[jigga250]

sometimes ppl whack ppl for free sometimes they want some cash sometimes they want a lot of cash

I remember a couple years ago when the Province had that big article on all the Indo-Cdn gangs, most of the hits were done for 20-30k IIRC.

[mikemhg]

How do you know? have you ever taken a contract out on someone? Have you ever collected after a hit?

No, you haven't. You're just talking out of your ass trying to sound like a tough guy, when in reality you don't know how much the price is for someone to die.

Some mob boss in Montreal just got taken out. Do you think some chump just did it for 3-4k?

:gtfo:

I think you can GTFO buddy, do you even know what you're talking about?

Most hits aren't done by Career Hitmen. You would be surprised how many youngin's or addicts are willing to pop someone off for a few thousand, some drugs and a provided burner.

The most I've ever heard on someone's head was 10K.

[mikemhg]

To add to that too, there are quite a few younger guys out there who are trying to make a rep or name in the game and taking a hit when a guy has a few thousand on his head is EXTREMELY common.

[adambomb]

I told a guy to :gtfo: cause he thought a hit was worth 3-4k.

I didn't know mikemhg, the RS beat down crew hitman was going to be in here. Now he's boost the price to 10k.

:drama: :gtfo:


Point is, the price can be anything. Until one of us actually puts a bullet in someone's head and collects off of it. None of us have any idea what the agreement is when someone kills someone. It could be revenge, it could be to move up the chain, it could be because a guy fucked some guys gf. It could be for $100-100,000 dollars. No one really knows.

Most i've heard for someone's head is also 10k. You know who that is from... the cops. They openly said that price, in a sting operation, on the news when they tried to arrest someone for conspiracy to commit murder. Your guy probably heard it from a guy who heard it from my guy, Kevin Newman. :rolleyes:

But, since we're on the topic of hitman, some guy gave me a nasty slide check in soccer today. I've got 10k, can either of you direct to a hitman? This guy is a fucking dirty player.

No? I didn't think so.

:gtfo:

[2damaxmr2]

Wow Mr. e-thug. You think you are tough eh? I know this information because i do have some shady friends. You should shut your trap....

[StylinRed]

sigh kids....

this thread isn't for you to imagine yourselves as being gangsters or for you to think it's cool to be thugs etc...

[StylinRed]

Shooting in Port Coquitlam
Victim in hospital
News1130 Staff Nov 11, 2010 19:00:01 PM
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PORT COQUITLAM (NEWS1130) - A 46-year-old man has been shot in Port Coquitlam.

At about 4 o'clock this afternoon, officers responded to several 911 calls about shots fired at a home on Gately Avenue. They found a man suffering from gun shot wounds upon arrival. The victim has been transported to hospital, where he is recovering from his injuries. He is well known to police, but investigators can't say if the shooting was gang related.

Sergeant Peter Thiessen with E-Division says they don't have a suspect in custody. "We have every reason to believe through the course of the investigation that it was an absolutely targeted shooting on this individual."

He says the victim is not cooperating with the investigation.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Coquitlam RCMP or Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/128097--shooting-in-port-coquitlam

[ws6ta]

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[StylinRed]

another one

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/130055--suspected-shooting-in-surrey

Suspected shooting in Surrey
No word on injuries
News1130 Staff Nov 16, 2010 12:39:09 PM
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CLOVERDALE (NEWS1130) - Police in Surrey are on the scene of a possible shooting along the Surrey- Langley border.

Neighbours heard shots fired and investigators were sent to scene. Yellow police tape is up at 194th Street and 61st Avenue.

No word yet if anyone has been hit or if anyone is in custody. News1130 has a reporter on the way.

MORE TO COME lol at the final words

[drunkrussian]

lol wtf that's the most vague news story ever

[Mercy]

Anyone have news on the young teenage girl that was beaten to death at a park in delta?
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[Harvey Specter]

Anyone have news on the young teenage girl that was beaten to death at a park in delta?
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Killer or killers have not been found yet.

[StylinRed]

so its not a shooting? or...

Update: Police investigate assault in Surrey
No word on injuries
News1130 Staff Nov 16, 2010 13:39:30 PM
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SURREY (NEWS1130) - A man has been rushed to hospital after being assaulted at a home in Surrey.

"We are conducting a further investigation to figure out what happened here. But what I can say is that an initial review does indicate that it was targetted," says Surrey RCMP Cst. Peter Neily, about an incident at 194 St. and 61 Ave Tuesday morning.

Neily says this wasn't a shooting although he doesn't know how the person was injured. No one is in custody right now.

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/130055--update-police-investigate-assault-in-surrey

[Hondaracer]

I'll kill you all for a bigger avatar

[StylinRed]

Man shot in chest in Vancouver shooting; gunman remains on the loose


VANCOUVER - Police officials confirmed this morning that one person is in hospital after a shooting at about 2:00 a.m. in the 2100 block of Dundas Street, adding the attacker remains on the loose.

The suspect may still be armed, police added.

Police say the victim, 29, suffered a gunshot wound to his chest. Police say reports indicate that two people allegedly exchanged fire in the rear lane of the block, and some of the shots may have originated from a suite at 2155 Dundas Street.

Investigators were on-scene quickly after the 2 a.m. 911 calls, and officials said they found a man a short distance away in the 2100 block of Triumph Street, suffering from an apparent gunshot wound.

Police searched for several hours without finding any other participants in the shooting. The VPD Major Crime Section are working to develop more information.

Anyone with information should call police immediately, officials say.
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Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/shot+chest+Vancouver+shooting+gunman+remains+loose/3841894/story.html#ixzz15bjRO2pN

-_-


video http://www.vancouversun.com/news/videos/index.html#5AJnnmJZSG8ySi0tp_EMo1nYgKqZHipY

[Ch28]

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/132767--possible-shooting-in-new-westminster

NEW WESTMINSTER (NEWS1130) - Police in New Westminster have cordoned off 13th and Kamloops, while they investigate a possible shooting.

[StylinRed]

not a shooting but i cant find that thread about the body found between the power lines.... if there even was one on here

Charred body in Surrey identified
Tara Lynn Westgarde was a mother of four
News1130 Staff Nov 24, 2010 09:48:45 AM

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SURREY (NEWS1130) - RCMP say burned remains found in a Surrey ravine 11 days ago belonged to a mother of four.

Investigators are trying to find out what happened to Tara Lynn Westgarde between the day she disappeared and the day her body was found. Westgarde was last seen alive by a family member on November 11th.

Dale Carr with the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team wants to hear from anyone who saw Westgarde before her body was discovered two days later. He says Westgarde was not involved in the sex trade, but her criminal past could yield clues. "She was known for her involvement in the drug trade, property crimes, and fraud. It could be anything along that line."

Carr tells us, "We're treating it as a homicide. The idea of it being a suspicious death is long gone. We're looking for her killer."

He wants to bring a conclusion to this tragic story as soon as possible. "It's a tragic story all around. Certainly, the fact that she was murdered and then burned is tragic. But now she's got four young kids who have been left behind."

Anyone with information is asked to call I-HIT at 1-877-551-IHIT. If you wish to remain anonymous please call Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/147980--charred-body-in-surrey-identified

[Hondaracer]

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[StylinRed]

there's been more shootings than this lately but look it happens so often now we dont really care -_-

Shots ring out in early morning shooting
News1130 Staff Dec 12, 2010 05:02:36 AM
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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - People who live in the area around Oak Street and West 23rd Avenue first heard shots just after 2 a.m. this morning. One man who lives in the neighbourhood tells News1130 he heard almost a dozen shots and then screaming. Others say they saw two cars speed down Oak Street after the shooting.

Vancouver Police have confirmed they've blocked off the area and expect to be there throughout the morning. Several people have been taken to hospital with gunshot wounds, although it's not clear how victims there are or how seriously they're injured.

Witnesses have been taken to police headquarters for questioning. More information is expected to be released later today.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/156302--shots-ring-out-in-early-morning-shooting


couple days ago


Double shooting in Coquitlam targeted gangster
By KIM BOLAN, Vancouver Sun December 10, 2010

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/3959268.bin
A gangster who recently returned to B.C. after two years in Iran was in a car targeted by gunmen in Coquitlam early Friday morning.

Sahand Askari, 26, was not injured in the shooting on Clarke Road about 4:20 a.m.

But his business associate Daniel Lovric, 28, was hit several times, as was Igor Uijar, also 28.

RCMP Sgt. Peter Thiessen said the three men in the vehicle drove to the Coquitlam RCMP detachment looking for help. The two injured men were then taken to a local hospital.

“The two men were hit multiple times,” RCMP Sgt. Peter Thiessen said. “They are lucky to be alive.”

Thiessen said investigators believe the shooting was targeted.

“The victims are very well-known to a variety of policing agencies throughout the Lower Mainland as a result of their ongoing criminal activity, and at this point the victims continue to be uncooperative with investigators. All indications ... are that this is a gang- and/or drug-related incident.”

He said Coquitlam RCMP Major Crime investigators were out canvassing the neighbourhood for witnesses throughout the day Friday.

Anyone with information is asked to call Cpl. Jim Devine or Sgt. Scott Baker at 604-945-1473.

Askari and his brother Siavash arrived at Vancouver International Airport on Oct. 26 after leaving Canada in early 2008. Siavash had several outstanding charges against him and was arrested by the Gang Task Force after leaving his plane.

He was charged with mischief after kicking the camera of a Vancouver Sun photographer at the airport. He remains in custody and is due back in court Dec. 20.

While Sahand Askari escaped injury Friday, he was wounded in a 2007 shootout in Richmond, after which police said he was suspected of being an active participant in the gunplay.

Lovric is listed online as the business partner of the Askari brothers in a company called Global Track and Trade, which claims to specialize “in international investments and trading economical resources worldwide.”

In January 2009, five gun charges against Lovric were stayed, including unauthorized possession of a firearm, occupying a vehicle in which there is a firearm, possession of a prohibited/restricted firearm with ammunition, defacing a firearm serial number and careless use of a firearm.

A Crown spokesman said at the time that it could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that a gun found in Lovric’s BMW on Jan. 26, 2008, was in his possession.

kbolan@vancouversun.com

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story to the brother being arrested at the airport
http://www.iran-times.com/english/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=752:wanted-gangster-goofs-by-returning-to-vancouver&catid=115:dia-right
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[adambomb]

Gang war is totally heating up again.

IMO, the 2009 gang war never stopped. People just laid low because the cops were bringing the heat. The apparent cause of the last gang war was the Bacon Bros. Well, they're sitting in jail now and shots are still being fired.
Probably going to start seeing shootings more often now. I guess the cops didn't solve the problem, unlike last year when they were banging their chests like they did.


But StylingRed is 100% correct. No one cares about shootings anymore. Can we really consider this news anymore?

[Bonjour43MA]

Reasons for this city's worsening drugs/gang-related incidents:

- our broken legal system that preaches the "hug a thug" theory of criminal punishment. A pat on the back saying "now now, just don't do it again ok?" and off they go into the streets again. We need more severe punishment for crimes committed, otherwise NO ONE will care about the consequences of their actions

- not enough money spent on the Police force. Instead, we have billions spent on the long gun registry which (evidently) has done nothing to prevent these gang-related shootings from happening. Our gun laws are targeting the WRONG PEOPLE! I would rather see money spent on beefing up our Police force and adding more man power to better enforce the laws.

- our hippie mayor and his la-la land politics. Why isn't more money spent on getting more resources for the VPD or the gang unit? Does he not care that this city is being ruined by these gangbangers? All he seems to care about is putting more bike lanes into the streets and spending money to make the city hippie-friendly. Horrible leadership!

This is the first time in my life that I would think twice about walking in the streets in the middle of the night, even just to goto the corner store to get a bag of chips or some coffee at McDonald's. I don't feel safe anymore...

[Bonjour43MA]

But StylingRed is 100% correct. No one cares about shootings anymore. Can we really consider this news anymore?

no one cares because it hasn't affected them yet. From the looks of things, though, gangs are starting to move into areas where everyday law-abiding citizens live, and more and more by-standers are being impacted. I don't think people would start caring until you see shootouts in more affluent neighborhoods, or until some social elite's family members are affected by these criminals - that's when our corporate-backed politicians will move their ass and do something about it.

[2damaxmr2]

Blah only way to get rid of these fuckers are bring back the death penalty. Plus ccw for safety measures.

