[rawr]

Is 23.5k for an ITR with rust on both quarters and that badly needs an engine rebuild
1. A good buy
2. A rip off
3. Current market value ?

Gotta be crazy to spend 23 grand on a rusty 20 year old car needing an engine rebuild

[trollface]

Gotta be crazy to spend 23 grand on a rusty 20 year old car needing an engine rebuild

What if it's a Ferrari GTO?

[underscore]

Gotta be crazy to spend 23 grand on a rusty 20 year old car needing an engine rebuild

Americans have been doing that like crazy with JDM stuff.

[TouringTeg]

I am curious too. I feel like it was a fair deal but I will let you guys be the judge.

I would have driven it a few more years before doing an OEM rebuild.

Keep in mind that the 2001 CDM is pretty rare. It was the only ITR that received full red interior. Just 185 built.

[Gerbs]

Is it bad to have a heavy foot? Most people I know accelerate sports cars pretty hard.

Iv seen the way he drive.. he got a heavy foot lmao...

[TouringTeg]

^ I think we all drive our cars hard. God knows my ITR has been driven hard for the majority of it's 170kms. It begs for it. 24hrs straight of beating on it from Victoria to LA is another story.

My TE37 are up for sale here:
https://www.revscene.net/forums/716241-volk-te37-15x7-35-5x114-3-a.html#post8952259

https://i.imgur.com/yiv0Df9.jpg

[OEMSiR]

anyone looking for some te37s 16x7s...

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-tires-rims/calgary/volk-rays-te37-dc2-itr-16x7/1366090675

[westopher]

Americans have been doing that like crazy with JDM stuff.
Its not that crazy.
Buy it for 23k, spend 20k on it and you have a perfect car that you know how everything was done. Then your 43k ITR is exactly what you want. People are spending most of that on cars that appear good then turn out to need most of the same work. The moral of the story, all 20 year old cars are pieces of shit, it just depends how much of a piece of shit they are haha. Its exactly the same across the board. Every 964 I have looked at is trash, my e36 is trash, e30s are all trash. Unless they have been restored you can spend it all at once at the beginning, or spend it through the life of the car if you want to enjoy it.

[underscore]

Its not that crazy.
Buy it for 23k, spend 20k on it and you have a perfect car that you know how everything was done. Then your 43k ITR is exactly what you want. People are spending most of that on cars that appear good then turn out to need most of the same work. The moral of the story, all 20 year old cars are pieces of shit, it just depends how much of a piece of shit they are haha. Its exactly the same across the board. Every 964 I have looked at is trash, my e36 is trash, e30s are all trash. Unless they have been restored you can spend it all at once at the beginning, or spend it through the life of the car if you want to enjoy it.

That's what I find crazy, a lot of them are paying premium prices for not-premium cars. I've seen cars with the same mileage as mine but zero maintenance done (let alone all the other work I did) sell for more than what I was asking for my car.

[Iron Chef]

Engine work and body work are the most labour intensive jobs that require a specific skill set that diy can't do at home. This car requires both of them. I've seen cleaner cars for the same price.

The face that it's a stock 01 is pretty much canceled out by the rust and engine rebuild

[twitchyzero]

so he left it in 3rd gear for 24 hours down the interstate?

my head would explode after 20 minutes

[TouringTeg]

We'll never know. But admitted he was testing the top speed and was VTECing the whole way to keep up with the Gallardo and R34 GTR.

[The Producer]

We'll never know. But admitted he was testing the top speed and was VTECing the whole way to keep up with the Gallardo and R34 GTR.



The clicks and likes of “ blowing up my dream car on purpose for the exposure” will more than pay for the rebuild. Saw your IG post too - are they going to give it away? Raffles are a huge cash cow for youtubers these days. Bunch of the car channels are doing it.


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[TouringTeg]

Yes they posted a poll on their IG story asking if anyone would like to win the ITR in a raffle.

They have a new merchandise provider and website launching in a week so my guess is they will give away an entry for every purchase on the new site. Same provider as Tanner Fox. (More cringe).

[spoon.ek9]

^ I think we all drive our cars hard. God knows my ITR has been driven hard for the majority of it's 170kms. It begs for it. 24hrs straight of beating on it from Victoria to LA is another story.

My TE37 are up for sale here:
https://www.revscene.net/forums/716241-volk-te37-15x7-35-5x114-3-a.html#post8952259

https://i.imgur.com/yiv0Df9.jpg

Man, if I wasn't saving up for a place I would have bought these asap. Dream wheels for my EK!

[snake]

Damn! Been off RS for a couple months and missed my chance to buy TouringTeg’s ITR.

Was a good deal for both seller and buyer. DDE has the $ to bring it to showroom condition.

[thumper]

are these really worth this much?

2001 JDM Integra Type R $18,000 obo - $18000

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/vancouver-2001-jdm-integra-type-obo/6925425471.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00i0i_d3PMSUvZsCP_600x450.jpg

[tofu1413]

^ no.

[ub3rn3wbx2]

are these really worth this much?

2001 JDM Integra Type R $18,000 obo - $18000

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/vancouver-2001-jdm-integra-type-obo/6925425471.html

https://images.craigslist.org/00i0i_d3PMSUvZsCP_600x450.jpg

You can import one for yourself for A LOT less than their asking price. I just imported a dc2 ITR and they actually go for more than a dc5. You could probably import a dc5 similar to the one in the ad for 10-13k landed. So no way that car is worth 18k.

[GS8]

Yeah but this one comes with F.O.T

Female Ownership Tax

[twitchyzero]

You can import one for yourself for A LOT less than their asking price. I just imported a dc2 ITR and they actually go for more than a dc5. You could probably import a dc5 similar to the one in the ad for 10-13k landed. So no way that car is worth 18k.

yeah but can you test drive it? how much to get it registered?

i think if they'll sell for 15k that's pretty fair

only 3 more years until the FD2R is importable

[BIC_BAWS]

Yeah but this one comes with F.O.T



Female Ownership Tax$3K tax, previously sold for 15K

Does FOT still count if she looks like a man?

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[320icar]

Does FOT still count if she looks like a man?

