hoping the feelings are unwarranted...

Different situation, team, city, teammates can change the players outcome. Gudbranson did fine before coming here and after he left. Maybe it's just Vancouver. lol

68style 07-03-2019 07:02 AM

I don’t think either of those apply (before here / afterwards) for Gudbranson, he was just like Myers as in he was touted to be a big guy that’s tough to play against and can use his size with a good hard shot... zero of those things were actually true from Gudbranson except the size part and I suspect / fear the same will be said of Myers.

Expresso 07-03-2019 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 6thGear. (Post 8952530)
True that. Only time will tell.

Different situation, team, city, teammates can change the players outcome. Gudbranson did fine before coming here and after he left. Maybe it's just Vancouver. lol

Even before Gudbrandson got here his defensive analytics were very poor and they ended up being right. Myers defensive analytics aren't very good either, but he does bring other things to the table like offense.

Jmac 07-03-2019 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8952531)
I don’t think either of those apply (before here / afterwards) for Gudbranson, he was just like Myers as in he was touted to be a big guy that’s tough to play against and can use his size with a good hard shot... zero of those things were actually true from Gudbranson except the size part and I suspect / fear the same will be said of Myers.

Who is saying these things about Myers?

Myers is like the polar opposite of Gudbranson in terms of style of play.

RiceIntegraRS 07-03-2019 11:59 AM

If anyone who thinks Myers is gonna be this guy thats hard to play against is gonna be seriously disapointed. The knock on him is that he doesnt use his size like he should. But in the end hes a pretty skinny dude. 6'8" 229lbs? for comparison Tryamkin is 6'7" 265lbs.

Anyways im excited for the season. I think we did improve in all areas. Offence since Petey will only improve, Boeser will have a full training camp so he will improve among others. Defence dramatically got better over last season, not cause of Myers cause we have Hughes Full time now. Hughes,Myers,Benn > Pouliot,Gudbranson,Hutton. Gotta also factor in that alot of the teams in our division got worse in the off season not better. I think we have a good chance to make the playoffs if we stay healthy

68style 07-03-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8952552)
Who is saying these things about Myers?

Myers is like the polar opposite of Gudbranson in terms of style of play.

All the focus is on his size, which he NEVER EVER uses... and that's always been the focus with Gudbranson as well... his SIZE omg he's going to be so good in the right system blah blah

Benning: "I just felt like it’s a great fit for our group. . . because he can play today’s style of game because of his skating. And he’s six-foot-eight. He makes us a better team."

Benning again: "He gets up and down the ice with ease, has incredible size and reach (6-foot-8, 229 pounds), but most importantly he's a character player and role model that our younger players can emulate."

They may not play the same style at all, but the expectations of using size to separate opponents from the puck/break up plays are identical and an expectation of jumping in from an offensive standpoint too. Obviously Myers is going to produce more points than Gudbranson without even trying, but they are both completely incompetent in regards to spacing/predicting plays on defence in their own zone and no amount of "size" can ever make up for that.

Look what was said after Gudbranson was traded and upon his re-signing:
"He can move the puck, and he kind of came into his own this year in Florida," Benning said. "… He gives us size (6-foot-5, 216 pounds) and strength, he can make a good first pass, he has real hard shot, he can hammer it from the back end, and he's a high-character person."

"Erik is an important part of our team and provides a physical element to our blueline," said Benning. "His leadership qualities help us as we continue to integrate younger players in our lineup. He is a quality person, a great teammate, outstanding in the community and we are excited to have him as part of our team moving forward."

Unless Benning is using copy & paste for his dman signing quotations, could swap either name in there back and forth.



As an aside, Benning's comment about Gudbranson making a good first pass are super super funny in retrospect considering he iced the puck most of the time and constantly missed forwards with breakout passes hahaha

FN-2199 07-03-2019 12:16 PM

There's no doubt that Myers will provide an improvement on the blue line, but only for scoring. Another D-man that can jack up 30+ points and create offensive plays? Awesome.
Defensively, however, he's not great. Statistically he made the Jets worse, and struggled to block shots and prevent slot entries-- this may be due to the fact that he played with Kulikov who is garbage, but we'll see when he's out here with us...