[Gnomes]

As that guy from "Vancouver streets of plenty" says, to save homelessness you first need to stop the source - drugs. When drug market gets destroyed, gang related violence, petty crime and other shit should decrease significantly.

I'd say death penalty for REPEAT offenders. Those who sell drugs to school kids should be crucified before death.

[Hondaracer]

if you carry an unregistered/stolen handgun, instant 5 years in jail

i dont see why there should be any oposition to a law like that, and why it couldnt be implemented

[adambomb]

no one cares because it hasn't affected them yet. From the looks of things, though, gangs are starting to move into areas where everyday law-abiding citizens live, and more and more by-standers are being impacted. I don't think people would start caring until you see shootouts in more affluent neighborhoods, or until some social elite's family members are affected by these criminals - that's when our corporate-backed politicians will move their ass and do something about it.


Gangs have always lived and operated in neighbourhoods beside law-abiding citizens. An affluent neighbourhood with wealthy neighbours doesn't make it gang free. There have been grow ops in the British Properties and Westwood Plateau. There have been shootings in Shaughnessy. As I recall, one asian boss who's daughter had to make the terrifiying 911 call, and another in a BMW.

But you final sentance hits our gang problem right on the nose. The corporations control everything. :rolleyes: :lol :eek5r:

[Bonjour43MA]

To be honest, I don't think we need ccw in Canada, let alone Vancouver yet. Just look at how people FREAK OUT at the mere sight of anything that resembles a gun, and how police overreacts when they respond to the call. Our liberal and hippie city crowd just ain't ready for that yet...

I think whoever's the next BC premier needs to pay more attention to preventing this province from overtaken by drug lords, if they haven't already.

[Bonjour43MA]

if you carry an unregistered/stolen handgun, instant 5 years in jail

i dont see why there should be any oposition to a law like that, and why it couldnt be implemented


because our government believes that only law-abiding gun owners should be charged or jailed for gun-related offenses, since that's where ALL the guns come from in gang related crimes, right? :rolleyes::D:p "oh hey, let's make legal gun owners' lives miserable so that no one will want to get firearms! no firearms = no gang shootings! problem solved!!!! what? smuggled/illegal firearms are how the crooks are getting armed? but but but... that's not possible! Their names are not on the registry or the licensing database!"

Our politicians are so useless and out of touch with reality.

[Boostslut]

My friend took these pictures of the scene of the shootings on Oak st. it's on his website.

http://www.momentsinrgb.com/?p=4089

Check it out. Crazy stuff going down in Vancouver.

[johny]

if you carry an unregistered/stolen handgun, instant 5 years in jail

i dont see why there should be any oposition to a law like that, and why it couldnt be implemented

that law already exists. it might only be 2 years though. however nobody is ever convicted of it. gernally people get charged with like 20 things, and they only end up giving him 1 or 2 of the smallest charges of the 20 in the end.

[johny]

Gang-related west side shooting injures 10 people

By Tiffany Crawford and Douglas Quan, Vancouver Sun and Postmedia News December 12, 2010 11:17 AM Comments (16)
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Callers to 911 reported a succession of shots near Oak and West 23rd Avenue at about 2 a.m. Sunday morning, police said in a news release.Photograph by: Google maps, Vancouver Sun

VANCOUVER -- At least 10 people were shot — two critically — early Sunday morning in what Vancouver police described as an “outrageous display” of gang violence in the city’s west side.

Six men and three women are being treated for gunshot wounds. Two of the nine victims are in critical condition and a tenth victim has refused treatment, Vancouver police Const. Jana McGuinness said in a news release.

Callers to 911 reported a succession of shots near Oak and West 23rd Avenue at about 2 a.m. Sunday morning, police said in a news release. The area has a mix of small businesses, apartments and houses.

Dave White, a local radio reporter who lives near the crime scene, said he was dozing off to sleep when heard about five gunshots. He said he initially brushed it off.

Then he heard a scream, followed by another rapid succession of shots — perhaps a dozen, he said — followed by more screaming.

“Go, go, go,” he heard someone yell.

“I had a cold, pit feeling in my stomach,” he said.

White said he grabbed his gear and ran outside.

He said he saw two vehicles — a red Chrysler Sebring and a white BMW SUV — speed down Oak Street.

Ann Oxendale, who has lived in the area for 20 years, was in her ground-level apartment watching TV when she heard shots fired. She and her 24-year-old son rushed to the window and saw two cars speeding off southbound.

“I heard a woman scream, or at least I thought it was a woman,” Oxendale said. “And then I saw the two cars speeding up that way, so I went to grab the phone. By then the police arrived. It happened really fast. I stayed inside because I thought I should stay out of the way.”

White said he saw a group of people huddled outside a Subway restaurant.

There was also a woman “moaning and groaning” in the alcove of a Best Neighbours Restaurant nearby.

Paramedics quickly loaded her up in an ambulance.

“The ambulances kept coming,” he said.

When officers arrived in the area they found a number of people suffering from gunshot wounds in the 3800-block of Oak St. Additional victims were found a short distance away on the street and more turned up at local area hospitals over the next hour, having made their way there in private vehicles.

Another resident, Paul Wolf, said he was asleep when he heard about five or six gunshots. Initially, he said he thought someone was banging on the metal trash containers in the back alley. But then he heard several more shots.

He opened the blinds in his bedroom and saw about 20 young people running out of a narrow alleyway behind the Best Neighbours Restaurant toward the street.

He later walked outside and saw a man in handcuffs outside the Subway.

“Pretty unnerving,” said the father of young children.

As of 10:30 a.m., Oak Street is still closed in both directions between West 21st and West 25th avenues and no traffic is getting through. A large crime scene is taped off.

Two piles of clothes, including a blood-stained white T-shirt, a black Puma sneaker and torn-up jeans sat on the ground behind yellow police tape.

A wallet with a driver’s license sticking out, and a BlackBerry were also visible.

McGuinness said investigators were combing for clues over a stretch of four blocks. Several evidence markers lay on the rain-soaked sidewalk.

Police officers were also guarding the entrance to the emergency ward at nearby Vancouver General Hospital.

Police said several people are in custody as of Sunday morning.

Oxendale said she has never been afraid in her neighbourhood before this incident.

“I picked this area because it’s safer than Whalley,” she said.

About a week ago, graffiti tags appeared on mailboxes and newspaper boxes in the area, Oxendale said, adding that area residents were concerned that gang activity could be creeping into the neighbourhood.

Police said a number of witnesses are being transported to the police station for interviews.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the VPD Major Crime Robbery Assault Squad at 604-717-2541 or Crime Stoppers at 1800-222-8477.

tsherlock@vancouversun.com

© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun

[oinkoinkpig]

I heard the gunshots too last night...

[heero78]

I was driving on King Ed earlier this afternoon. Oak street was still shut down by the police.

[will068]

I was driving on King Ed earlier this afternoon. Oak street was still shut down by the police.

Still ? Wow.

I was driving southbound on Oak at around 7:00 AM and the whole south bound traffic was blocked starting from 15th Ave. I thought it was just an early morning accident. Damn.

[yellowpower]

About a week ago, graffiti tags appeared on mailboxes and newspaper boxes in the area, Oxendale said, adding that area residents were concerned that gang activity could be creeping into the neighbourhood.


Yes, because real gangsters who shoot people tag mailboxes and newspaper boxes to claim their territory..

[yamahar6]

Yes, because real gangsters who shoot people tag mailboxes and newspaper boxes to claim their territory..

:rofl:

[Death2Theft]

Yawn big deal, make it 25 years to be caught with a unregistered handgun see how many shootings you'll have then. I slept right thru it cuz it was pissing rain last night didn't hear shit.

[dlo]

Dam, I was at VGH around 2am and there was a quick rush of ambulance/police because of this. The hospital had a lock down, no one was allowed to enter or leave, pretty nerve racking as cops kept yelling and making it a huge scene at the hospital..

[kookoobird88]

was just get dragon ball bbt. all the streets still blocked

[TRDood]

7pm, still closed...

[InvisibleSoul]

That's pretty crazy... ten people shot, but nobody died.

[lgman]

Well if your gonna get shot the best place to be IS near a hospital.

[2damaxmr2]

That's pretty crazy... ten people shot, but nobody died.

Shooting a gun accurately in real life is far more difficult than in the video game.

[CRS]

Shooting a gun accurately in real life is far more difficult than in the video game.

Probably because people don't have the same amount of practice of shooting guns in real life than in video games.

How many hours do you dedicate to playing games like CS/COD before you get good? How many hours do you spend shooting a gun IRL?

It really comes down to practice, however, the physics in real life are a lot different because as most shooters know, your first shot is the most accurate. After that, when the barrel is heated, it skews the following shots.

Probably doesn't help that you're anxiety ridden and not trained on how you should deal with that anxiety.

[StylinRed]

Happened in front/near Mayor Gregors house according to the news

That's pretty crazy... ten people shot, but nobody died.

well 2 are in critical

but yeah... the shooters were probably scared too or else you think with a machine gun they'd make sure they got who they were after but instead they were likely running n gunning

[Death2Theft]

All i wana know is where the hell you'd find a pack of 30 people at 2am in that neighborhood is there a hardcore starbux hangout or something or a gambling operation behind neighbors? :P

[StylinRed]

a news1130 photographer (who lives right there) says when he ran out to snap photos he heard a loud house party was still going on a block down the st.

[rsx]

the law isn't heavy handed when it comes to drug possession/trafficking and gang related shootings are the result.

I've always been a strong supporter for government work camps for these degenerates.

[johny]

Happened in front/near Mayor Gregors house according to the news



if he turned every road in vancouver into a bike lane, there wouldn't be anymore drive by shootings!

[Ch28]

if he turned every road in vancouver into a bike lane, there wouldn't be anymore drive by shootings!

ride by shootings? :rofl:

[Death2Theft]

That happens in the states lil kids 12 year old on bmx. How u gonna enforce those laws.

[Hondaracer]

Becuase eventually that 12 year old will grab 3 strikes and go to the pen for life
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[spyker]

Happened in front/near Mayor Gregors house according to the news


Now that it's happened in his neighbourhood,perhaps he should wake the fuck up do something about it now,instead of building those stupid fucking bike lanes and wasting taxpayers money.

[InvisibleSoul]

Update...

VANCOUVER — A brazen shootout that has once again raised fears of a violent gang war in Vancouver took place at an invitation-only birthday party at a restaurant on the city's comfortable west side.

Vancouver Police Supt. Warren Lemcke says most of the people at the birthday party were known to have gang connections and everyone struck by the bullets were guests of the party.

Lemcke says of the 10 people shot early Sunday morning, eight are still in hospital.

Vancouver was wracked with gang violence for most of last year but 2010 had been relatively quiet, until lately.

Lemcke says Vancouver Police won't tolerate such activity and he promises the public will see more uniformed officers on the streets and a program to ensure gang members stay out of the city's bars will be stepped up.

The shoot-out prompted several calls to 911, including one from Vancouver's mayor, who lives in the usually quiet neighbourhood.

http://winnipeg.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101213/vancouver-gang-shooting-101213/20101213/?hub=WinnipegHome

[Infiniti]

im sorry but the whole barwatch program for example is a joke. Having been involved in event organizing at local nightclubs, it was common occurrence to witness what looked to be obvious gangsters walking in through the front door without i.d scan and pat down, yet all other regular civilians must abide by these procedures

[Death2Theft]

What kinda gangsters b eat at "neighbors" not exactly the balling proceeds of crime people were expecting

[shawnly]

It was a private/booked-out birthday function at that particular restaurant a) management may possibly have connections/affiliations? :s b) they serve good grub LOL

[DJ Milk]

According to CTV, the Askari brothers where there at the party. The same people that was shot at last week in Coquitlam.

[StylinRed]

ahh Mr. Detective i see :D hehe


I saw the latest headline today and Im actually appalled by it

"No Innocent people hit..."

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/156647--no-innocent-people-hit-after-massive-vancouver-shooting
VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Vancouver Police now say Sunday's massive gang shooting followed an invite-only birthday party being held at a nearby restaurant. They say everyone involved had links to the gang life.

It happened at 2 a.m. on Oak St. near West 23 Ave.

The isolated, targeted shooting left 10 people hurt, eight are still in hospital and two remain in critical condition. Investigators found an assault rifle. Police believe the incident is the fall-out of a man murdered at Metrotown earlier this year.

Police will be stepping up patrols around pubs and restaurants where gang members are known to hang out and will invite more eateries to join the Bar Watch program.

