I'm sorry, but this kid deserves what's transpired. At 14 years old, I already knew not to punch or attack other kids, let alone disabled ones.

As someone above mentioned, he'll just have to learn to be a better person without being paid for it.

He was an unsigned draft pick heading to college for up to 4 years. Being drafted isn't an opportunity to play in the NHL.

That's 4 years that the organization potentially had to influence him and for him to show real change, growth, etc. before even inviting him to a training camp let alone offering him a contract.
I'm actually quite disappointed if that's what you're inferring my argument is.

He already went through the motions. That's a huge part of why this got to where it is. Going through the motions isn't good enough and I'm glad it wasn't good enough.
I agree. However, what do you think is more likely to happen now that Arizona has dropped him, his university program has dropped him, and no NHL team will ever touch him for fear of a PR nightmare (or really any organization, sports or not)? That he'll suddenly change his ways? Or that he'll become bitter, angry, and even more racist?

Is justice (internet mob justice at that, not even legal justice) for a teenager's actions more important than trying rehabilitate him?
He was never paid and there was never an agreement that he would be paid. He was drafted meaning the team had exclusive negotiation rights with him until a certain period of time after he left university.

Why should he be entitled to those 4 years to do that with an organization? No one owes him anything. Why can't he do that on his own for the next 4 years?

No. That's my argument.

No, but no one owes him anything to give him the chance to fix things/himself with an NHL team. That's his own responsibility to take action, regardless of whether he gets to play hockey professionally. No one else is to blame for whatever happens after. No one said it would be easy, but why should he have it easy?

why is being drafted and part of an organization the only way to rehabilitate someone? what difference does it make whether he has been paid yet or not?

you generalize what he's done as "teenager's actions". this is not a one time lapse of judgement or something that's just chalked up as kids doing dumb things. what he did was so serious, it went to court, the judge recognized he had no remorse and only cared about his own reputation, and even after that he continued to taunt the victim.

if he's serious about bettering himself and being a leader for the cause, great, go do it. he doesn't need hockey to do that. if he wants a shot at the NHL, go play elsewhere and try to work his way back. if nobody wants to touch him with a 10-foot pole because of his history, then too bad, that's life. consequences.

Got nothing to add except this oddly subtitled vid i'll just slide right into here.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/w5/pushing-th...ugh%20injuries.

Not sure if this has been shared, but the video goes into detail about the use of painkillers such as toradol.

Kesler speaks on his experience. Doctors said his colitis and Chron's Diisease was due to him using toradol for extended periods to continue playing through a broken hip and other injuries.

It was already talked about a lot last month, I think it was in the old thread.
https://www.tsn.ca/video/tsn-origina...f-pain~2040291

Not gonna lie, I teared up when he talked about his kids not wanting to ask him to go outside and play because he was visibly in a lot of pain.

Always hoped I would have a chance to bump into him in Parksville.

Keep your stick on the ice.

(my son going for his first skate)

The reverse retro jerseys for our Canucks look awesome.

-bringing back the West Coast Express look from the Naslund, Morrison, and Bertuzzi era. :thumbsup:

https://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...st-express-era

I think the Canucks Retro jersey's are beyond ugly... The wild on the other hand are so nice.

-also like the Avalanche's reverse retro jersey. The team is bringing the back the Quebec Nordiques logo and design to that jersey.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...anche-win-day/

all 31 retro jerseys here:

https://news.sportslogos.net/2020/11...eams/hockey-2/

There are some really nice ones in there... Bruins, Nordiques, Whalers, Habs in blue, Flyers, Jets looks really cool.

Some of them are DansGame, including the Canucks, but some people like gradient jerseys. Stars and Red Wings are kinda :fulloffuck:

Every year I'm disappointed again that the Canucks haven't moved on from the orca logo FeelsBadMan

I don’t mind ours but thought this was pretty good:

https://i.imgflip.com/4mnh57.jpg

At first, I didn't mind it. Didn't hate it but I also knew I'd never bother buying. Then I took a look at the other designs across the league and am super disappointed in the one we went with. It was discussed briefly this morning on 1040 as well (they didn't like it either).

The capitals might be my favourite one

They passed up a huge opportunity to bring back a big Johnny Canuck logo FeelsBadMan

Holy shit, it does look like a Sprite can :lol

That ain’t a logo, like I dunno what’s with people’s fascination with the stupid Johnny Canuck

If we went full time Johnny Canuck it would be the worst logo in the league by miles. That ain’t even worthy of an AHL team

Maybe not full time, but what other options are there for "reverse retro"? They already have the sled, they are using the old colours full time... Flying V I guess? Millionaires?

I'm not a huge fan of Johnny Canuck either, but people like it

I dunno I think skate and even the V would be preferred over Johnny Canuck

I’m torn over this gradient one, I don’t love it but don’t have much thought into what else would have flown.

I still can’t believe the kings have not gone back to their silver and black sweaters with this logo on the new one, that was like an all-time retro look and as far as i know they’ve never gone back to those yet

The one that got away..

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_r8tWGVHrj...uver_id_02.jpg

every time I see Columbus' logo, I just think Church's Chicken :lol

Now I can't get that thought out of my head

Big fan of what the LA Kings did with theirs. Ours is poop.

Ours is easily one of the worst of the bunch.

Love that some of the teams out there paid homage to their original team names, pre-moving. Colorado busting out the Nordiques Logo. Carolina with the Hartford Whalers logo. Now thats going retro proper! WTF are we doing with the orca, its like our designer didn't get the memo what the theme of the party was and showed up with the wrong costume.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em-U0s7W...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Em-U0_AX...pg&name=medium

Seeing these colours and designs brings back some memories