Same person who owns the itr db8? :p

[BIC_BAWS]

Same person who owns the itr db8? :pYeah I think she owns or owned a db8r, as well owns a dc2r. Good taste in cars..

Man I want a db8r.

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[teggy604]

You can import DC5R for like 10-12 grand registered. They are not really popular.
18000 is more EK9R price.

[TouringTeg]

I wonder if Americans will want them. If that is the case DC5R is a performance bargain that will possibly increase in value.

[320icar]

Who did? Getting that sick golden hour light

https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/48296077977_d20f8e1585_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gzL2nB)

Also I figured out where the white CTR in my neighbourhood lives. 190e 2.3 in driveway, used to have a mk1 mr2. Y’all gotta be on here

[GS8]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2ncEJBeDFM

Not quite Type-R but, man, what a sleeper. I never realized back in the day.

[rawr]

FK8 owners - how much are you paying per month for financing? And how much for insurance per year?

[trollface]

Can't you find every possible financing scenario on the Honda payment calc?

[tofu1413]

FK8 owners - how much are you paying per month for financing? And how much for insurance per year?

looks like payment starts at 694 per month tax in, 0 down, 84 months at 5.24% through Honda finance.

insurance pending on your driving history.......... pretty sure you can get a quote by calling any icbc autoplan.

[trollface]

Do ppl really finance cars over 7 years @ 5%+?

That's....interesting

[underscore]

People go for some absolutely terrible financing. It's bad enough on a new vehicle, but some are doing it on 15+ year old JDM imports.

[tofu1413]

Do ppl really finance cars over 7 years @ 5%+?

That's....interesting

84, 96, 108 months... seen it.


then again they are open loans usually and lump sum payments are ok.

monthly payments have became much more affordable nowadays.... hence the amount of current STI's and Tacomas/4runner driving around town

[Indy]

84, 96, 108 months... seen it.


then again they are open loans usually and lump sum payments are ok.

monthly payments have became much more affordable nowadays.... hence the amount of current STI's and Tacomas/4runner driving around town

at this time of year, the STI has 60 @ 1.49% and if you have another recent MY subaru you may qualify for their loyalty finance discount and get that down to 60@0.50%

[TouringTeg]

love that PY ITR

[GS8]

People go for some absolutely terrible financing. It's bad enough on a new vehicle, but some are doing it on 15+ year old JDM imports.

Never know what can happen in life too.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/sechelt-2017-dodge-journey-awd-take/6934980499.html

[underscore]

^ that too, you better have a good chunk of the payments covered right off the bat because for the first while what you owe on it is a lot more than the resale value.

[320icar]

You really have to be sure on your finances. I don’t see much of a problem with financing a vehicle as long as your smart about it! Any new vehicle is going to lose value, but you can minimize that by optioning it correctly and choosing a car you can sell easily if need be. The focus ST/RS fall into that category

I remember my first girlfriend bought a Chevy aveo or something before we got together. By the time she still owed ~15,000 it was only worth $8,000 on the used market. Now THAT is the kind of vehicle you don’t buy lol

[tofu1413]

the people that bought / financed 1M's are laughing right now.

[trollface]

Niche M cars seem to always do well. Mcoupes etc.

[twitchyzero]

Not quite Type-R but, man, what a sleeper. I never realized back in the day.

i saw that on my feed, is this actually a review from the 90s or just retro style (60 fps threw me off lol)

[tofu1413]

Niche M cars seem to always do well. Mcoupes etc.


GT4 @ MSRP same thing. literally drive for free.

[tofu1413]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/wto/d/port-coquitlam-integra-type-15in-wheels/6935461595.html

anyone looking for stock wheels?

[Whatheshrek]

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/check-out-peter-cunninghams-awesome-acura-and-honda-collection/

[TouringTeg]

Competition white :( I'll let it slide since I enjoyed the story and pictures.

[alex.w *//]

https://youtu.be/9eYt_PG52Yk

[68style]

Dang... did that one guy just disrespect the Type-R sloshing energy drink on the valve cover while the damn plugs are out?!

[twitchyzero]

poor girl, being molested for the whole world to see :cry:

how many untouched Canadian MY01 left?

[TouringTeg]

I tracked down about 40 of the 185 CDM 2001 cars. Some don't want to share badges and there are more hidden out there. Maybe 90 left? Can't be many.

The ITR will likely be a "buy some merch and get an entry to win" type of contest.

[Oshiguru]

The ITR will likely be a "buy some merch and get an entry to win" type of contest.

Just like the 1M giveaway from obsessed garage. Spend $30-40 USD on a hat for one entry!!111!11
:heckno:

[GS8]

Just like the 1M giveaway from obsessed garage. Spend $30-40 USD on a hat for one entry!!111!11
:heckno:

So is it like those lotteries for BC Children's Hospital?

But in this case, rather than the money going towards children, it's going towards douchebags?

[SkunkWorks]

Also zero assurance their buddy coincidentally "wins" the lottery draw too.

[trollface]

So is it like those lotteries for BC Children's Hospital?

But in this case, rather than the money going towards children, it's going towards douchebags?

Yes, but except the BC Hospital, ones are legit and going to a good cause. Their buddy will just end up willing etc.

[68style]

Well, ostensibly you’re buying merchandise for yourself and that spending is your entry... it’s not a donation... if they do run it like other places do.

One would hope you actually wanted said merchandise and aren’t just buying it for an entry...

[tofu1413]

Man, money is one thing, but selling ITRs, really need to screen the next owner.

no different from interviewing the boyfriend that dates your daughter.

[underscore]

Well, ostensibly you’re buying merchandise for yourself and that spending is your entry... it’s not a donation... if they do run it like other places do.

One would hope you actually wanted said merchandise and aren’t just buying it for an entry...

Paying $30 for a $5 hat to advertise for someone else and get an entry is basically a donation to them. The wording can differ but the net result is the same.

I wonder if these guys are required to properly register with BCLC for such a thing.

[Jmac]

Any commercial contest in Canada would fall under the laws and regulations of the Competition Bureau of Canada and the Competition Act.

If you suspect they’re not abiding by the law, file a complaint with the Competition Bureau.