Mayor Gregor Robertson, who lives a block away from where the shooting took place, says he was woken up by it and is outraged by the violence.

No charges have been laid but officers continue speaking with persons of interest.

Neighbours coping

One father tells News1130 he never expected to have his young family wake up to the sound of multiple gunshots. "I was totally shocked to hear: a) there was a shooting and b) that many people were basically 100 metres from my house."

Some people living in the area say they heard up to 20 shots. Several describe hearing a woman scream then car tires screech and peel away.

News1130's Dave White lives in a building right across the street from where the drama unfolded and he heard the staccato beat of the gunshots as they ripped through the early morning silence.

"Within minutes the police had completely shut off the entire area. At one point there was a girl screaming. She had taken cover in an alcove of a restaurant and paramedics were working on her before taking her to the hospital."

Gang-linked crimes difficult to prosecute

When witnesses are scared to come forward, SFU Director of Criminology Rob Gordon says that often leaves police spinning their wheels. So what can officers do to stop a gang war?

"Not much. They can parade in uniforms through bars and restaurants and attempt to deter this kind of activity," Gordon explains.

He says locking up gangsters is the only real deterrent there is and building enough evidence to get convictions isn't easy when even the victims stay silent.


I'm sorry but a "link to gang life" could be anything... hell having a girlfriend who's cousin is a gangster and being at her Birthday party (so you couldnt avoid it) would be construed as a "link to gang life"

such an appalling statement/ piece of journalism to make

[winks]

According to CTV, the Askari brothers where there at the party. The same people that was shot at last week in Coquitlam.

got a link?

one askari has been in jail since october

[winks]

this shooting was retaliation for gurmit singh dhak's murder. they wont quit until more blood is shed

[StylinRed]

^^ well if the rumors about the Askari brothers is true (although isn't 1 still in jail?) they didnt even come back from Iran until after that Gurmit guy died (and they were there for a few years)

[DJ Milk]

got a link?

one askari has been in jail since october

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101213/bc_gangs_101213/20101214?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

This is taken from Kim's blog
KIM SAYS: I really don't know. I made no calls Sunday as I am off, though I did receive a few. The victims are low-level drug traffickers, but they have higher up connections. And one victim is a cousin of one of the guys in the car in Richmond in October that was shot up on Westminster highway

[Ch28]

AndreaWoo (http://twitter.com/#%21/AndreaWoo) Andrea Woo
@VancouverSun (http://twitter.com/VancouverSun) looking into both police swarm at Burrard and Howe and reports of shots fired in Yaletown.

AndreaWoo (http://twitter.com/#%21/AndreaWoo) Andrea Woo
Sorry, make that between Burrard and Howe. Basically that whole area, gah!



10 minutes later...

MayorGregor (http://twitter.com/#%21/MayorGregor) Gregor Robertson
calling for more fed/prov $ into gang task force to help vpd and metro cities proactively fight gangs in bc

[InvisibleSoul]

@VancouverPD statement confirms "ongoing investigation" at Seymour/Drake and no shots fired but a flashbang deployed. (via @AndreaWoo)

[Hondaracer]

flashbangs, cool

[vafanculo]

@VancouverPD statement confirms "ongoing investigation" at Seymour/Drake and no shots fired but a flashbang deployed. (via @AndreaWoo)

Now this I have to simply blame on call of duty
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[mpr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQjQOlJvMzE&feature=related

[originalhypa]

:eek:

holy shit!

[2 n r]

^lol at 1:00 mark

[jdmhaze]

WTF!!!!

[InvisibleSoul]

Update...

Vancouver police said Tuesday that eight of the 10 victims in Sunday's Oak Street shooting remain in hospital.

According to a police news release, six men and two women are being treated for various injuries related to gunshot wounds.

Police have already completed a thorough search and canvass of the neighbourhood around the shooting looking for witnesses and any discarded evidence.

The VPD Forensic Identification Unit will be back at the scene again today collecting evidence.

The VPD's Victim Services Unit has also canvassed the neighborhood, going door to door in an effort to provide assistance to anyone who might need support or was affected by the shooting. Those outreach efforts will continue today, police say.

So far, no arrests have been made in connection with the shooting.

Some of those wounded in the unprecedented gangland shooting are believed to have information about the execution of a notorious gangster at Metrotown in October.

Among the shooting victims are three gangsters with convictions for drug trafficking and violence; one was charged in Burnaby last month with 27 firearms offences.

Vancouver police confirmed at a news conference Monday that the shooting had some link to the Oct. 16 slaying of Gurmit Dhak in broad daylight at the busy Burnaby Metrotown mall complex.

“We had a little bit of a lull but there is always tension beneath the surface and the latest outbreak is connected to the targeted hit of Gurmit Singh Dhak,” Vancouver Police Chief Jim Chu told reporters.

But Vancouver investigators did not elaborate on how the shooting of 10 gangsters and associates outside an Oak Street restaurant early Sunday related to the earlier hit, which remains under investigation.

The Vancouver Sun has learned that the invitation-only birthday party was for 29-year-old Darren Cunningham, who was injured in the shooting.

Cunningham has a 2001 conviction for drug trafficking in Vancouver, and two other convictions for driving infractions.

He also has a loan for a 2006 Ford 350 truck like the one riddled with bullets outside the restaurant Sunday.

Also among the injured partygoers were gangsters Damion Ryan and Paul Araki, close associates of a man shot in Richmond on Oct. 22 in retaliation for the Dhak slaying.

Ryan was recently stopped by police in a vehicle with Sahand Askari, one of two gangster brothers who recently moved back to Metro Vancouver from Iran. Askari was in a vehicle targeted by gunmen in Coquitlam Friday, though he was not injured.

Court records show that 27 new firearms counts were sworn against Ryan last month related to events on Aug. 26 in Burnaby. He has not made an appearance on any of the charges, according to the court database.

Both Ryan and Araki were convicted in 2005 of discharging a firearm, aggravated assault, robbery and break and enter in connection with a violent home invasion to steal the proceeds of a marijuana crop. The grower was beaten and shot several times, but survived.

Law enforcement agencies across Metro Vancouver are concerned about the recent escalation in gang violence, culminating in Sunday’s shooting.

Vancouver police stressed Monday that none of the injured were innocent bystanders, but had all been invited to the Best Neighbours Restaurant for Cunningham’s party.

“The bulk of the people at this birthday party are known to have gang connections,” Deputy Chief Warren Lemcke said. “There were no innocent people who were struck by bullets.”

Lemcke said those shot were aged 20 to 36. He added the shots were fired with an assault weapon.

Police vowed to step up uniformed police presence in the restaurants and bars known to be frequented by gangsters.

Mayor Gregor Robertson, who lives one block from the shooting in the 3800-block of Oak Street, said he was surprised that no one was killed.

He described being awakened by what he initially thought were firecrackers, then got a “sinking feeling” in his stomach when he realized it was gunfire.

“When it happens in your own neighbourhood, it’s a shock,” said Robertson, whose wife and 15-year-old daughter were also at home at the time.

“It was scary for my family and my neighbours’ families.”

Robertson said he tried calling 911 but got a busy signal, adding he suspected other neighbours were also calling in to report the gunfire.

Robertson called the shooting “despicable” and said police will do everything they can to catch those responsible.

The shooting comes just one week after the Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit-Gang Task Force issued a warning about the possibility of an increase in gang violence resulting from recent events, including the October mall slaying.

Const. Jana McGuinness said the victims — who were shot near Oak Street and West 23rd Avenue — were targeted by the shooters.

Six men and three women were treated for gunshot wounds at hospital while a tenth victim refused treatment, McGuinness said.

Asked if any of the three females who were shot were simply the girlfriends of the alleged gangsters, Lemcke said he didn’t know. He did say girlfriends were at the party at the time.

“This is an ongoing part of the gang war. Although we have seen lulls, we are also seeing things are similar to what happened Sunday night,” said Lemcke.

“The major concern [for police] is where these shootings are occurring in public and the potential for innocent people to be hurt.”

Many residents who live nearby were startled awake shortly after 2 a.m. when they heard several rounds being fired.

Chief Chu said that for the past two years, police in the region have been focusing on gang members most likely to engage in this type of behaviour.

“There are numerous dynamics [for shooting]. Sometimes hostilities towards rivals and sometimes they shoot each other when they don’t even have a reason,” he said


Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Eight+Vancouver+shooting+victims+remain+hospital+p olice/3976629/story.html#ixzz18KPARUo7

[Hondaracer]

27 gun charges and robbing and shooting a grow operator, and your out attending birthdays

its like, why am i going to school lol

[scottsman]

What the fuck were the cops doing? They had like 5 min to get to that thing in florida.

[Ludepower]

"Police vowed to step up uniformed police presence in the restaurants and bars known to be frequented by gangsters."

LOL more money for cops to walk around bars checking out chicks and kicking guys out with a criminal record...what does that accomplish? They'll just party somewhere else on another night.

Maybe do actual police work, undercover investigations, build cases on them and then arrest them with solid evidence.

[shawnly]

"Police vowed to step up uniformed police presence in the restaurants and bars known to be frequented by gangsters."

LOL more money for cops to walk around bars checking out chicks and kicking guys out with a criminal record...what does that accomplish? They'll just party somewhere else on another night.

Maybe do actual police work, undercover investigations, build cases on them and then arrest them with solid evidence.


Problem is that even they build a case that would stick, crown/judges can't get the maximum sentences because the prisons are packed. I think the solution is, as many people have said, to increase sentences; there'd definitely be the whole prison capacity issue at first but in the long run there would be a decrease as the consequences are stiffer - bigger risk vs. reward than there is currently now.

[ynot-llat]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Gunfire+erupts+outside+busy+Eleven+East+Vancouver/4115002/story.html

7 eleven at knight and 33rd.

[Vansterdam]

^ someone was found dead in someones front yard last year i think not to far away from there

not to suprised

areas a warzone

[Mr.Money]

crazy shit as always,all of this,the rookie RCMP are never in the area to catch anyone & just reports of it.
just lets all the gangster's know they can do something like this and speed off when they watch it on TV


i won't be surprised if i hear on the new's some despite thugs try rob a bank getting the idea from "The Town"

[Euro7r]

There's all these shootings everywhere, all the time. However, how many times have the cops caught anyone through investigations.

[ynot-llat]

^ never.

same questions as, how many terrorists or bombs have the Airports thwarted, with all their naked body scanners, high tech equipment, increased security and measures? The answer is none.

The government scares the people into giving away more personal freedoms each and everyday in return for bullshit "security"

Like how Mayor Gregor Robertson pledged for more police and a show of force to fight off the gang violence. That aint gonna do nothing. You want to stop the violent drug wars from erupting on public streets? Simple, END PROHIBITION.

Its time the laws are updated to work in favor of todays society, not in favor of the military industrial complex and the corporations that profit off the madness.

[The_AK]

^ never.

same questions as, how many terrorists or bombs have the Airports thwarted, with all their naked body scanners, high tech equipment, increased security and measures? The answer is none.

The government scares the people into giving away more personal freedoms each and everyday in return for bullshit "security"
this

[ShanghaiKid]

shots fired around 37th and Oak not too long ago, friend told me SWAT has the area blocked off... approach with caution

[StylinRed]

^^^^^^

Shooting in Vancouver
VPD investigating on Oak Street near Van Dusen gardens
News1130 Staff Feb 05, 2011 06:44:17 AM

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Shots rang out just before 4 o'clock this morning near the entrance of the Van Dusen Botanical Gardens.

When Vancouver Police arrived at the scene on Oak Street at 37th Avenue, they found the bloody shooting victim near a car on the curb.

A man has been taken to hospital with gunshot wounds. No word on his current condition. There's no word yet on whether anyone has been arrested.

The VPD has Oak Street closed in both directions from 33rd to 41st Avenues as the investigation continues.

update
One man hurt after gang-related shooting in Vancouver
North Vancouver man in hospital; no arrests so far

http://media.greenradio.topscms.com/images/77/5b/c572644b447fbdb2265f78d22dbf.jpeg

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A North Vancouver man with gang ties is recovering in hospital after he was shot in Vancouver early this morning.

Shots rang out just before 4 a.m. near the entrance of VanDusen Botanical Gardens. When police arrived at the scene at Oak Street and 37th Avenue, they found the 30-year-old man with multiple gunshot wounds; his injuries are non-life threatening.

Police say a nearby car was on the sidewalk, and apparently hit a parked car before going onto the curb.

