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Old 06-24-2021, 10:47 AM   #11201
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Well of course there are many more? It’s easy to talk about something and write articles when you don’t need to back them up with science or studies.

Your comparison doesn’t even hold water, you’re not doing research, you’re looking for dialogues that fit a personal decision you’ve made. It would be more like shopping for a used car and deciding you want a Toyota and then reading articles written by people who only love Toyota’s… or getting a carfax report from someone who usually provides reports on laundry detergent and knows nothing about cars but thinks they do because they drove one once.
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Well of course there are many more? It’s easy to talk about something and write articles when you don’t need to back them up with science or studies.

Your comparison doesn’t even hold water, you’re not doing research, you’re looking for dialogues that fit a personal decision you’ve made. It would be more like shopping for a used car and deciding you want a Toyota and then reading articles written by people who only love Toyota’s… or getting a carfax report from someone who usually provides reports on laundry detergent and knows nothing about cars but thinks they do because they drove one once.
I completely agree with you. When I watch Bonnie Henry on TV and how she contradicts herself throughout the whole last year. I tend to not trust that source.
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I don’t watch her every day myself, not sure why she needs to be a focal point or what she has to do with the science behind vaccines. She’s creating policy with the rest of the government based on best information available at any given time while considering the needs of the many. An unenviable task if there ever was one.

I mean the proof will be in the pudding, ~5 billion people are going to be vaccinated in a years time with little to no related deaths. Can’t say the same for Covid. I don’t even need to say anything, I am confident that time will prove you wrong, just hope you don’t have to pay for your decision personally.
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Delta Variant coming soon.
Booster shots would be needed by Sept - Nov (Fall).

If I remember to log on here again, we'll see if it's true.

Also, ya'll haven't looked into other remedies to covid yet.

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Old 06-24-2021, 11:12 AM   #11205
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Also, ya'll haven't looked into other remedies to covid yet.
Says who? I have been consistently taking vitamin D, Zinc, and Quercetin with my usual vitamin regiment since the start of the pandemic, yet I am still getting my vaccines.
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Those of you that took it are part of the clinical trial. You signed up for an experiment that would've never been allowed if it wasn't under the emergency act. This clinical trial does not end until 2023.
If you're not getting vaccinated you're signing up for the clinical trial for COVID. Of the two groups, that seems like a much worse one to be in.
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The coronavirus has been around even before we were born into this world.
If you're not comfortable with it, and you trust the science, then go ahead and get the vaccine.
Simple as that.

But, as to say, your dose does not work because unvaccinated people didn't get it, that is just bogus.
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Old 06-24-2021, 11:39 AM   #11208
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Delta Variant coming soon.
Booster shots would be needed by Sept - Nov (Fall).

If I remember to log on here again, we'll see if it's true.

Also, ya'll haven't looked into other remedies to covid yet.
If I didn't get vaccinated and ended up with Covid perhaps this remedy could work: Onions in socks
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I bet ya'll having so much fun now that I participated here.

Anyways, hope it was entertaining to you all.

You can all take it as a joke.
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The vaccine discussion begins and ends with hospital capacity

You take the vaccine knowing it was created as an emergency measure to try and help family and friends from ending up in the hospital and dieing. Regardless of your stance on the vaccine the argument always comes back around to hospital capacity and the medical system

I really couldn’t have cared less to be vaccinated as I don’t believe I was in danger at all of being seriously ill or dieing from covid. The numbers reflect that. However, occasionally you kinda gotta take one for the greater good of society. I’m not thrilled to have to take it, but if it means some return to normalcy and protecting my parents etc. I guess you do what you gotta do

Regardless of your thoughts on the vaccine it always goes back there. That’s it
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Well, yes - but also no. Hospital capacity is an important measure for societies with hospitals, but you also have to realize that hospitalization only occurs for people with access to hospitals...

I guess the counter-argument would be if some hypothetical place had a hospital with a million-bed capacity, would that location not take Covid seriously?

But the rest of what you said is on point, 100% agree.