[trollface]

Paying $30 for a $5 hat to advertise for someone else and get an entry is basically a donation to them. The wording can differ but the net result is the same.

I wonder if these guys are required to properly register with BCLC for such a thing.

I'm sure there are lot of ways to steer away from regulations. They can say you're buying a hat, and it comes with a chance to win something later. Just like when you buy Tim Horton's coffee, you can win a car, but that's not gambling.

[The Producer]

like everything these clowns do, they're just jumping on the bandwagon

many auto YT's have given away vehicles over the past few years. There's a law corp that handles the contracts for all of them, handles the draws etc. DDE is just promoting a lottery being run by a completely different organization, while receiving a huge pump from the merch sales. This setup is different than the private BS Facebook raffles/waffles that have cropped up recently. For better or worse these YT giveaways are legit.

Real YT money these days comes from the merch, not the views. Giveaways drive merch sales, and tap into the "loot chest" mentality. They'll make a bundle on this in real money + the exposure.

It's super unlikely that canadians will be eligible to enter as it's way more complicated for the lawyers ($$$) unless they think their local fan base here is worth the trouble

[OEMSiR]

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/pts/d/miami-2000-acura-integra-type/6940360446.html

[tofu1413]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/cto/d/langley-2001-acura-integra-type/6954432121.html

its backkkk.

[PLUJ]

Oh cool! I remember following the rebuild of that one back in the day. https://www.team-integra.net/threads/agrats-itr-repair.209764/

[Y2K_o__o]

You can import one for yourself for A LOT less than their asking price. I just imported a dc2 ITR and they actually go for more than a dc5. You could probably import a dc5 similar to the one in the ad for 10-13k landed. So no way that car is worth 18k.

depends on what year spec
96 spec dc2R in general are less expensive
May be less than $10K for a Grade 3?

[tofu1413]

96' spec R nowadays have increased quite a bit... i think they should go for around 9-10k landed nowadays for a half decent example.

[TouringTeg]

96 R starting to creep up as USA buyers starting to get involved.

I asked Kevin (former 01 ITR rebuild owner) a few questions about the car. It has no AC and no floor mats. Car had 16" Volk CE28 and red Recaro front seats when sold to current owner. Suspension is Tein Circuit Master Super Racing that cost him $2700 USD. Has Skunk2 Pro Series Plus camber kits front and rear.

[twitchyzero]

96spec also the lightest by a large margin over usdm

rhd might not go auction-crazy but the days of people scoffing at them here might be over soon...the difference might be end up being 10-25% vs 40-50% cheaper

they're generally in better condition too (if you ok with likely a smoker history)

[tofu1413]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/burnaby-1999-civic-type/6955093112.html

[white rocket]

Another one: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-acura-integra-type-r-25/

That rust though. Long time owner and contributor to the ITR Expo and related groups. Super nice dude.

[trollface]

That rust doesn't look that bad at all. The bottom of my 2013 looks like that.

[underscore]

That bit of surface rust on the removable components seems like nothing to me, it would be easy enough to get cleaned up if it really bugged someone though. I'm more intrigued by what look to be some funky horns in the front end from below shot lol.

[white rocket]

Yea, he mentioned having an air horn set up but it is not working currently.

Agreed that the rust isn't a huge deal but comparative to others that have come through BaT, it will hurt the sale. That versus a completely rust free underside could sway pricing by thousands.

[68style]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/burnaby-1999-civic-type/6955093112.html

Love this, hate "make me an offer" ads

LOL at offering to store it for 5 years for an American

[tofu1413]

yellow ITR looks pretty good.

the surface stuff is just superficial. Nothing a day of removing the suspension arms, forks and the subframe, then spending some time in a sand blast booth.

looks like a nice driving example that'll require minimal elbow grease. will be a nice buy for someone.

[Jgresch]

Love this, hate "make me an offer" ads

LOL at offering to store it for 5 years for an American

Even more LOL at the comparison listing photos with cars that have been for sale for 4+ years... Nobody was buying those when they were $10k

[underscore]

LOL at offering to store it for 5 years for an American

I know someone that stored an ST205 Celica for 2 years for an American, but then that's a car that's not available down there at all.

[twitchyzero]

guy is probably expecting well over 20k for his blue smoke example

[SumAznGuy]

Just saw this on CL.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/wto/d/vancouver-jdm-kosei-k1-racing-rims-15/6959674317.html

Ad says 5x100 but the sticker on the rim shows 5x114.3.

Perfect ITR fitment if they are 5x114.3

[daval]

Thats a steal

[TouringTeg]

I was wondering about those as well. Not sure why it says 5x100 and in the body?

Great track wheels.

[daval]

I think it goes with volk racing too. Stamped 5x100 on lip and decals say 5x114.3

[SumAznGuy]

I think it goes with volk racing too. Stamped 5x100 on lip and decals say 5x114.3

A lot of wheels use the same mold for their wheels and the only difference is the holes that are drilled into the wheels.

I know some wheels are stamped 4x100 and 5x100 and then the sellers post that on their ads while you can see dual 5 bolt patters in the wheels.

Quite funny seeing for sale posts where they say dual 4x100 and 5x100 bolt patterns.

[shiesty]

So are those 5x100 or 5x144.3?

[Expresso]

Love this, hate "make me an offer" ads

LOL at offering to store it for 5 years for an American

There's americans who are buying R34s already and storing it till they can import lol.

[68style]

There's americans who are buying R34s already and storing it till they can import lol.

I can kind of understand that, a proper and rare-spec R34 is a pretty high end and expensive car.

[SumAznGuy]

So are those 5x100 or 5x144.3?

I'm gonna take a look at the wheels tonight and will report back.

Just don't be surprised they are on my car. FailFish

[shiesty]

I'm gonna take a look at the wheels tonight and will report back.

Just don't be surprised they are on my car. FailFish

Sick deal if they're the correct bolt pattern

[SumAznGuy]

Didn't get to see the wheels.
Owner messaged me to say they were sold.

Hopefully they are going to someone here.