There have been no arrests so far. Anyone with information is asked to call the police at 604.717.2541 or Crime Stoppers at 1.800.222.8477.

Oak Street remains closed to traffic in both directions between West 33rd and 41st Avenues.
http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/179429--shooting-in-vancouver

[alwaysideways]

Now had he been allowed to drive around in a bullet proof car, he would not have jumped up on the curb endangering the lives of those that may be walking there :fullofwin:

[ynot-llat]

D

[HondaGuy]

^^^ is that what happened on kingsway/victoria tonight?
I was heading westbound on kingsway and just when I passed KFC there were massive police cruisers blocking all intersections at 845pm
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[cattdizzog]

Someone just got shot at Barcelona. Friend just text me. Happened right behind him...6 shots fired. One person got hit in the leg. Thats all i know.

[adambomb]

Yea, i heard that too. No confirmation on news sites yet though. :gun:

[adambomb]

...

[DJ Milk]

News1130 posted it on their twitter about the same time as cattdizzog did
http://twitter.com/News1130radio

[Blue_StreakR]

It was a bouncer that got shot, and he is ok. Got hit a couple times in the thigh. Dont know anymore than that.

[jerche]

I was in gas town and I saw a couple cops running while carrying shotguns around 3am. Big WTF, never seen anything like it before.

[StylinRed]

getting shot in the leg doesnt mean he's okay.. especially when its the thigh

must have pissed someone off bad

[adambomb]

What a fool from Alberta. Oblivious to the fact that Granville is crawling with uniformed and plain clothes cops every saturday night. He probably thought people in Vancouver are scared of gangsters and would let him run away. Wrong. :Petting



VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - An early morning shooting in Vancouver has left one man in hospital. The victim is a bouncer at a nightclub downtown. It was shortly after 1 a.m. a man got into an argument with the doorman of the Barcelona Lounge on Granville Street.

At some point the man pulled out a gun and fired several shots, the bouncer was hit in the leg.

Vancouver Police Constable Lindsey Houghton says the suspect is a 32-year-old man from Alberta. "The man in custody is facing numerous weapons, firearms and assault related charges. We could be looking at charges relating from firearms charges all the way up to possibly attempted murder charges. He is known to police."

The victim has non-life threatening injuries.

Houghton is praising the witnesses who chased down and held him until police arrived.

[vafanculo]

Being from Vancouver, I'm really surprised they even chased him down, especially after the fact he shot someone. He must have just chucked his piece after firing?
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[Hondaracer]

pretty hard to stop shootings with shit like this, this was a little low-key article in the province a few days back:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/IMG_1000000706.jpg

[KO7]

I can't believe witnesses chased down a man who was armed and already showed that he was willing to use his gun. Those people are either braver or dumber than I am.

[Spidey]

pretty hard to stop shootings with shit like this, this was a little low-key article in the province a few days back:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/sniperslayer/IMG_1000000706.jpg

The guy probably has a short life expectancy anyways. I have no sympathy for fellow "gang" or "criminals" killing each other off

[aznorris]

i heard "the rock" got shot

[b0unce. [?]]

The guy probably has a short life expectancy anyways. I have no sympathy for fellow "gang" or "criminals" killing each other off

i feel the same way, except for that fact that usually when this happens, there are more innocent casualties than the 'gangsters' they kill probably.

[will068]

What a fool from Alberta. Oblivious to the fact that Granville is crawling with uniformed and plain clothes cops every saturday night. He probably thought people in Vancouver are scared of gangsters and would let him run away. Wrong. :Petting



VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - An early morning shooting in Vancouver has left one man in hospital. The victim is a bouncer at a nightclub downtown. It was shortly after 1 a.m. a man got into an argument with the doorman of the Barcelona Lounge on Granville Street.

At some point the man pulled out a gun and fired several shots, the bouncer was hit in the leg.

Vancouver Police Constable Lindsey Houghton says the suspect is a 32-year-old man from Alberta. "The man in custody is facing numerous weapons, firearms and assault related charges. We could be looking at charges relating from firearms charges all the way up to possibly attempted murder charges. He is known to police."

The victim has non-life threatening injuries.

Houghton is praising the witnesses who chased down and held him until police arrived.



i heard "the rock" got shot

Yeah, that's him.... damn

[Supafly]

Yeah, that's him.... damn

If "the rock" is who I think it is....he's had it coming for a longtime...the guy was pretty darn arrogant the last time I had an incounter with him... True story.

[Vansterdam]

no way it was "the rock"?

[Tegra_Devil]

no way it was "the rock"?

the rock?

[Vansterdam]

not the wrestler your thinking of just this one bouncer dude that looks like him

[TRDood]

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/77459.jpg

what?

[shawnly]

Man shot in 1000-block of Hornby. Witnesses: three gunshots, man running into Subway + collapsing. Paramedics are now attending to the man

[drunkrussian]

Man shot in 1000-block of Hornby. Witnesses: three gunshots, man running into Subway + collapsing. Paramedics are now attending to the man

in central downtown inthe early evening?! thats really fucked!!!
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[shawnly]

Unconfirmed: "The victim was transported to hospital where he was declared dead, according to reports from first responders."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/02/17/bc-man-shot-hornby.html

[StylinRed]

nutty area to be shooting

[bcrdukes]

If "the rock" is who I think it is....he's had it coming for a longtime...the guy was pretty darn arrogant the last time I had an incounter with him... True story.

Of all the years I went clubbing, I have never had an issue with bouncers. In fact, most of them were very courteous and polite and were simply there to do their jobs, ensuring a safe atmosphere for patrons. I'm sure there are a few out there who cross their boundaries but its unfortunate that they all get grouped into the same bag of bad apples.

While I may not know this "Rock" character nor have I ever encountered a bouncer of such stature, in the grand scheme of things, as the old saying goes, "What goes around, comes around."

[Hondaracer]

anyone know if "The Rock" was a part-time teacher as well?

i used to know a guy who fits that description who actually was like a teachers aid at my highschool back in the day, was a bouncer the whole time as well and also when i myself worked downtown

[Ch28]

Man shot in 1000-block of Hornby. Witnesses: three gunshots, man running into Subway + collapsing. Paramedics are now attending to the man


AndreaWoo (http://twitter.com/#%21/AndreaWoo) Andrea Woo
Yesterday's #HornbyShooting (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23HornbyShooting) victim identified as Milad Nournia, 26. Had a loaded handgun on him, drug trafficking + gun convictions.

Targeted shooting and another scumbag off the street.

[Hondaracer]

i want to start walking around strapped

the guy who got murdered may be another scumbag off the street, but im sure he's just a little pawn that no one will care much about the loss, hes just a little street level guy

[411ken]

i want to start walking around strapped

the guy who got murdered may be another scumbag off the street, but im sure he's just a little pawn that no one will care much about the loss, hes just a little street level guy

And why would you want to start walking around strapped? are you planning on killing the shooters if you see it happen or something??

[Ch28]

i want to start walking around strapped

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

ok there tough guy

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

[BlackZRoadster]

i want to start walking around strapped



Coor story bro

:gun::gun::gun::gun::gun::gun::gun::gun:

[TRDood]

shooting season starting now?

[Hondaracer]

And why would you want to start walking around strapped? are you planning on killing the shooters if you see it happen or something??

i was joking.. but obviously there are little to no repercussions to carrying around loaded hand guns, so if i have my own registered hand gun on my person, id expect nothing more than the equivalent of a unsafe lane change ticket when i get searched

[dinamix]

http://www.nsnews.com/news/Drug+dealer+gets+months/2859189/story.html

Buddy had it coming
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[maxxxboost]

Uh.... another one bites the dust.

[whateverman]

he be out 20 month or sooner

[adambomb]

he be out 20 month or sooner

He's dead. How's he going to get out of being dead? :blueguy:

[whateverman]

He's dead. How's he going to get out of being dead? :blueguy:
nvm that was an old news article

[jaguar604]

where does it said he's dead? it said he got 30 month with 2 month already served

That article is from 2009

[StylinRed]

hes just a little street level guy

sometimes the street level guys are the toughest or bosses

you have the option to be a retailer or a distributor or a wholesaler or all of the above


walmart/mcdonalds are retailers but the wholesalers/distributors are their bitches


but then theres the govt that's always on top


wow.... that's actually a great example :fullofwin:

think i need a nap




Side note i wonder if this Nournia guy got hassled with Narnia jokes

[Hondaracer]

from those sounds of the original charges he was obviously just working a line/shack

[StylinRed]

^^ oh werd i was just speaking generally

[StylinRed]

breaking news just reported on CBC


shooting in surrey (delta?) 99th ave and 119 st looks like that's right off Scott Road



One man is in hospital after what appears to be a drive-by shooting in Surrey on Thursday afternoon.

Police learned of the incident around 5 p.m. when an on-duty Surrey RCMP officer driving down 99th Avenue near 119th Street noticed two people carrying someone who appeared to be injured, said Insp. Dave Attfield of the Surrey RCMP.

"He just happened to be driving down the street, noticed something strange, turned around, asked what was going on and was informed by the victim's friends that he was wounded," Attfield said.

They told him the incident began when the victim and a female friend were walking down the street toward another friend's home.

A dark truck or SUV then came from the west, headed toward Scott Road, and someone inside the vehicle shot the victim and fled, Attfield said.

Other friends of the victim, who live nearby, then came to assist.

The victim was stabilized and taken to hospital. Attfield did not know the extent of his injuries.

A block of 99th Avenue was cordoned as investigators scoured the scene for clues. Three evidence markers, likely used to mark bullet casings, were visible.

The presence of Gang Task Force members sparked speculation that it was a gang-related shooting, however Attfield said the members just happened to be in the area at the time.

At this point, the victim is not cooperating with the investigation.

Police are asking anyone who may have heard a gunshot, or seen a suspicious vehicle, to call Surrey RCMP.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/hospital+after+shooting+Surrey/4343389/story.html#ixzz1EwBIdDJj

[fliptuner]

Not really a shooting but a shootout on King George and Hwy 10

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Suspect+shot+dead+Surrey+after+chase+shootout+with +RCMP/4376927/story.html


SURREY — A man is dead after a car chase and shootout with police in Surrey, the RCMP announced Thursday.


The Mounties' Surrey detachment issued a statement saying officers stopped a white Chrysler 300 around 11 p.m. Wednesday in White Rock near the U.S. border. The responding officer noticed the suspect, an unidentified lone male, had a gun and called for backup before the suspect fled the scene.


Another officer saw the vehicle speeding about 10 kilometres north of where it was first pulled over and laid a spike belt across the road to stop the fleeing car, the statement said.


The suspect's vehicle collided with the squad car, at which point "the occupant of the fleeing vehicle became engaged in a lethal confrontation with our uniformed member with what is believed to be an assault rifle," the statement said.


"Multiple gunshots" were fired in the shootout, in which the suspect was killed and pronounced dead at the scene.


The RCMP said they found both an assault rifle and a handgun near the victim.


No police were injured in the incident.


The Surrey RCMP serious crimes unit is currently investigating the case, but the New Westminster Police Service will be the independent police agency to conduct the investigation.


At last report, the intersection of King George Boulevard and Highway 10 remains closed due to the ongoing investigation.



Read more: http://www.canada.com/news/shot+dead+Surrey+after+chase+shootout+with+RCMP/4376927/story.html#ixzz1FYVL6JXi

[StylinRed]

what a moron... why in the hell would he get in a shootout with the police???

it'd make more sense just to take the gun charges ... hell even if he had a car full of drugs it'd make more sense to just get arrested...

why in the hell would you get in a shootout oO does he think this is Mexico or something...

what a nut job

[fliptuner]

Having a gun and assault rifle within reach, there's a good chance he was on his way to start some shit or he really was that stupid. Either way, good on the coppers for taking him down.

[InvisibleSoul]

Cop-assisted suicide?

[El Bastardo]

Traffic is all fucked up cuz of this

[604nguyen]

nice, one less dirtbag to worry about

[vitaminG]

It was pretty nuts i live right there, the helicopter was out till about 1am. I walked by there and looked and it looked like they laid spike strips to stop the guy.

i just really fucking hope he wasnt brown... all though the chase started in white rock so hopefully he is white.

[Hondaracer]

Dealin white rock
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[SDU]

Did anyone see that picture of a police tank?

[drunkrussian]

damn thats some hollywood shit
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[PinoyDrifta]

Did anyone see that picture of a police tank?

i seen that same tank in Richmond last year tripped me the fuck out it was driving around..