Also, to nobody's (except maybe Lighthouse or keeper or whatever):
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Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

The AP analyzed figures provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.
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Yikes this is some November 2020 level discussion going on here. Haven't we all moved on ?
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^ Clearly not, I found out a few days ago a guy we laid off last year is a huge covid denier. Like flat out denies it.

The kicker is his sister in the US died from it a few months ago, but he STILL denies it. Boggles the fucking mind.
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I already know whether I post other sources, it would still be ridiculed. No matter how many different sources there is, it wouldn't change anyone's mind.

Like I said, people had already made their decision on this topic. I completely respect that.

I just hope ya'll would do the same for us with different opinions in the real world.
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I already know whether I post other sources, it would still be ridiculed. No matter how many different sources there is, it wouldn't change anyone's mind.

Like I said, people had already made their decision on this topic. I completely respect that.

I just hope ya'll would do the same for us with different opinions.
That's kind of a lame excuse though.

Post your sources, even if you get clowned, who cares? Push your ideas if you think they're credible.

Just don't post an MP3 file A buddy of mine I was debating with on FB tried to send me, a recording of an anti-vax "doctor". Needless to say, I didn't download, nor listened to it.
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Honestly though, medical advice shouldn't be given to one and another in the public. It should be sacred between a doctor and a patient. And everything discussed should be confidential.

A doctor should be there to help with the patient's wish. Not the doctor mandating this or that because of the greater good.

Therefore, politics and medical should not mix.
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I already know whether I post other sources, it would still be ridiculed. No matter how many different sources there is, it wouldn't change anyone's mind.

Like I said, people had already made their decision on this topic. I completely respect that.

I just hope ya'll would do the same for us with different opinions in the real world.
Look I'm trying real hard not to ridicule you here but you can't just appear out of nowhere and go around cock-teasing us with ReAd MuH SoUrCeS!!!111 for like 3 pages straight and then post some potato photo of a "paper" written by a Computer Scientist and Acupuncturist on the subject of vaccines.

I mean, come on man, I know you're trying to be objective and start a dialogue here but at least try a bit harder. It doesn't help your default disposition is some half-assed persecutory delusion.
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I guess some people prefer death over 5g

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Old 06-24-2021, 01:51 PM   #11220
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I bet you didn't even read past the first few pages. The first thing that comes to your mind is dismiss.

I can be extremely rude also to your retarded decision on getting something experimental and just follow what you are being told.

Obviously, this isn't the place to debate about vaccines. But, I see now this is just another place where you find others who conforms to the jab.
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Just what the fuck do you expect us to read? Your incessant ramblings about non-peer reviewed sources? Your raving persecution complex? Stop trying to be some kind of off-brand CiC. All the crazy, none of the substance.
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The antivax argument always falls into a big pharma / lemmings / conformist thing.

Tell us about other facets of your life... do you drink soda? Do you eat microwavable foods? Do you drive a car? Do you walk outside? Do you wear shoes made of synthetic materials? Any polyester in your clothes? What are your soaps in your house made out of? Cleaners? Are you posting your messages on a laptop? Phone? Wifi?

How come all these things aren't conforming to Evil Inc? All the things above you most likely partake in or use are not okay or conformist or are okay to put in your body... but suddenly you decided to draw your line in the sand over a vaccine that has essentially saved the world? MRNA vaccines aren't "new experimental technology", maybe this derivative is new, but the philosophy and science behind them is anything but and I would hardly call it experimental.

Its way too convenient to decide on this one thing you're suddenly more educated / can see more clearly / not a follower when literally every other facet of your life you're doing exactly what everone else is and eating/drinking/breathing the same shit... come on...
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Just what the fuck do you expect us to read? Stop trying to be some kind of off-brand CiC. All the crazy, none of the substance.
You don't need to read anything. You don't even want to know anything other than what you are being told by the news.

Critical thinking isn't meant for you. Just listen and do what you are being told.


I actually remember CiC and I never had any problem with him. His opinions was just as strong as yours.
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As I suspected, you're just a low-rent troll.
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As I suspected, you're just a low-rent troll.
Let's just leave it at that. You can just take me as a troll or a joke. Doesn't matter. I have nothing to gain here, but to lose my time on here.
There's no more room to discuss this topic for me here. It would just turn ugly.


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