[G.McPossum]

Check out this basket case

1997 Honda Integra Type R, B18 DOHC VTEC Engine, 230HP ONLY 112,262Kms Outside Victoria, Victoria - MOBILE (http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/1997-Honda-Integra-Type-R-B18-DOHC-VTEC-Engine-230HP-ONLY-112262Kms_30586307.lite)

I ended up buying this for $7k after taxes.

No rust, no prior damage, and the engine ran strong. Came with some Spoon parts installed (including a Spoon ECU) and an exedy hyper single series clutch.
96’ spec JDM ITR.

Tossed in the proper seats and some other interior goodies.
Changed the timing belt/water pump/seals, motor mounts, upper strut bar, installed Tein flex-z’s (looking at getting EDFC Active-Pro), added 16x7 Enkei EDR9’s with firehawk indy 500’s, swapped out the whale penis intake for gruppe m, replaced the clutch/flywheel, added the type-r spoiler and some badges.

Images:
https://i.imgur.com/60WVwquh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LwJCW6Lh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ei7DCm5h.jpg

She's sitting at around 121k km now. I put her away early this season so I could get some more work done on her. I fixed the rear bumper sag btw.

Engine bay needs some tidying up. A few rusted bolts and some other odds and ends. Repainting the valve cover soon, followed by some work on the body and the wiring. Will eventually get around to a new exhaust setup.

Planning on returning her to champ white once I save up the funds. It's gonna be a long road to get her where I want her but it's been a fun project so far and she hasn't let me down.

USDM front end will be staying for the foreseeable future, sorry folks.

[RevYouUp]

nice! a rhd ITR with a 97 usdm front end is pretty neat

[OriginalJC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbMKtVtu7eo

:pokerface:

[trollface]

What am I looking at here?

[OriginalJC]

What am I looking at here?

Just my recent service at Honda :-P

[twitchyzero]

whoa batman
that orange with black recaro and wing/wheels actually looks quite exotic
i would double down and paint the jams/engine bay in orange to complete it
def put back the jdm front though!

[SumAznGuy]

I like that orange paint too.
I'd definitely say leave it that color.

Speaking of which, I saw the infamous Mugen Blue ITR parked in east Van the other day.
Been so long since I've seen that car.

[oldsnail]

Just my recent service at Honda :-P

The service guy is pretty happy

[SumAznGuy]

The service guy is pretty happy

yeah, better check the seats for funny white stains. :fuckyea:

[Indy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbMKtVtu7eo

:pokerface:

I don't know why but I kept thinking the in picture was a camera out the back and thought "he just reversed out of that bay pretty quickly" lol

[RevYouUp]

I like that orange paint too.
I'd definitely say leave it that color.

Speaking of which, I saw the infamous Mugen Blue ITR parked in east Van the other day.
Been so long since I've seen that car.

Didn't it get sold to someone in Alberta , I guess it's back

[G.McPossum]

whoa batman
that orange with black recaro and wing/wheels actually looks quite exotic
i would double down and paint the jams/engine bay in orange to complete it
def put back the jdm front though!

The paint job was actually pretty high quality and the jams are already done. Painting the engine bay never crossed my mind but I like that idea. Currently when I pop the hood the car looks like a creamsicle.

It's been a love/hate relationship with the orange, it draws a lot of attention but it looks good. I think a JDM front would make it pop even more. I'll have to put some thought into that. Keep the orange and add a JDM front, or keep the USDM front and paint the car white hmm...

[BIC_BAWS]

I don't know why but I kept thinking the in picture was a camera out the back and thought "he just reversed out of that bay pretty quickly" lolCause usually people have the main video as front camera and the in picture as rear camera.

What dashcam let's you record both front of the car and cabin view? Aside from this, what benefit does cabin view provide?

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[red kryptonite]

rs discount $2200 for the ctr owners

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Volk-Racing-TE37RT_34667447

[BIC_BAWS]

rs discount $2200 for the ctr owners



https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Volk-Racing-TE37RT_34667447Didn't you have this on a black e90? It looked great!

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[OriginalJC]

Cause usually people have the main video as front camera and the in picture as rear camera.

What dashcam let's you record both front of the car and cabin view? Aside from this, what benefit does cabin view provide?

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The dash cam is a Toguard, and I think it is typically used for Taxi/Uber/lyft drivers.
I went with this one specifically to capture fun clips like this, but also to cover myself in case I ever got into an accident/pulled over, I would have video showing I wasn't using my cell phone or something :-P

[twitchyzero]

rs discount $2200 for the ctr owners

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Volk-Racing-TE37RT_34667447

nice wheels but didn't you already post this in CL good buys

[SumAznGuy]

Didn't it get sold to someone in Alberta , I guess it's back

I remember it was for sale a little while back when it was in Alberta.

I guess someone in BC bought the car.

[red kryptonite]

Didn't you have this on a black e90? It looked great!

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thanks! e90 is gone now... bmw problems lol

[red kryptonite]

nice wheels but didn't you already post this in CL good buys
just trying to sell some nice wheels for a good price.

[teggy604]

Mint 97R with 6000 miles sold on BAT couple days ago for $82000 USD.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-acura-integra-type-r-4/

[twitchyzero]

in before ones in Vancouver list over original MSRP for their 20-owner 250k modified example

i KnO waT i GoT

[Bender Unit]

in before ones in Vancouver list over original MSRP for their 20-owner 250k modified example

i KnO waT i GoT
BAM~~ :fuckyea:

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch/cto/d/richmond-northeast-1998-acura-integra/6984651707.html

1998 Acura Integra Type R Turbo - $25000

[twitchyzero]

Seems priced well. I’d be on it if it wasn’t boosted and breaking necks with the VPD

[teggy604]

Seems priced well. I’d be on it if it wasn’t boosted and breaking necks with the VPD

I agree. Looks like its built right with good quality parts. I remembered the LED tail lights. Wonder if it was the same car few yrs ago that was on sale. But I think at that time it had a K20 in it?

[twitchyzero]

that was a 97, yes same led tails

[OEMSiR]

oh my...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCROs_3l7I&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2f3K2r5qTNzJ84zTEfnjN8Stm21VKz2b-v9uG1xi-_Dx2wXh7Eb_cBvdE

[TouringTeg]

Oh snap!! Acura recognizing the ITR!!