[shawnly]

Apparently he had an AR-15 Assault rifle and a pistol on his lap, very odd set of circumstances/sequences of events.

[Stealthy]

Driving an ugly Chrysler 300 with blacked out tails. How heat is that?
This is right by my house too, like 5-10 minutes away wow.

[StylinRed]

Anyone who lives in the area did you hear gun shots about an hour after the incident?

apparently people are saying there were 3-4 shots in the same area after the police had the place cordoned off

conspiracy theorists are saying the cops let off some shells of the victims gun to make it look like a shootout instead of the officer just choosing to kill the guy

this is off the comments section of the sun

another guy is saying that the guy killed is a Game Tight Soldier who was a rat and was being chased hence the guns beside him
(the comments section has proven to, at times, provide some inside info being related)

[Hondaracer]

if you've got an AR-15 in your back seat and you run from the cops i think thats almost enough to shoot somone..

[StaxBundlez]

what a moron... why in the hell would he get in a shootout with the police???

it'd make more sense just to take the gun charges ... hell even if he had a car full of drugs it'd make more sense to just get arrested...

why in the hell would you get in a shootout oO does he think this is Mexico or something...

what a nut job

http://familyrights.us/news/archive/2010/february/thug_life.jpg

[shawnly]

Anyone who lives in the area did you hear gun shots about an hour after the incident?

apparently people are saying there were 3-4 shots in the same area after the police had the place cordoned off

conspiracy theorists are saying the cops let off some shells of the victims gun to make it look like a shootout instead of the officer just choosing to kill the guy

this is off the comments section of the sun

another guy is saying that the guy killed is a Game Tight Soldier who was a rat and was being chased hence the guns beside him
(the comments section has proven to, at times, provide some inside info being related)

Lotta "conflicting" or unreleased/unconfirmed details, like how the RCMP have issued a release that backtracks on its earlier report of “an exchange of gunfire” between officers and the suspect; could just be part of the nature of the investigation

[vitaminG]

Anyone who lives in the area did you hear gun shots about an hour after the incident?

apparently people are saying there were 3-4 shots in the same area after the police had the place cordoned off

conspiracy theorists are saying the cops let off some shells of the victims gun to make it look like a shootout instead of the officer just choosing to kill the guy

this is off the comments section of the sun

another guy is saying that the guy killed is a Game Tight Soldier who was a rat and was being chased hence the guns beside him
(the comments section has proven to, at times, provide some inside info being related)

I live maybe 200 metres away and i was just getting home from the gym when it happened, i didnt hear any gun shots. In fact I walked out to king george at about 11:15 right when it was apparently going down and I didnt hear anything, until the cops told me to get the hell out of there.

[Mr.Money]

uh oh....Dirty Cop staging the gun runners zone....what cop told a gang member he was the rat on the inside & what gang member replied back telling him he's holding a Rifle and 1 pistol for transport to a buyer so the cop can "legally" take care of him?.

My speculation what you guy's are saying :O

[StylinRed]

Police backtrack on reports of exchanged gunfire in fatal Surrey shooting
By Sam Cooper, The Province March 3, 2011


A Surrey man says the unidentified man who was allegedly shot dead in a gunfight with a Mountie after a high-speed chase Wednesday died after two cars smashed into a backyard and about 15 shots were fired.

Chad Erickson, a 29-year-old construction worker, told The Province the police-involved shooting incident seems more complicated than initial police reports suggest.

Meanwhile, RCMP have issued a release that backtracks on its earlier report of “an exchange of gunfire” between officers and the suspect.

“The facts related to this incident are under investigation, and as such, at this time there can be no definitive statements made about whether or not shots were exchanged,” the media release said.

Saanich Police Sgt. Dean Jantzen called the original reports “premature,” saying forensic investigators have not yet determined how many shots were fired, and by whom.

Saanich Police are investigating the police-involved shooting at the request of the RCMP, he said.

Erickson said on Thursday afternoon he could see police investigators examining the dead man’s bloody body in his backyard.

“He’s brown, and he’s got black bushy hair,” Erickson said. “You can see blood coming from his nose and mouth.”

Erickson said he and residents in his home were woken to the sound of about 10 or 15 shots at 11:15 p.m.

About an hour later, three or four shots were heard, Erickson claimed.

“They were yelling to get out of the car and don’t touch the gun,” after initial shots were fired, Erickson said.

Jantzen said police are not yet able to verify Erickson’s story. “Let’s be clear, we still haven’t interviewed all the officers (involved),” he said.

Another person in the area, Kamal Singh, said police screamed at her to leave an intersection in the area long after 11:15 p.m., according to the woman’s husband, Kuar Singh.

The incident started when a Surrey Mountie pulled over a newer-model white Chrysler 300 in the 15400-block 16th Avenue around 11 p.m., police say.

Surrey RCMP Cpl. Drew Grainger said the man has not been identified yet, but was in his “late 20s.”

An officer saw that the man driving the car was armed with a rifle and called for backup, police say. The driver fled the scene, and a short police chase was called off.

Soon after other officers spotted the Chrysler on King George Highway and used a spike belt to stop the car.

A witness, Martin Lauze, said he was driving at King George Highway and 152nd Street around 11 p.m. when a Chrysler with tinted windows whipped by him.

“I saw a car speeding up behind me driving in the wrong lane,” Lauze said. “He passed me and went straight through the red light. I thought he was either a bad guy or a cop, one of the two.”

At that time the driver was “just running,” and not being pursued by police, Lauze said.

Lauze said when he eventually saw about 40 police cars at the scene where the driver’s car was apparently pinned by a police car before shots were fired.

As a marked police car tried to stop the driver, police say, there was a minor collision between the vehicles. Police originally said there was an exchange of gunfire between an officer and the victim, who they say appears to have been armed with an assault rifle.

A handgun was also found to be within arm’s reach.

The man was shot multiple times and was pronounced dead at the scene, police said.

No one else, including the RCMP officers involved, was injured.

scooper@theprovince.com

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interesting

supposedly the identity of the victim? is known and there will be a story about his past in the Sun soon

[StylinRed]

and here's the story about the deceased

sounds like they're going to try and use his comments from 2003 for this incident, that he was "suicidal" (sounds more like his comments were made/used as a get out of jail free card for that case)


Adam Brian Purdie, 28, worked at Coquitlam Chrysler and as a bouncer in the past


Man shot dead by police in Surrey 'hoped' to be shot

Killed by police Wednesday, man had said he had death wish
By KIM BOLAN, Vancouver Sun March 4, 2011 12:16 AM


METRO VANCOUVER -- A young gunman shot to death by Surrey RCMP Wednesday night had tried to get police to kill him before, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

Adam Brian Purdie, 28, testified at his own attempted murder trial in 2004 that he had pointed a gun at a Ladner man because he wanted the police to shoot him.

“I hoped if I scared him bad enough he’d call the cops and the cops would come and shoot me,” Purdie said of the April 12, 2003 incident.

Police have not released the name of the man shot to death near King George and Highway 10 at about 11 p.m. Wednesday.

But The Sun has confirmed it was in fact Purdie, who struggled with addiction and had spiralled out of control in recent days, according to some who knew him.

Purdie was convicted in 2004 of several charges after bursting into the Ladner home of his ex-girlfriend’s new boyfriend brandishing a gun. The victim’s family testified that Purdie cocked the gun twice, but that it appeared to be jammed before police arrived.

But Surrey Provincial Court Judge Dennis Devitt acquitted him of attempted murder, accepting his testimony that he was only trying to scare his victim with the .22-calibre rifle.

He received a four-year sentence for pointing the gun, breaking into the house, assaulting a police officer and possessing a firearm without a licence. But that was reduced to two years minus a day after he was credited for his pre-trial custody. He also received a lifetime firearms ban.

Surrey RCMP said the man who was shot Wednesday night had an assault rifle and a hand-gun with him when “multiple shots” were fired.

At first, police said there was an exchange of gunfire with the driver of a 2006 Chrysler 300 during a police chase that culminated in a collision with a police cruiser and several shots being fired.

But a spokesman for Saanich police, which has been called in to investigate the police-involved death, later said it was too early to say exactly what transpired.

“The facts related to this incident are under investigation, and as such, at this time there can be no definitive statements made about whether or not shots were exchanged,” Saanich Police Sgt. Dean Jantzen said.

He said because the case is under investigation “the RCMP is unable to provide any further media interviews or comments.”

Earlier Thursday, Surrey RCMP Cpl. Drew Grainger said the dead man was armed when he was involved in the altercation with police after a car chase.

Grainger said the incident began when Surrey RCMP stopped the Chrysler 300 in the 15400-block of 16 Avenue in White Rock.

“The uniformed on-duty member conducting this stop quickly observed the lone male occupant was armed with a firearm and immediately called for additional police assistance,” Grainger said. “The vehicle involved in this stop immediately fled the scene. A short pursuit commenced and was quickly terminated.”

He said the fleeing vehicle was spotted again by on-duty uniformed Surrey RCMP members in the area of King George and Highway 10 just after 11 p.m. Police used a spike belt to stop the car and it collided with a police cruiser.

The car’s driver then “became engaged in a lethal confrontation with our uniformed member with what is believed to be an assault rifle,” Grainger said.

No one else was hurt.

Purdie had been working at Coquitlam Chrysler after stints as a bouncer in both Surrey and Richmond.

A man who answered the phone at the Chrysler dealership Thursday confirmed that Purdie worked there, but said he did not want to comment about the shooting.

The Sun has learned that Purdie’s most recent girlfriend had just broken up with him and that he had been drinking in several Surrey bars and clubs in the days before the fatal shooting.

He had also made comments about “going out” with some fanfare.

The Personal Property Registry shows Purdie took a loan last November to buy a 2006 Chrysler 300.

In July 2009, he bought a Surrey condo at 12083 92A Avenue for $163,500, according to the Land Title Registry.

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[scottsman]

umm.... you don't fire a gun hours later if you are trying to cover up only the officer firing.

[StylinRed]

^^ it was an hour later

but i agree it doesn't really make sense, however how do you explain the reports of gun shots in the same area an hour later?


its part of what makes this story so intriguing

[vafanculo]

^^ it was an hour later

but i agree it doesn't really make sense, however how do you explain the reports of gun shots in the same area an hour later?


its part of what makes this story so intriguing

It's Surrey.

[jmvdesign]

Witness featured on the Global TV evening news was skeptical and claims he only heard shots going off from one gun and not exactly a "shootout exchanging fire" as police claims.

[CRS]

Witness featured on the Global TV evening news was skeptical and claims he only heard shots going off from one gun and not exactly a "shootout exchanging fire" as police claims.

This is the part that I'm having a hard time believing.

Most people don't know what guns actually sound like when they are fired. They probably don't know the sounds that a glock or a beretta can make vs. say a .22. Or for that matter a glock vs. a beretta.

People probably hear gun fire and assume it is all the same if there isn't a huge difference like a Barrett rifle vs. some .22 rifle.

[jaguar604]

I don't think there's a cover up. All the cops needed was for the guy to point a gun at them to shoot him dead.

Sounds like the cops opened up on him at first and didn't kill him. After an hour of trying to convince him to exit the car/put away the guns he aims at the cops and they're forced to kill him.

[zulutango]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/loaded+assault+rifle+pointed+officer+shot+Saanich+ Police/4385991/story.html

The latest news release...may answer some of the speculation here.

[StylinRed]

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/loaded+assault+rifle+pointed+officer+shot+Saanich+ Police/4385991/story.html

The latest news release...may answer some of the speculation here.

Jantzen said the second series of bursts were not shots, but the Lower Mainland Emergency Response Team detonating diversionary devices and gas canisters at Purdie's vehicle so investigators could safely approach.

"This was done to make sure the scene was absolutely safe for officers to approach and begin the investigation," Jantzen said, adding that police didn't know at the time if Purdie was still alive or if there might have been someone else hidden in the vehicle.

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So it sounds like what happened was police shot the guy and didn't approach the vehicle until 1hr later with flash bangs?

so the guy who was shot was left to bleed to death (if he wasn't dead already)

that sucks; im not blaming them for anything here, i get it, its just that i expect more (i guess my childhood images of the police being heroes has really been shattered and pulverized as i get older)

I don't think its expecting too much when you see that level of care and heroism from police in other countries and even countries that i perceive Canada to be better than.