Hopefully his offensive strengths outweigh his defensive weaknesses and justifies the top 4 over-payment; I do welcome the additional firepower, and I hope he pans out when Hughes gets into the lineup!

spoon.ek9 07-03-2019 08:29 PM

From all these comments, it reminds me of how we brought in Ehrhoff. Now, don't get me wrong I'm not saying they're the same caliber player. Just remember that we took on Ehrhoff with the expectation of both added offense on the back end and disappointment in the defensive zone.

All the mistakes that were made by the pairing of Edler and Ehrhoff were somewhat overshadowed by their success offensively. You knew there was a good chance they'd score on the PP but also knew they'd probably fuck it up going the other way lol.

It'll all depends on who Myers plays with and if they can find balance/chemistry. Maybe Hughes? Maybe a solid defensive partner like Tanev? who knows..

punkwax 07-03-2019 08:49 PM

A friend sent me this link earlier today pointing to Hughes: https://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2019...-silver-lining

Side note regarding RiceIntegras’ playoff comment, I sure hope so. The company I work for signed a 5 year contract for a box suite that expires after this season and I’m not sure we’ll renew. My boss hasn’t got to watch a playoff game from the suite yet. We’re hoping that changes this year!

whitev70r 07-03-2019 09:06 PM

It's all a crapshoot ... he could turn out like Ehrhoff or he could turn out like Gudbranson.

6thGear. 07-03-2019 09:08 PM

If the Canucks rely on Myers to be the anchor then he's already set up for failure. If he can eat up minutes and take the load off Edler and Tanev to reduce possible injuries then the D core is in good shape.

punkwax 07-03-2019 09:31 PM

I hate to be captain obvious but Myers isn’t the # 1 anchor we’ve been waiting so long for and his contract reflects that. IMO he’s a solid addition that’ll help spread the workload for sure.

If he can stay healthy I hope he proves the early naysayers wrong.

2 Calder trophy winners on the team now if that means anything :badpokerface:

winson604 07-04-2019 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8952556)
he has real hard shot, he can hammer it from the back end


68style 07-04-2019 09:34 AM

I honestly can't remember a single time I saw Gudbranson take a slapshot on net in a game.

F3 07-04-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FN-2199 (Post 8952559)
There's no doubt that Myers will provide an improvement on the blue line, but only for scoring. Another D-man that can jack up 30+ points and create offensive plays? Awesome.
Defensively, however, he's not great. Statistically he made the Jets worse, and struggled to block shots and prevent slot entries-- this may be due to the fact that he played with Kulikov who is garbage, but we'll see when he's out here with us...

Hopefully his offensive strengths outweigh his defensive weaknesses and justifies the top 4 over-payment; I do welcome the additional firepower, and I hope he pans out when Hughes gets into the lineup!

Not sure why people are expecting a lot of offense from myers. If you take out his rookie season he's roughly a 30 point player. His ppg last year was pretty much the same as biega's.

Liquid_o2 07-04-2019 10:50 AM

30 points would be great from Myers if he is able to deliver that on a consistent basis. A full season of Myers and Hughes is really going to improve scoring from the blueline. We have been one of the worst teams in recent years in that regard.

Mike Oxbig 07-04-2019 03:16 PM

gino odjick help ferland with alcohol abuse before? ferland should police petterson and boeser on the first line

lucic fail to police for mcdavid :alone:

FN-2199 07-04-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by F3 (Post 8952653)
Not sure why people are expecting a lot of offense from myers. If you take out his rookie season he's roughly a 30 point player. His ppg last year was pretty much the same as biega's.

Edler put up 34 points. No other Dman came close (Stretcher with 23).
I'm not expecting a lot of offense, but that's all Myers has going for him. Any additional offense will be a breath of fresh air, but at an overpayment.

sonick 07-04-2019 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8952318)
Myers, Benn, and Ferland gonna sign tmw morning

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Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8952693)
gino odjick help ferland with alcohol abuse before? ferland should police petterson and boeser on the first line

lucic fail to police for mcdavid :alone:

What's the hold up with Ferland?

Is the alcoholic thing with Ferland actual rumour out there or just racial profiling?

Mike Oxbig 07-05-2019 09:39 AM

its true according to canucks reddit

we need the aboriginal grit

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