[tegra7]

Wonder if DDE lent them their itr to beat on. ��

[TouringTeg]

:stupid:

[Bender Unit]

:stupid:
Wasn't your ex have rare RED seats ?

[TouringTeg]

Yes I don't think the one in commercial is DDE ITR

[OEMSiR]

..

[teggy604]

Spoon is releasing their SW388 again, as well as Mugen with the MF-10.

[twitchyzero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX7FpUGS1U

[white rocket]

My ITR is live on BaT. Tell your U.S. friends. Lol!!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-acura-integra-type-r-32/

[TouringTeg]

You're gonna miss it! Ask me how I know.

[68style]

My ITR is live on BaT. Tell your U.S. friends. Lol!!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-acura-integra-type-r-32/

Can we still call you white rocket after it’s gone?

I pretty much can’t ever sell my 68 Mustang while I’m on Revscene lol

[Fafine]

the six-digit odometer shows just under 82k kilometers (~51k miles), 2,500 of which have been added by the seller.


You only drove it 2500 km?

[VR6GTI]

I’ve owned my second ITR for 2 years I’ve driven it less than 1,000km. :/

[twitchyzero]

all matching VINs?

[bomberR17]

You guys need to drive your Type R's more lol

[white rocket]

Can we still call you white rocket after it’s gone?

I pretty much can’t ever sell my 68 Mustang while I’m on Revscene lol

Lol! Of course. I tend to lean towards white vehicles anyway.

the six-digit odometer shows just under 82k kilometers (~51k miles), 2,500 of which have been added by the seller.


You only drove it 2500 km?

Yup. As prices rose I became afraid to drive it fearing a rear ender or worse. Then life took over and now I just don't have the time for a second vehicle.

all matching VINs?

Yes.

[SkunkWorks]

Damn. $23.5 USD, would've thought the car would do better given condition and miles.

Happy to see it's staying local however.

[bomberR17]

I thought it go higher too. I was hoping my bid of $16k would stay haha. My cutoff was at $20k.

[Groot]

Anyone with snow tires for CTR? What are the tire sizes ya’ll going for and rim size?

[cho]

Anyone with snow tires for CTR? What are the tire sizes ya’ll going for and rim size?

Im running 18x8 +45 on 225/40/18

[oldsnail]

I am using,
NEXEN WINGUARD SPORT 10305NXK 235/40R18 XL
18 x 8.5 5/120 +42

[SituAsian]

Just mounted 18x8 +40 FC04 with 235/45/18 Michelin X-Ice3.

[Groot]

are those white reflector strips?

[SituAsian]

are those white reflector strips?
Na, I just bought some cheapo white pinstripe on amazon. For $3 I decided ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Jaffray]

OE hood + wheels on, see you next year :alone:

If anyone has any leads on some Optional side skirts, cash+trade!

[tofu1413]

still pretty in storage mode :alone:

[tofu1413]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/richmond-southwest-98-integra-type-left/7025426236.html

[twitchyzero]

not bad if it's a bc car and has the front end work documented

[twitchyzero]

extended type-S hype trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTIme6yuvuE

[tegra7]

#makeacuragreatagain

[tofu1413]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/cto/d/port-coquitlam-central-1998-usdmlhd-dc2/7042964914.html

i suppose buddy guy that just bought it opened a can of worms...??

[blackGS?]

Whatever happened to the ITR that DDE bought?

[TouringTeg]

I hear the turbo 98 jdm front previously sold under 20k to this seller. Guess he couldn't get a buyer for the turbo setup. I like the body, susp and interior.

DDE still has the ITR stored in LA. It is BC registered still and I have the option to buy it back for $26k CAD. Head has been rebuilt and doesn't smoke anymore. Will need a clutch soon.

[twitchyzero]

:jizz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW4MYa7VjSg

opens the dash to remove a few dust specks haha

[nsx042003]

I don't know if i like how honda is releasing different colour civic type Rs. I would have just prefered it if they only offered Championship White.

O well...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2020-honda-civic-type-r-first-look-review/

[tofu1413]

Personally I do like the red on FK8

and I dont like the FK8 ...

[twitchyzero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn1PkleG978&feature=emb_logo

anyone wanna sell me their CTR ECU?

[oldsnail]

PY is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cKBOzc0l34


https://www.honda.ca/civic_type_r_le

[twitchyzero]

people are still blowing six figs on cars in a depression? WutFace

https://youtu.be/dYDqggxvu3I

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-acura-nsx-12/

[EndLeSS8]

people are still blowing six figs on cars in a depression? WutFace

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-acura-nsx-12/

If I was a millionaire, I would buy it. That thing is rare AF.

[tofu1413]

essentially a LHD version of the NSX type S

man. thats my favorite spec !

[TouringTeg]

You can have any colour as long as it is red.

Yes cars are still selling.

[ali36]

Anyone here experience brake squeal on there FK8? I'm thinking about swapping the front pads to Hawk HPS, just wondering if anyone here has experience with these and can comment on the noise and brake dust first hand.

[BIC_BAWS]

Anyone here experience brake squeal on there FK8? I'm thinking about swapping the front pads to Hawk HPS, just wondering if anyone here has experience with these and can comment on the noise and brake dust first hand.

Don't have a FK8, but I daily drive Hawk HP+ pads which are the more aggressive version of the HPS. HP+ are loud (they squeal like a train) and dusts heavily. However, good initial bite and they work in the cold. I imagine if the HP+ work in the cold, you should be safe with the HPS. From other reviews I've read HPS/HPS 5.0 are pretty crappy daily driving pads. Crappy pads in general - they're not good at anything. However, these reviews were mostly on BMW platforms (heavy car). A friend uses HPS/HPS 5.0 on his EG and he thinks they're great, so YMMV. Having said all that, I recently found out that Hawk compounds are corrosive and are not the best for your daily driven cars, especially if you don't wash it often or you want to keep your wheels in good condition.

A much more expensive option without corrosive brake dust would be Carbotech. Interestingly, if you run their street pads and then switch to track pads, you won't have to rebed your rotors.