Again I'm not blaming or accusing the police of anything it's just another stone on the disappointment scale.

like this latest story of the 2 New West police and the department that have been causing the delay into an investigation of the 2, to the point that the time limit for an investigation has passed http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/192967--two-new-westminster-cops-fighting-inquiry-into-their-actions

sure there's the odd story of the police that adds a stone that boosts and encourages the image that i had of our officers (like the officer who threw the girl out of harms way) but there's just too many incidents to the contrary

[zulutango]

No...you are there as a uniform Member with your 9mm S&W. The guy is carrying an assault rifle and you have just been in a firefight with a known violent person who has used guns in the past and who has assaulted Police in the passt and said he wanted "suicide by Cop". You wait until ERT arrives. They have body armour that will actually stop assault rifle bullets, unlike the stuff you are wearing, and other specialized equipment. They are trained and equipped to deal with exactly this type of situation. You stay in cover and let them do their jobs so that nobody else gets hurt as this is happening in a built up area and assault rifle bullets can go a long distance. You don't go running up to a car, exposing yourself to gunfire that will kill you if it hits you. It has nothing to do with a lack of courage and everything to do with handling a violent deadly shooter in the proper way so that a minimum number of people get hurt. Hollywood movies are not reality. When you get shot in real life you get wounded, disabled or die. Only a stupid person deliberately exposes themselves to that when there is a proper, safer alternative.

[StylinRed]

Thanks for the clarification, i was actually incorrect, i had assumed everyone was there already and that an officers bullet proof vest was enough, it didn't dawn on me that it actually takes time for the ERT to respond.

however Hollywood movies isn't what i was thinking of, more like actual situations caught on tape of officers over in Europe who are caught in a risky situation but take the risk as long as it means someone can survive instead of die or get seriously injured

that's the image and standards i hope/wish/thought our officers aspire to be at (that's why i have no problems if officers were paid double what they are, as long as those ideals are sought after)


but if even you, of all people on rs, believe that a bit of risk to insure life/safety of, yes even, a suspect is "hollywood" then i guess i have to rethink things


just a side note though

The guy is carrying an assault rifle and you have just been in a firefight with a known violent person who has used guns in the past and who has assaulted Police in the passt and said he wanted "suicide by Cop". You wait until ERT arrives.

All this wasn't known at the time not even that it was an assault rifle, merely a "gun" (according to the articles that first popped up it went from Gun, to gun and rifle in backseat) as for the "firefight" it isn't known if he fired at all (sounds like he didnt based on the article you linked althought the article is a little unclear with "Sgt. Dean Jantzen said it still too early to confirm whether Adam Brian Purdie shot at the Mountie though "several rounds were fired." i'm not sure if that means the suspect fired the gun in the air or are they referring to the officers shots)

the only thing that was known is that a suspect may have a gun and he fled from police (they didn't even know that an assault rifle was in his lap until after they moved in on the body)


the only suspicious thing that he did prior to hindsight was that he ran from police (the having a gun part may not be illegal at all for obvious reasons)



but again, I don't blame the cop for anything; i'm just saying i wished/hoped for more (maybe unrealistically, but i don't believe so)

[zulutango]

"the only suspicious thing that he did prior to hindsight was that he ran from police (the having a gun part may not be illegal at all for obvious reasons)"

In his case he was prohibited from having guns because of his attempted murder charge, assaults etc. That IS illegal. He had a lifetime firearms ban and he still had guns with him.


"They didn't even know that an assault rifle was in his lap until after they moved in on the body). Not true.



He said a lone Mountie with six years experience was involved in the shooting, which occurred about 11 p.m. and after Purdie took off from other officers who saw the guns in his car.
I think Police can tell the difference between a hand gun and a long gun. There has been speculation that it may have been a AR-15 copy in 22 cal, a very distinctive looking weapon.

http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://consumermaven.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/ar-15.jpg&imgrefurl=http://consumermaven.wordpress.com/2006/12/30/assault-rifle-ar-15-with-trijicon-acog-and-gemtech-m4-02/&usg=__2lpNrBCgw2xm72Wzgy7VwkGub7M=&h=779&w=1832&sz=328&hl=en&start=0&sig2=Ot9PJ5q3JpmbyhXdijX5GQ&zoom=1&tbnid=MSJyd6H9sZJSOM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=203&ei=XHdyTab6NIq6sQPhkrW8Cw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dar-15%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7ADFA_en%26biw%3D1003%26bih%3D 502%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=261&vpy=147&dur=905&hovh=146&hovw=345&tx=219&ty=75&oei=XHdyTab6NIq6sQPhkrW8Cw&page=1&ndsp=8&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0

http://www.colt22rimfire.com/index.php?page=colt-m16-rifle



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[johny]

In his case he was prohibited from having guns because of his attempted murder charge, assaults etc. That IS illegal. He had a lifetime firearms ban and he still had guns with him.

2 billion on the registry well spent!.. I've seen cases where people had 2 or 3 lifetime prohibitions LOL.. if the first one fails, give them another one.

[rslater]

I have a friend who worked with him just recently and has said he was on heavy medication amd it had appeared recently he stopped taking them. He was not 100% in the head.
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[StylinRed]

"the only suspicious thing that he did prior to hindsight was that he ran from police (the having a gun part may not be illegal at all for obvious reasons)"

In his case he was prohibited from having guns because of his attempted murder charge, assaults etc. That IS illegal. He had a lifetime firearms ban and he still had guns with him.

again that's due to hindsight they didn't even know who he was, how would they know about the firearms ban


"They didn't even know that an assault rifle was in his lap until after they moved in on the body). Not true.

its true the article you posted says that (they couldn't have known it was in his lap until they were upon him)


originally posted by Zulutango

He said a lone Mountie with six years experience was involved in the shooting, which occurred about 11 p.m. and after Purdie took off from other officers who saw the guns in his car.
I think Police can tell the difference between a hand gun and a long gun. There has been speculation that it may have been a AR-15 copy in 22 cal, a very distinctive looking weapon.



The responding officer noticed the suspect, an unidentified lone male, had a gun and called for backup before the suspect fled the scene.

...

"the occupant of the fleeing vehicle became engaged in a lethal confrontation with our uniformed member with what is believed to be an assault rifle,"
(id link the actual article but Kim Bolan likes updating and changing her articles with new info so all we have is the cut&paste from flip)
^^ that statement was later retracted because they aren't sure if the suspect had fired at all but even at the time they made that statement they were not certain it was an assault rifle

it was late, it was dark, the officer was certain he saw a firearm of that i do not doubt

but again they were not certain what those weapons were, he had 2, one turned out to be a dummy and the other a rifle but which did the officer initially see? i don't know, even if he had seen both weapons it MAY NOT have been illegal for him to be carrying/transporting them (as far as the officer knew)

So at the time of the incident the only thing the officers knew for certain that Adam Purdie did that was illegal was running from the police


Again I don't blame the officer for acting how he did, after all this guy did have a weapon and he was running from the police and you only have a short time to act AND the suspect MAY have fired at the police, we don't have any confirmation yet, so no I don't care about the events that led to the shooting all that much. (i can totally understand why they did)

But nevertheless the facts as we know them have to be made clear (more precisely the facts that were known at the time of the incident), and I only wish that an attempt at saving the suspects life had been made sooner especially because the only thing that he MAY have done wrong was run from police.

Of course with Hindsight we know he did many more things wrong than would have been known at that time but regardless I would still have hoped for an attempt to save him be made; again perhaps im too idealistic, but i do not believe so.

[zulutango]

"again that's due to hindsight they didn't even know who he was, how would they know about the firearms ban"


When you go to stop a vehicle you always radio in what you are doing and enter the plate number. That info pops up on your MDT and the dispatcher will be going into greater detail...specially when the subject tears away from the scene after Police have seen 2 guns in the car. They would be fully aware of what and who they had there as he was the regsitered owner of the car. His Violence, assault PO, firearms prohib etc would all be instantly available and all involved would be aware of the high risk nature involved. At this point is appears that Mr Purdie got what he wanted...to be killed by Police. Suicide by Cop is more common than you may think, even here in BC. It is incredibly difficult to talk them out of it because they have decided that this is the only solution open to them. This is even more difficult when they are armed with lethal weapons. I'm sorry for his family and their loss and I'm also sorry for the Members involved in the shooting. I have been there myself and you do not want to do what you must do.

[StylinRed]

Ahhh, of course.. that was stupid of me, I concede my issues of the details. (i dont know why that didn't dawn on me maybe its because i havent slept yet lol thanks for bearing with me :D )


But again I don't blame the officer at all for how things turned out I only wish an attempt at saving a life was made (yet again, perhaps im too idealistic)

[zulutango]

Ahhh, of course.. that was stupid of me, I concede my issues of the details. (i dont know why that didn't dawn on me maybe its because i havent slept yet lol thanks for bearing with me :D )


But again I don't blame the officer at all for how things turned out I only wish an attempt at saving a life was made (yet again, perhaps im too idealistic)


I'm waiting to hear the whining from the BCCLU and Pivot Legal Society. One attempts to save life when it is safe to do so. Same reason EMTs will wait at a crash scene with power lines down on the crashed car. If you get killed/injured yourself you are now part of the problem instead of being part of the solution. The autopsy will tell more about what happened from a medical standpoint and IF risking getting shot to attempt first aid would have been a reasonable option.

[winks]

another strange point is the witness saying he was brown. was he?

Quote:
Police backtrack on reports of exchanged gunfire in fatal Surrey shooting
By Sam Cooper, The Province March 3, 2011


A Surrey man says the unidentified man who was allegedly shot dead in a gunfight with a Mountie after a high-speed chase Wednesday died after two cars smashed into a backyard and about 15 shots were fired.

Chad Erickson, a 29-year-old construction worker, told The Province the police-involved shooting incident seems more complicated than initial police reports suggest.

Meanwhile, RCMP have issued a release that backtracks on its earlier report of “an exchange of gunfire” between officers and the suspect.

“The facts related to this incident are under investigation, and as such, at this time there can be no definitive statements made about whether or not shots were exchanged,” the media release said.

Saanich Police Sgt. Dean Jantzen called the original reports “premature,” saying forensic investigators have not yet determined how many shots were fired, and by whom.

Saanich Police are investigating the police-involved shooting at the request of the RCMP, he said.

Erickson said on Thursday afternoon he could see police investigators examining the dead man’s bloody body in his backyard.

“He’s brown, and he’s got black bushy hair,” Erickson said. “You can see blood coming from his nose and mouth.”

Erickson said he and residents in his home were woken to the sound of about 10 or 15 shots at 11:15 p.m.

About an hour later, three or four shots were heard, Erickson claimed.

“They were yelling to get out of the car and don’t touch the gun,” after initial shots were fired, Erickson said.

Jantzen said police are not yet able to verify Erickson’s story. “Let’s be clear, we still haven’t interviewed all the officers (involved),” he said.

Another person in the area, Kamal Singh, said police screamed at her to leave an intersection in the area long after 11:15 p.m., according to the woman’s husband, Kuar Singh.

The incident started when a Surrey Mountie pulled over a newer-model white Chrysler 300 in the 15400-block 16th Avenue around 11 p.m., police say.

Surrey RCMP Cpl. Drew Grainger said the man has not been identified yet, but was in his “late 20s.”

An officer saw that the man driving the car was armed with a rifle and called for backup, police say. The driver fled the scene, and a short police chase was called off.

Soon after other officers spotted the Chrysler on King George Highway and used a spike belt to stop the car.

A witness, Martin Lauze, said he was driving at King George Highway and 152nd Street around 11 p.m. when a Chrysler with tinted windows whipped by him.

“I saw a car speeding up behind me driving in the wrong lane,” Lauze said. “He passed me and went straight through the red light. I thought he was either a bad guy or a cop, one of the two.”

At that time the driver was “just running,” and not being pursued by police, Lauze said.

Lauze said when he eventually saw about 40 police cars at the scene where the driver’s car was apparently pinned by a police car before shots were fired.

As a marked police car tried to stop the driver, police say, there was a minor collision between the vehicles. Police originally said there was an exchange of gunfire between an officer and the victim, who they say appears to have been armed with an assault rifle.

A handgun was also found to be within arm’s reach.

The man was shot multiple times and was pronounced dead at the scene, police said.

No one else, including the RCMP officers involved, was injured.

scooper@theprovince.com

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— with a file from Sean Sullivan
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[StylinRed]

no he looks pretty white

they posted a pic of him

http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/realscoop/0118.Adam-Purdie-22.jpg
It seems there were two very different sides to Adam Purdie. There was the young man who took a gun to the home of his former love's new man in 2003 and tried to shoot (the gun jammed twice, his trial was told.) And there was the Adam Purdie who worked hard to get his life together, stay off drugs and help others attain their sobriety. For much of the last five years, that is the Adam his friends remember - generous, kind and loyal.

