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Old 12-17-2021, 08:40 PM   #13701
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was trying to stay hopeful i'd be able to visit asia this spring without buncha red tapes

grandmom's health has been on a decline since

absolutely unacceptable we'll be robbed another chinese new year 3 times in a row

if they wanna drop the bomb on us a week before christmas they better be on the ball with boosters and rapid tests...guess i'm asking too much
Was trying to convince my mom to go to China for CNY but the idea of a month of quarantine is a huge turn off, even if we're able to do it at home
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Lol I don’t agree with the measures but they’re not expecting different results. They’re expecting the same results - flattening the curve. Look up the data yourself.

Honestly wish we go Austria style and lockdown unvaccinated.
The non vaxxed aren't the issue; if they aren't allowed out - who do you think is spreading the koots? If you need three shots to prevent small pox, but you still get small pox, then a discussion should be had about the shots. I'm jabbed but I still stay away from people - especially zealots that want to lock people up that don't think acute like them.

Still median age of 83 for deaths in BC with a 99.97% survival rate. StatsCan posted that the first wave deaths were no different than influenza rates since 2016.

Cornell - 97% vax rate and now 900 cases of CV. Better get your boosters and still blame non-vaxxed people. lol.

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Ah the old "death rate" argument, nice to see people bringing up the classics once in a while
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You know, it takes such a basic understanding of math to realize that 900 people being sick with Covid out of 97% of the population that's vaccinated isn't very much.

But 100 people out of 3% of the population that isn't vaccinated is actually quite a lot.

I mean, I'm an English Lit major that worked as a barista, and even I can figure out the meaning behind those numbers. Apparently none of the people arguing against vaccine efficacy can though?
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Ah the old "death rate" argument, nice to see people bringing up the classics once in a while
So, what's the current fear? 99.97% you'll be around to tell us.
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So, what's the current fear? 99.97% you'll be around to tell us.
It's been explained many times why it's bad to have thousands of people needing hospital care all at the same time all over the world. Like in April 2020 this was explained. All efforts of mitigation - including vaccination - is to keep this number down.
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FYI . If anybody is looking to get booster done sooner. just got back from states. Got it done at Walgreens before my trip. Although I had to drive 6 hours to Pasco to get it done.
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got my booster invite at 12:01am last night 6 months to the day

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i know people want things to go faster - but that's pretty fast.
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got my booster invite at 12:01am last night 6 months to the day

appt on wednesday

i know people want things to go faster - but that's pretty fast.
IIRC, you got the AZ vaccine in the past, right?

The AZ vaccinated people are getting fast tracked for the latest round of mRNA boosters. By comparison purely from an anecdotal perspective, it seems to me that people who had the mRNA vaccines for their first 2 doses are seeing longer delays than before.
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IIRC, you got the AZ vaccine in the past, right?

The AZ vaccinated people are getting fast tracked for the latest round of mRNA boosters. By comparison purely from an anecdotal perspective, it seems to me that people who had the mRNA vaccines for their first 2 doses are seeing longer delays than before.

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Looks like NFL has decided to give up and just let covid run through the league, hoping that most cases are asymptomatic and recover within a week. Should be interesting to observe what comes of this!
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They have been hinting at something like this, finally some logic in this world
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It will be interesting to observe, and may influence how other leagues and even countries with >90% vaccination rates deal with covid.

If this proves to be successful, it could lead to other policies doing the same, and we're going to start treating covid like an endemic disease.

This ain't common sense though, it's 100% pure capitalism
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It's been explained many times why it's bad to have thousands of people needing hospital care all at the same time all over the world. Like in April 2020 this was explained. All efforts of mitigation - including vaccination - is to keep this number down.
Oh, the old 'don't burden the healthcare' argument. Well, our healthcare has been over burdened for decades, with national publications doing several articles about it - including Macleans and every Provincial paper. Go ahead, look it up; it's woke to throw words, but the reality is - the hospitals are running along just the same as always and the division government puts between people where it is okay to spew lies and hate one another, well look around - you're in great company here.

TL/DR - your weak statement is decades old. Too bad our new Sock Puppet PM didn't double our debt for healthcare in lieu of patronage to his rich associates.

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Oh, the old 'don't burden the healthcare' argument. Well, our healthcare has been over burdened for decades, with national publications doing several articles about it - including Macleans and every Provincial paper. Go ahead, look it up; it's woke to throw words, but the reality is - the hospitals are running along just the same as always and the division government puts between people where it is okay to spew lies and hate one another, well look around - you're in great company here.

TL/DR - your weak statement is decades old. Too bad our new Sock Puppet PM didn't double our debt for healthcare in lieu of patronage to his rich associates.

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I agree that our health care system was burdened prior to Covid but by saying that hospitals are running along just the same as always is inaccurate. Covid has completely changed what services we can expect if we really needed to go to a hospital due to an emergency.

Health care union employees have been overworked for years and they have made it clear before. If you asked any of them now, they can tell you it has never been this bad ever. How do I know? My friend is a respiratory specialist and they have never been more stressed.

It is easy to throw around statistics and say the small number of deaths and hospitalizations don't impact much. If you agree that the system was taxed before, adding more to it now is enough to cause it to fail. That is why I care about the vaccination rates and positive cases. In the end, it will impact me or my family if there was an emergency.
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Oh, the old 'don't burden the healthcare' argument. Well, our healthcare has been over burdened for decades, with national publications doing several articles about it - including Macleans and every Provincial paper. Go ahead, look it up; it's woke to throw words, but the reality is - the hospitals are running along just the same as always and the division government puts between people where it is okay to spew lies and hate one another, well look around - you're in great company here.

TL/DR - your weak statement is decades old. Too bad our new Sock Puppet PM didn't double our debt for healthcare in lieu of patronage to his rich associates.

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I don't agree with your argument. Just because it was bad doesn't mean it can't be worse.

A kid broke a plate in your house. Since there's already one broken plate, what's another 5 more, is what you are saying.
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but the reality is - the hospitals are running along just the same as always
That's a definitively incorrect statement.
There is endless information from everywhere from media, to patients in the healthcare system, to people that work in hospitals, even that have posted about their increases in OT in this very thread. Just because you don't like the info available due to it conflicting with what you've already decided the truth is doesn't mean it isn't real.
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