I'm not sure if it's made for FK8 fitment, but many people have great reviews about Akebono brake pads. Low dust and no noise.

Hope that kind of helps!

[keifun]

Since this is the Type R thread, might as well post it here.

I'm looking for another fun car and the DC5 type R has always been my fave in terms of looks over the DC2.

Anyone here owns one? Some tips on what to check for? I've been in contact with some imports and their choices aren't that great, grade 3 or lower.

[OriginalJC]

Anyone here experience brake squeal on there FK8? I'm thinking about swapping the front pads to Hawk HPS, just wondering if anyone here has experience with these and can comment on the noise and brake dust first hand.

I replaced my oem pads with R1 concepts ceramic pads. Installed them myself, super easy.
No embarrassing squeaking, and brake dust is non existent :-)

[oldsnail]

Anyone here experience brake squeal on there FK8? I'm thinking about swapping the front pads to Hawk HPS, just wondering if anyone here has experience with these and can comment on the noise and brake dust first hand.

The stock BRAKES drove my wife nuts on the FK8.
tried to bed as best as possible and she still doesnt like it.
i swapped it with HAWK.. it is just the front brakes..

it is because.. race car brakes.. not dust

[TouringTeg]

Since this is the Type R thread, might as well post it here.

I'm looking for another fun car and the DC5 type R has always been my fave in terms of looks over the DC2.

Anyone here owns one? Some tips on what to check for? I've been in contact with some imports and their choices aren't that great, grade 3 or lower.

I haven’t owned one but the owner of this car just dropped the price from $18k to 16k. She has a lot of great Type R cars including DC2R and EP3R. If you don’t mind RHD they are a great choice.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/cto/d/vancouver-2001-jdm-integra-type/7096499933.html

[ali36]

Nice ended up getting Akebonos locally and putting them in today. I can feel the bite definitely isn't as good as stock but its quiet. I'll hang onto the stock pads if I ever get to do autocross or track day.

[TouringTeg]

Also: DC2R aftermarket parts for sale

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch/pts/d/richmond-northeast-dc2-integra-type/7107307371.html

[twitchyzero]

Since this is the Type R thread, might as well post it here.

I'm looking for another fun car and the DC5 type R has always been my fave in terms of looks over the DC2.

Anyone here owns one? Some tips on what to check for? I've been in contact with some imports and their choices aren't that great, grade 3 or lower.

aside from LSD and slightly higher output...they're mechanically similar to the rsx and ep3 civic so they share common issues (gear popouts, leaky trunk, dash rattles and lock actuator going)

they're the rx8 to the rx7, living in the shadows of the original ITR which means more affordable entry but much weaker resale..the one posted has been for sale for at least a year now (would imagine the buyers in the market would rather get a rsx-s for 2-3x less)

[ali36]

Just throwing it out there looking to buy an exhaust and intake for my FK8, hopefully someone here is looking to sell some parts off of their Type R

[S1 S2]

aside from LSD and slightly higher output...they're mechanically similar to the rsx and ep3 civic so they share common issues (gear popouts, leaky trunk, dash rattles and lock actuator going)

they're the rx8 to the rx7, living in the shadows of the original ITR which means more affordable entry but much weaker resale..the one posted has been for sale for at least a year now (would imagine the buyers in the market would rather get a rsx-s for 2-3x less)

The difference with K20A is more than just LSD, just the tranny alone is worth it compare to the K20A2 or the k20A3 you mentioned.

Speaking of which i have DC5 RHD Mugen intake box if anyone is interested :spamarama:

[320icar]

Spotted: CW CTR with red window banner going south on oak today at 11:45am. Tried to give you the thumbs up but you were busy mean-muggin’ at the red light. (I was in the flex not my RS).

Love the carbon rear wing, what is that?

[FAWKER]

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/bnc/cto/d/new-westminster-southwest-2001-acura/7118825062.html

[twitchyzero]

og owner, neatt
14k hit on an integra and not a write-off :fuckyea:

[twitchyzero]

CR originally from Honda's US HQ recently sold for too much

https://www.automobilemag.com/news/2008-honda-s2000-cr-record-auction-price/

[68style]

Fuck I remember back in 2009-2010 unsold S2000 CR's were all over Autotrader.com for under MSRP..........................

[TouringTeg]

They had trouble selling! Most people hated the spoiler and tonneau cover look. The ITR also languished on lots.
Now both are hot commodities.

OG owner bought in 2002 with free dealer installed AC. Talked to him last night. Great kswap track car candidate.

[twitchyzero]

CR came out at the peak of the last recession, they were being moved at around 25k new

maybe in a year this japanese collectors' bubble will burst and rx7 and supra will be available at less insane coin

[EndLeSS8]

The ITR also languished on lots.




REALLY??
Because from what I know (I could be wrong) both the ITR in Canada and USA were sold above MSRP with premiums. (Not that I could afford one at the time) but I called one of the Acura dealerships back in 1997 and they confirmed on the phone, that they were above MSRP

[SumAznGuy]

REALLY??
Because from what I know (I could be wrong) both the ITR in Canada and USA were sold above MSRP with premiums. (Not that I could afford one at the time) but I called one of the Acura dealerships back in 1997 and they confirmed on the phone, that they were above MSRP

I remember in 01, the ITR's were selling for $3000 above MSRP. But some "loyal" customers were getting them for below MSRP.

[SumAznGuy]

Great kswap track car candidate.

Please no. But then again the car doesn't have the original motor.

Curious to see what type of damage the car sustained to have a $14K hit and not be written off. wonder if it is Rebuilt status.

[VR6GTI]

Doesn’t say when the accident was. It could have been years ago when the vehicle was only a few years old.

[twitchyzero]

phat R had his repaired several years ago for 10k minimum iirc and still retained clean title

[TouringTeg]

I read stories about Acura dealers hiding some because they had too many down in the USA. The USA did not have a 1999 model. From what I read it was because 1998 models were not moving.

That 2001 may be sold. Less than 24hrs after listing.