But Adam struggled with his demons and was using drugs again when he got his hands on an assault rifle and a replica gun and was cruising around Surrey Wednesday night. Everyone knows what happened next: after fleeing from the police and with one of his guns trained on an officer, Adam was fatally shot.

His friends and family are in mourning.

Since so much of the coverage has focused on his criminal past, I wrote this story about the positive sides of his life from the perspective of his friends.http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Friends+remember+Adam+Purdie+kind+heart+loyal+frie nd/4390513/story.html

[murd0c]

By the looks of his facebook page he was a good guy that got trapped by drugs again. Sad no questions asked but at least it looks like he helped a lot of people with rehab which he more then mostly all of these sum can say that have been getting blasted.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=600695740#!/home.php?sk=group_200002923361861

[woob]

I apologize if this is a repost; this is a google map view of the locations of Metro Van homicides of the past two years: http://www.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&t=h&hl=en&msa=0&msid=117958587327942127749.000460637393fa1696d7b&ll=49.202788,-122.94239&spn=0.173089,0.358521&iwloc=0004621bf5d05d97893bf&source=embed

(Compiled by The Vancouver Sun)

[StylinRed]

Making a pre-emptive post


7 police cars just flew up the street (dead end) sirens blaring

[fliptuner]

and that street would be......

[StylinRed]

124th st (maple ridge)

where that shooting murder happened not too long ago



edit: sounds like the helicopter is out now too, yep

[fliptuner]

Oh yeah, didn't you catch a piece of that one too?

[StylinRed]

yeah lol heard it and saw the aftermath

the guy that was shot was coming from the direction where the police are now (there's only like a few houses up that way)


time 2 move

[Gh0stRider]

Burnaby RCMP have confirmed a man has been shot at the Royal Oak Skytrain station. He is currently being treated by paramedics and police are searching for suspects. Skytrain service is not affected.
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[Deathdot]

^ Yeah was passing by there and saw atleast 10 cop cars parked by the station, the staircase to go down was blocked off too

[hal0g0dv2]

fuck that is scary

[k3mps]

my buddy was going to metro from commercial and he said everyone that piled up on the platform decided to bus or walk after hearing some guy used a gun on the skytrain/platform

[StylinRed]

yeah lol heard it and saw the aftermath

the guy that was shot was coming from the direction where the police are now (there's only like a few houses up that way)


time 2 move

just an update on that story, i dunno what happened but the police were up there for the whole day there was still one up there late at night


Burnaby RCMP have confirmed a man has been shot at the Royal Oak Skytrain station. He is currently being treated by paramedics and police are searching for suspects. Skytrain service is not affected.
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wow... used to always take the skytrain around there

[Mr.Money]

all those camera's,no suspect's yet...


let's you know your not safe in case of any crime's happening there :/

[Hondaracer]

How are you not safe? I don't think in any of these shootings in the past 3 years and innocent bystanders were ever hurt

Since when do gangsters take the skid train?
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[StylinRed]

How are you not safe? I don't think in any of these shootings in the past 3 years and innocent bystanders were ever hurt

Since when do gangsters take the skid train?
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gangsters do, they're prime dealing grounds and easy get away routes; in regards to bystanders within the last 3years im quite sure there were a couple, but i cant recall them exactly, i'll try searching
it's just like a few years ago there were bystanders hurt but you only heard about it in subsequent news articles, they weren't sensationalized
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oh yea off the top of my head, i think that party that got shot up and 10ppl ish got hit sure there were gangsters there at the party but not all of them were

[ruthless]

There was just a shooting at Crescent beach in white rock :eek5r:
no details yet...stay tuned

[StylinRed]

There was just a shooting at Crescent beach in white rock :eek5r:
no details yet...stay tuned

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110323/bc_surrey_white_rock_shooting_110323/20110323?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Police probe fatal shooting in White Rock
Date: Wednesday Mar. 23, 2011 3:08 PM PT

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20110323/470_bc_white_rock_shooting_1_110323.jpghttp://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20110323/470_bc_white_rock_shooting_2_110323.jpg

Mounties are investigating a fatal shooting near Crescent Beach in White Rock.

RCMP spokesman Cpl. Drew Grainger said the incident happened in the 2000-block of McBride Avenue, just two blocks back from the popular beach and boardwalk.

Grainger said it is believed one person was shot and the investigation is "very active."

Images captured from CTV's Chopper 9 show a person lying face up in front of a home with "Casa Linda" written on the awning entrance. Multiple police and medical teams can be seen around the home.

An online real estate listing for the "Casa Linda" shows the listing price at $1.65 million. The home was sold in April 2010.

More to come…

[Hondaracer]

Nicer weather = more shootings

[Harvey Specter]

The house looks straight out of Mexico.

[shawnly]

Police shooting, 3 RCMP officers were "confronted" by the man

[StylinRed]

update


Mounties shoot and kill man in White Rock

One man is dead after being shot by Mounties near Crescent Beach in White Rock.

The shooting happened around 2 p.m. on Wednesday in the 3000-block of McBride Avenue, just two blocks back from the popular beach and boardwalk.

RCMP Sgt. Peter Thiessen said police were called to the home to attend to an emergency call, but would not elaborate on the nature of the call. Three officers were confronted by one adult man at the scene.

Thiessen said he did not know how many shots were fired.

The Vancouver Police Department has been called in to investigate the shooting.

Images captured from CTV's Chopper 9 show a person lying face up in front of a home with "Casa Linda" written on the awning entrance. Multiple police and medical teams can be seen around the home.

An online real estate listing for the "Casa Linda" shows the listing price at $1.65 million. The home was sold in April 2010.
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110323/bc_surrey_white_rock_shooting_110323/20110323?hub=BritishColumbiaHome


i dont see what the price of the home has to do with anything.... but that's shoddy journalism for you

[winks]

nice house

http://www.whiterocklifestyles.com/Properties.php/Details/246/

[Meowjin]

update



http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110323/bc_surrey_white_rock_shooting_110323/20110323?hub=BritishColumbiaHome


i dont see what the price of the home has to do with anything.... but that's shoddy journalism for you

I can see the typical rs responses now

"fucking pigs, he could have tackled him"

[StylinRed]

http://communities.canada.com/vancouversun/resized-image.ashx/__size/400x0/__key/CommunityServer.Blogs.Components.WeblogFiles/realscoop/1145.Royal-Oak-suspect.jpg


Arrests in Tuesday's Burnaby Shooting

By Kim Bolan 23 Mar 2011 COMMENTS(2) The Real Scoop

Filed under: shooting, Real Scoop, Kim Bolan, Vancouver Sun, Burnaby RCMP

Burnaby RCMP are recommending charges against two teens and a 22-year-old arrested after the rush-hour shooting at the Royal Oak Skytrain station Tuesday. One of the arrests is pictured left in this RCMP handout photo.

The 22-year-old was the gunman, Sgt. Ted De Jager said. Names of the two older suspects will be released when they are formally charged and make their first appearance. The identity of the youngest suspect, whose 15, is protected by the Youth Criminal Justice Act.
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Three+arrested+Royal+SkyTrain+shooting/4493072/story.html

quick; full story


Three men arrested in Royal Oak SkyTrain shooting

Police will be recommending charges of attempted murder against one of the men
VANCOUVER -- Three people have been arrested in connection with a daytime shooting at Royal Oak SkyTrain station Tuesday afternoon.

A 22-year-old Surrey man believed to be the shooter, along with an 18-year-old from Burnaby and a 15-year-old from an undetermined area, were arrested around 1:30 p.m. Wednesday after a short pursuit, said Sgt. Ted De Jager of the Burnaby RCMP.

"When we attempted to arrest them [at a Surrey residence] they attempted to flee in a vehicle," De Jager said. "They abandoned that vehicle and a short foot pursuit with the three of them ensued and they were arrested together."

Police will be recommending charges of attempted murder against the 22-year-old, De Jager said. Charges are pending against the other two suspects.

Police received multiple 911 calls around 5:10 p.m. on Wednesday after a 22-year-old Surrey man was shot while ascending the stairs to the central Royal Oak SkyTrain station platform. The man, who suffered non-life-threatening-injuries, then boarded a train to Edmonds station, where police attended to him.

De Jager said it is too early to say whether there are any links to drugs or gangs.

"We know that it was a targeted shooting but exactly what their relationship to each other is, and what they're involved in, that's something that we'll have to continue to investigate," De Jager said.

De Jager did not know if the victim was being cooperative with police.

awoo@vancouversun.com

© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun


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As for todays shooting



Another Fatal Police Shooting in Surrey
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/4493184.bin
By Kim Bolan 23 Mar 2011 COMMENTS(3) The Real Scoop


Just weeks after Adam Purdie was fatally shot when he pointed a gun at a Surrey RCMP officer, another Surrey man has been killed in a police shooting.

Vancouver Police are now investigating the shooting. Const. Lindsey Houghton said RCMP responded to a 911 call about 2 p.m. from a female asking for help with domestic dispute. Neighbours reported seeing a woman flee from the house and jump over a neighbour's fence.

Thiessen could not confirm neighbourhood rumours that the situation had been a domestic dispute and the man had been waving a gun when police arrived.

Read more: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/shot+dead+RCMP+Crescent+Beach+area/4492464/story.html#ixzz1HU50YpAO


supposedly he was waving a gun

[Mr.Money]

^^^ & asking for it....couple of people living night door heard his last word's..."Fuck You!!!..."...then the police were like 'PUT THE GUN DOWN.."...."SHOOT ME!!!!,FUK U SHOOT ME!!!"

about 5 shot's were let go from the cops and their not saying who did the shooting.

[StylinRed]

23yr old guy Brendon Beddow


http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Police+identify+shot+RCMP+near+Crescent+Beach/4496945/story.html

METRO VANCOUVER - Vancouver Police have identified a man shot to death by Surrey RCMP Wednesday as 23-year-old Brendon Beddow.

Beddow has had minor run-ins with the law according to the provincial court data base.



driving while prohibited, possession for the purposes (pled to possession), and a possession charge when he was 18/19

[fliptuner]

WTF going on in Surrey today?

158 and 90th, 13 YO shot in the back at Woodland Park Elementary and the shooter ran into a house that's now on fire. Just saw it on the news.

Can't find anything online yet, just heard it on the noon news.

edit: only thing I found so far

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110325/bc_surrey_shots_fired_fire_110325/20110325?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

[drunkrussian]

fuck, surrey this surrey that. They need to jail all these lil assholes in surrey and Metro Vancouver's overall dumbass-youth-with-guns crime rate will hopefully fall.

[saucywoman]

WTF going on in Surrey today?

158 and 90th, 13 YO shot in the back at Woodland Park Elementary and the shooter ran into a house that's now on fire. Just saw it on the news.

Can't find anything online yet, just heard it on the noon news.

edit: only thing I found so far

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20110325/bc_surrey_shots_fired_fire_110325/20110325?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

yeah wtf!!!! Craziness
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[hotjoint]

wow thats close by my house

[gdoh]

wha-wha-what thats fucked

like less than 5 mins from my house

[ajei]

lol...there's guns laying around the house in the pics from that real estate link (a few posts back)

[invader]

saw that chopper ambulance fly by when i was at the dog park. I was like wtf? Now it makes sense.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Nine rounds just went off @ the corner of Alderbridge and Westminster Hwy in Richmond. Car drove off heading northbound on Alderbridge. Couldn't see the target vehicle.

[drunkrussian]

fuuu was just there at that exact intersection for doctor appointment. good thing doc appointments are during daytime and shootouts arent lol
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[AWDTurboLuvr]

Yeah man, I had my patio door opened at that time and it was super loud...effin' scared the shit outta my wife and dog.

[seakrait]

Nine rounds just went off @ the corner of Alderbridge and Westminster Hwy in Richmond. Car drove off heading northbound on Alderbridge. Couldn't see the target vehicle.

crazy. and i used to think richmond was safe. :(

http://www.news1130.com/radio/article/204868--no-injuries-after-richmond-gunfire

[scottsman]

crazy. and i used to think richmond was safe.

How does this make Richmond unsafe?