[Expresso]

REALLY??
Because from what I know (I could be wrong) both the ITR in Canada and USA were sold above MSRP with premiums. (Not that I could afford one at the time) but I called one of the Acura dealerships back in 1997 and they confirmed on the phone, that they were above MSRP

When I was shopping around in late 2001 for a Prelude or GSR. Lougheed Acura had a brand new ITR sitting on their lot hidden in the very back. They were asking MRSP at the time, $31.5K?

I stupidly chose the Prelude to save cash and worry free ownership...sigh.

[TouringTeg]

That’s about right. Tofu said 32k MSRP

Apparently two people viewed ITR and bailed. It was a roll over accident.

[twitchyzero]

toothpick a pillars never gonna be the same again

[Rainei]

Yea but at least you'll get crushed by them minty fresh CDM red seats..

[tofu1413]

Good thing its red.

so your blood doesnt quite stain on it. just looks like dirty red alcantara.

[EndLeSS8]

This is just a side question, I don't want to derail the thread.

That ITR selling for $18k right now, how bad is a rollover for the car?

Thank god I've never been in such an accident before, but I'm honestly wanting to know (I'm not going to buy it, no $$$, but I am just wanting to know to be more aware of stuff)

[VR6GTI]

Roll over vehicles are usually written off, most cases when a vehicle gets rolled, a complete side gets heavily damaged, air bags deploy, roofs cave in, windshields, backglass all break, then you have fluid leakage from engines, gas tank etc.
It would be interesting to see some pics if the owners has any in this case

[twitchyzero]

if you treat it as a rebuilt (price has to really reflect this) and put in a cage for track use only it's probably okay?

[underscore]

That's assuming the repairs were done at least half decently and the pillars and roof aren't rusting internally.

edit: I missed the 400k part initially. At that mileage it's only going to be good as a beater or a shell for a project, but the price is really high for a beater and the shell is likely fucked internally.

[TouringTeg]

A friend looked it and it’s not bad. But then you have a 400km roll over rusty non original engine ITR. Only works as a track car or beater so I think price will need to come down. Originally I thought it would sell quick due to the red seats.

[teggy604]

There is always the other ITR on CL. 212,000 KM, clean title, no accident, not daily driven for $30,000.

[twitchyzero]

it's been listed for like 9 months

[tegra7]

That one is not claim free either and was daily driven for most of its life.

[EndLeSS8]

There is always the other ITR on CL. 212,000 KM, clean title, no accident, not daily driven for $30,000.

Ok, this thread is the best place to ask my questions, because you all seem reasonable, sound of mind, and are ITR owners.

(I'm not planning to buy an ITR, I just want to learn. These are honest questions, don't be offended. My family and I have owned 4 Civics, I've owned a 1st gen NSX, I'm almost as big of a fan of the ITR as you owners are)


1. $30k for that ITR, I know there is a LOT of nostalgia, rarity, and passion behind the ITR.... but seriously, like.... $30k is a crazy-town price....
Honestly, I paid much less than $30k for my 2008 IS-F, and it has about HALF the mileage of that ITR.
Like... you guys as ITR owners, don't you think $30k for that is pretty crazy?? (It's funny because I read the first page of this thread, and the guy was complaining about an ITR for $18k... lol)

2. How GOOD is the ITR? Is it black and white completely better than the GSR?
I ask because a close friend of mine has owned 4 DC2 Integras, and currently he owns a DC2 GSR and a DC5 RSX Type S. I've been around the DC2 Integra a lot, but I've never sat in, or driven a DC2 ITR.

If the DC2 ITR is >>>>>> DC2 Integra / DC5 RSX Type S, then I can fully understand, because when I went from my IS350 to my IS-F, it literally was a black and white difference of both cars. On paper, the IS-F has "only" better suspension, 110hp+ more, 2 more cylinders from a bigger and better engine. I owned my IS350 for almost 4 years, and before actually sitting in and driving an IS-F, I didn't expect it to be sooo much better than the IS350, but it is. Some things are more than just numbers on paper. Is that the case with the DC2 ITR vs regular DC2 Integra/ DC5 RSX?

[SumAznGuy]

Ok, this thread is the best place to ask my questions, because you all seem reasonable, sound of mind, and are ITR owners.

(I'm not planning to buy an ITR, I just want to learn. These are honest questions, don't be offended. My family and I have owned 4 Civics, I've owned a 1st gen NSX, I'm almost as big of a fan of the ITR as you owners are)


1. $30k for that ITR, I know there is a LOT of nostalgia, rarity, and passion behind the ITR.... but seriously, like.... $30k is a crazy-town price....
Honestly, I paid much less than $30k for my 2008 IS-F, and it has about HALF the mileage of that ITR.
Like... you guys as ITR owners, don't you think $30k for that is pretty crazy?? (It's funny because I read the first page of this thread, and the guy was complaining about an ITR for $18k... lol)

2. How GOOD is the ITR? Is it black and white completely better than the GSR?
I ask because a close friend of mine has owned 4 DC2 Integras, and currently he owns a DC2 GSR and a DC5 RSX Type S. I've been around the DC2 Integra a lot, but I've never sat in, or driven a DC2 ITR.

If the DC2 ITR is >>>>>> DC2 Integra / DC5 RSX Type S, then I can fully understand, because when I went from my IS350 to my IS-F, it literally was a black and white difference of both cars. On paper, the IS-F has "only" better suspension, 110hp+ more, 2 more cylinders from a bigger and better engine. I owned my IS350 for almost 4 years, and before actually sitting in and driving an IS-F, I didn't expect it to be sooo much better than the IS350, but it is. Some things are more than just numbers on paper. Is that the case with the DC2 ITR vs regular DC2 Integra/ DC5 RSX?

My personal feeling, having autox'd and tracked a stock ITR with a tired motor and fresh suspension, no. It isn't that night and day different from say a GSR.

that being said, some of the demand comes from the rarity of the car. To find an all original numbers matching non molested ITR is almost impossible as most have been modded, theft from, or written off.

Kinda like some of the people who are making these "barn" finds in the US.