[Vansterdam]

Lol Richmond aint safe it's full of triad members
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[Spidey]

Too many stories of "uncooperative" witnesses/victims... oh well, they die, they die

[firebird79_00]

Did something happen last night near oak and king edward? i kept hearing siren after siren just dying in that area?

[J____]

Nine rounds just went off @ the corner of Alderbridge and Westminster Hwy in Richmond. Car drove off heading northbound on Alderbridge. Couldn't see the target vehicle.

that really sucked for me. I was in the building at my friends and got blocked in by the police and wasn't able to leave for 5 hours. Got home at 3am and work at 8....

[adambomb]

IHIT is investigating a police-involved shooting that happened right outside the Vancouver police department in the Downtown Eastside this morning.

Emergency reports indicated violence broke out around 10 a.m. at Gore Avenue and Cordova Street.

Police taped off a block in the area and a burgundy van could be seen in the middle of the intersection, surrounded by police cars. An officer at the scene would only say that “a bad guy got shot.”

Cpl. Dale Carr released a statement at 1:30 p.m. saying “IHIT has been called in to conduct the investigation into the police involved shooting in Vancouver.”

There are no details about the deceased’s identity.

At the scene, an area resident who did not want to be named, told a Province reporter “a Chinese drug dealer got shot in the van.”



Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/IHIT+investigating+police+shooting+Downtown+Eastsi de/4591390/story.html#ixzz1J9pv0DBk

[Roach]

^ What a vague story.

Kev

[StylinRed]

^^ the same story was updated

sounds like a rookie may have been a little too nervous because the IHIT officer in charge of the investigation simply said the victim "produced a weapon" rather than say "brandished weapon threateningly @ officers" or "attempted to attack officers" etc


A man is recovering in hospital after being shot by a Vancouver police officer in the Downtown Eastside Sunday morning.

Cpl. Dale Carr of the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team (IHIT) said a VPD officer shot the 47-year-old man during a routine patrol after a confrontation turned violent. (routine patrol leading to a violent confrontation? or a routine stop after a violent confrontation occurred? shitty reporting)

“The man produced a weapon, which caused one of the two police officers to draw his service pistol and fire an undetermined amount of rounds at the individual,” he said.

The shooting victim, whose name has not been released, was rushed to hospital for surgery.

Emergency reports indicated violence broke out around 10 a.m. at Gore Avenue and Cordova Street.

Police taped off a block surrounding the area and a burgundy van could be seen in the middle of the intersection, surrounded by police cars. An officer at the scene would only say that “a bad guy got shot.”

In a statement, VPD said the two officers involved have 18 months and 19 years of service, respectively, with the VPD.

The shooting occurred just up the street from the Vancouver Police Department and behind the downtown community court, an area which sees heavy street drug dealing.

While few details are known, an area resident who is part of the local drug culture told a Province reporter “a Chinese drug dealer got shot in the van.”

IHIT is sometimes brought in by other police agencies to investigate officer-involved shootings.

Police in B.C. have been long criticized for investigating their own. Two recent commissions of public inquiry, the Davies Commission in 2009 and the Braidwood Inquiry in 2010, recommended that police stop investigating themselves.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/IHIT+investigating+police+shooting+Downtown+Eastsi de/4591390/story.html#ixzz1JCy6Zi00

[white_guilt]

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/IHIT+investigating+police+shooting+Downtown+Eastsi de/4591390/story.html#ixzz1J9pv0DBk

lol happened on Gore Avenue.

[ch1ck3nb0i]

lol at "fire an undetermined amount of rounds at the individual"

[dignatas]

Lol Richmond aint safe it's full of triad members
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i am sure it is the driving sense of some people. Those triad members in the TnT and Aberdeen parking lots with the luxury mercedez and BMW. Damn C-lai bitches

[StylinRed]

So the guy that was shot is NOT known to police

He's in critical condition

apparently he was carrying a weapon (reportedly a knife, unconfirmed)

1 of the officers (rookie i bet) fired an undetermined amount of shots @ the victim and the police wont release the amount of shots fired
VANCOUVER — A 47-year-old man is in critical condition after he was shot by two Vancouver police officers in the Downtown Eastside early Sunday.

The Integrated Homicide Investigation Team was called in to investigate because incidents involving police officers require an independent body, said Cpl. Dale Carr, who confirmed the case did not involve a homicide.

Carr said the two officers were on regular patrol duties in the area of Gore Avenue and Cordova Street at around 9:45 a.m. The area where the shooting happened is near the Vancouver police department in a part of the city known for drugs and crime.

As police neared the intersection, a man approached them wielding a weapon. Carr would not confirm earlier reports that the man was holding a knife.

One of the officers pulled out a gun and shot the man. Carr said investigators are not releasing the number of shots fired.

The man was treated by ambulance attendants and taken to the hospital where he underwent surgery for a gunshot wound. He remained in critical condition and his family has been notified.

The victim is not known to police, he said.

Vancouver police officers released very few details about what happened but VPD spokeswoman Const. Jana McGuinness said the two officers involved have 18 months, and 19 years of service with the VPD.

IHIT is interviewing more than a dozen witnesses and hope to have a clearer idea of what happened when that investigation is complete, said Carr.

Traffic was blocked from Powell to Hastings streets and between Gore and Main streets while homicide detectives investigated.

Drew Snider, a spokesman for TransLink, said buses that travel on Cordova were being diverted and as a result some were running behind schedule.

ticrawford@vancouversun.com

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[boss604]

lol cops are shooting everyone

[InvisibleSoul]

Sounds like someone needed a bit more training.

[El Bastardo]

http://i53.tinypic.com/27zd6jb.jpg

[StylinRed]

it was getting a little quiet...

[carmaniac]

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/218430--man-shot-to-death-after-minor-car-crash-in-surrey

SURREY (NEWS1130) -If you were in the area of 128th Street and 68th Avenue in Surrey just before 11 last night, homocide investigators want to talk to you, especially if you noticed a white SUV driving erratically.

Police are trying to find the killer responsible for a deadly shooting last night.
Corporal Dale Carr with IHIT says the 30-year-old man was hit during a confrontation with a driver after a minor car crash. "The Ford Explorer apparently crossed the centre line and came into contact with a Lexus. That's when the driver of the Lexus stopped, exited, and went over to confront the driver of the SUV."

The victim is a 30-year-old Surrey man who police say got out of his Lexus to confront the driver of a white SUV after a minor car crash. That's when he was shot, perhaps several times. A witness tells News1130 he heard at least six shots just after 11 p.m..
Paramedics were seen providing CPR to the victim. Carr tells us the man was pronounced dead when he was taken to hospital.

The man police are looking for sped away from the scene. "The driver is described as a South Asian male -- very general description -- driving a white SUV, thought to be a Ford Explorer, with a silver trim along the bottom of the vehicle," explains Carr.

He can't yet say if there's any connection -- gang or otherwise -- between the drivers of the two high-end vehicles, or if this is a disturbing case of road rage.
Anyone who was in the area around the time of the shooting is asked to contact the IHIT tip line at 1-877-551-IHIT (4448) or Crimestoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS.

Shit's FUCKED! Looks like the victim was driving a white Lexus IS...and since when is a Ford Explorer a "high-end vehicle"?

RIP to the victim...

[StylinRed]

http://www.news1130.com/news/local/article/218430--man-shot-to-death-after-minor-car-crash-in-surrey

Shit's FUCKED! Looks like the victim was driving a white Lexus IS...and since when is a Ford Explorer a "high-end vehicle"?

RIP to the victim...

that's what i said about both vehicles



If this was planned, the killer is an idiot for crashing into the guy he could have destroyed his getaway or left evidence

if this was road rage he'll have been spotted @ a club/bar getting drunk (drunk since he went into oncoming)

I'm having trouble believing it was planned... because he was coming from the other side of the street... unless he was waiting for the Lexus to arrive to crash into him; then his car would have likely been spotted parked @ the scene in wait

[invader]

I live very close to where this happened. Heard the chopper flying around and lots of police sirens. Shits crazy man.

[invader]

http://www.globaltvbc.com/world/shot+killed+Surrey+possible+road+rage+incident/4690109/story.html

[shenmecar]

whoa

[Roach]

Makes me sick to my stomach.

Kev

[quasi]

Highly doubt it's just roadrage.

[InvisibleSoul]

WTF... I sure hope there's more to the story... because that's crazy if the Lexus driver just wanted to go get the insurance details of the Explorer...

[Harvey Specter]

Same, I doubt it was roadrage.

[StylinRed]

http://www.globaltvbc.com/world/shot+killed+Surrey+possible+road+rage+incident/4690109/story.html

Oh they were both traveling South? I thought the explorer was heading the opposite direction (apparently north)

[Teh Doucher]

It was a case of road rage. The guy that died was a friends, best friends cousins husband. The guy was recently marrried and had been in canada for only a month. Its a completely senseless and immoral act that someone has commited.

Sorry for spelling mistakes, on tthe phone typing quick as I am at work
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[Teh Doucher]

Oh they were both traveling South? I thought the explorer was heading the opposite direction (apparently north)

They were both headed north, that part of 128th is 2 lines northbound and southbound with a divider in between.
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[StylinRed]

wow... horrible

i thought it may have turned out to be road rage since the police didn't issue the usual comments of "known to police" etc


simply despicable... wow

[Teh Doucher]

I travel that road 3-4 times a day... I'm absolutely disgusted that something like this could happen.
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[Mr.C]

Fuck, I drive there all the time.

Holy shit, sounds like something that happens in Brazil from time to time. And what pisses me off the most is that the bullshit justice here in Canada will only give this guy like 10 years in jail, if he is caught. I hope he's not a citizen, so we can throw his ass on a plane or something.

We *need* tougher laws in Canada for illegal possession of firearms. Bet that he didn't have a permit.

[vafanculo]

This really is BS.

I don't mind when gangsters get popped, but this coulda happened to any one of us.
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[Presto]

We *need* tougher laws in Canada for illegal possession of firearms. Bet that he didn't have a permit.

Yah... I bet the criminals would just be quivering if that happened. Meanwhile, us regular, law-abiding citizens have to do epic battle with red tape to get a frickin' .22 from Crappy Tire.

[- kT]

^^ exactly, which is why i was hoping it wasn't just a random incident of road rage and some drunk dipshit or something

i mean what was the guy in the lexus supposed to do, just sit in the car?

[Mr.C]

Yah... I bet the criminals would just be quivering if that happened. Meanwhile, us regular, law-abiding citizens have to do epic battle with red tape to get a frickin' .22 from Crappy Tire.

I am not anti-gun. I am, however, in favor of HARSH penalties for people caught without a permit/with an unregistered weapon. Are you against that? Do you think it should be the current system where people get probation for firearms offenses? Because, seriously, someone caught with an illegal gun will give two shits about probation. :rolleyes:

[originalhypa]

but this coulda happened to any one of us.

agreed.
So close to home.
:(

Because, seriously, someone caught with an illegal gun will give two shits about probation. :rolleyes:

Agreed.
The problem is, if you start putting the criminals in jail, you'll soon run out of room. So you need new jails to be built, which aren't cheap. Next thing you know, your political opponents are calling you "wasteful". Where the hell are the Liberals going to put the criminals?

Oh yeah, the Liberals let them walk because criminals are victims in the Liberal view.

:fuckyea:

[winks]

It was a case of road rage. The guy that died was a friends, best friends cousins husband. The guy was recently marrried and had been in canada for only a month. Its a completely senseless and immoral act that someone has commited.

Sorry for spelling mistakes, on tthe phone typing quick as I am at work
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u mean he was in canada for a month after he got married? because he was living in canada for a lot longer time as he had a "few" drinking and driving charges against him

[Harvey Specter]

So I heard the victim in the Surrey shooting was running away from someone and it had to do with drugs/money.

[Roach]

What is his name? Haven't seen anything released yet.

Kev

[jigga250]

u mean he was in canada for a month after he got married? because he was living in canada for a lot longer time as he had a "few" drinking and driving charges against him

hmmmm, something doesn't add up /sherlock

[Roach]

Damn. Small world. Found out the victim was a good friend of mine in elementary school I moved at the end of grade 7 so we never stayed in touch. He went to Matheson after.

http://www.cireport.ca/2011/04/surrey-manbir-kajla-shot-to-death-by.html

Kev

[drunkrussian]

sounds liek the guy got a lil tipsy, went for a drive, hit the guy then stepped out and was a dick about it. so he got shot by the other dumbass. could this have been avoided had he stayed calm?
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[EXV603]

I got home about 10 minutes before this shooting happened and live only about 10 houses away.