[320icar]

Most my friends make fun of the ITR because they can’t wrap their heads around how much they cost for ‘just a Honda’. So that is a great question

[tofu1413]

such a raw, honest FWD car, that felt like a turn key, road course ready car straight off the showroom floor.

very high strung and responsive motor. revs to the moon.

its slow by modern standards, but the agility and the nimbleness is something modern cars cant quite seem to match. the visibility factor is the biggest one, the car has such a low dashboard and big glass area compared to current cars.

it is indeed a special car and its a matter of what its worth to you.

people are willing to pay the dollars for nostalgia and that car does bring quite a bit to most of its followers.

I'd personally spend $15k tops on one. with a jspec front end and some minor mods. at $30k to me, it better be an all original car with under 100k kms on it with a floor pan so clean, you can eat off of it.

if you ever get a chance to drive one, drive one. theres a bit of special sauce on the original ITR compared to the GSR.

The car itself is a niche and of course dollar for dollar there are other options out there. No different from 911 guys. people are still willing to pay 50k + for air cooled cars... theyre not as fast or comfortable and would probably be out ran by a Toyota Camry, but the niche is there.

[Prostrho]

IMO, stock GSR vs stock ITR. huge difference in the balance and handling.

Is it worth 30k? Market determines the price. When I bought my ITR its only 50% more money than a GSR. That is well worth the difference at the time.

[tegra7]

8 Years ago 15k for an ITR was absurd, 35k for a Mk4 Supra was absurd, 25k for a FD rx-7 was absurd. Look at the prices of these cars today.. Old jap sports cars are rising in value and will continue to do so for the next couple of decades IMO. Im sure 10 years from now Barrett Jackson auction will be flooded with NSX, Supra, ITR. Some who dreamed about these cars as youngsters now have the money to add to them their collection.

[Rainei]

I liek da sound xD

But on a serious note, the sound makes me happy, and the driving experience makes me happy. And that's all us enthusiasts are after right? In today's day and age, its definitely dog slow, as my mom's RDX can most definitely spank it in a straight line and not cruise at 4000 rpm on the highway, but where's the fun in that!

These are two of my favourite sound clips on youtube, and I go back to listen every once in a while.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK6JE0M0AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N73yhSyfgGM

You can hear the driver chuckle a bit after the first pull in the second clip, and that's honestly my reaction most times the VTEC kicks in yo.

Edit: And oh yea, after an upshift, the engine is still revving higher than my miata at redline, while basically being a shopping cart engine while doing grocery and home depot runs.

[underscore]

Maybe I missed it, but what did they actually change vs the GSR? Were the changes bolt on, or are we talking internal structure changes?

[teggy604]

Maybe I missed it, but what did they actually change vs the GSR? Were the changes bolt on, or are we talking internal structure changes?

Honda did do some chassis reinforcements in different areas, and subframe reinforcements. There is a diagram showing those changes somewhere on the web. Its practically a different car. Everything that can be changed was changed. Anything that was not needed was taken out to save weight to make it a track weapon. They spent so much time on R&D that they loss money on every ITR that was sold. But they did deliver on a car that is truly driver oriented. I think that is the connection ppl have when driving the car. When you drive the car, the car gives you direct feedback, and you decide what to do, not a computer.

[TouringTeg]

SumAznGuy is the reason I have an ITR. He found my first 2001 on a random FB board even though the owner lived literally one block from me.

I paid 14k back in 2016. 01-1233 cdm 162kms, rusty quarters and no service records. Ok one receipt for a new battery from the week before. I sold it for $23,500 in 2019. Head has been rebuilt by Sheepyrace. DDE still owns it.

This week I made a deal on a 1998 CDM 166kms. Cost me 28k this time! For an Integra. Double what it cost me last time. Cleaner car but no 2001 only red seats front and back.

I went from 993 C4S to ITR. I am letting the faster modern and comfortable 1M go back to ITR. Why?

Pure driving bliss. The engagement, the feedback and the noises. It’s a race car for the street. I like to call it a poor mans GT3.

Drive a slow car fast. You can push the ITR to it’s limits and feel when you are reaching the limit and hold it there. Despite being under powered they are a blast at autox and lapping days.

Quirks and features. Numbered badges, red accents, and ITR only parts. Ownership is quite fun as there are so many differences and special features to be discovered. Modifications are readily available.

Low cost of ownership. They are cheap to fuel, insure, maintain, track etc. They are easy to work on because it’s a Bseries Honda. You won’t lose much if you decide to sell.

There are plenty of cars out there for less such as 350Z, BRZ, Miata that will also be fun weekend warriors. Those are all wise choices. The Honda fanboi like me will pay a premium for an ITR. I put my money where my mouth is.

[BIC_BAWS]

Ok guys, I know I'm going to get a biased answer in here. But since that 18K ITR was on the topic for a bit and my car is most likely written off,

Should I buy the 18K ITR (seems to be just as shady) or an 18K E46 M3 (Alberta title, rusty, rebuilt, 144K km, reinforced subframe, vanos and rod bearings are done)

I know car buying is very subjective, so here's what I had done to my now dead E46 330CI. I had done all preventative maintenance even the most minor issues. Suspension was Bilstein B8s + H&R race springs. New control arms, all new suspension bushings with the best OE (MeyleHD). 95a engine mounts and trans mounts (NVH doesn't bother me). Transmission mounted solid shifter.

My 330CI was a very good dual duty car. It was ok for track and ok for dailying. Obviously sacrifices were made but ultimately my car was dialed in for cruising back roads while still looking good for cars and coffee. I'm looking for something I can do the same with, a car that can perform at the track while still being able to show up to business meetings with LOL.

Might end up starting a new thread, but I guess I want the opinions of the ITR experts.

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

[320icar]

You can buy a clean rust free bc m3 for under 20k.

[VR6GTI]

I wouldn’t pay more than 14k for that ITR

[Prostrho]

Ok guys, I know I'm going to get a biased answer in here. But since that 18K ITR was on the topic for a bit and my car is most likely written off,

Should I buy the 18K ITR (seems to be just as shady) or an 18K E46 M3 (Alberta title, rusty, rebuilt, 144K km, reinforced subframe, vanos and rod bearings are done)

I know car buying is very subjective, so here's what I had done to my now dead E46 330CI. I had done all preventative maintenance even the most minor issues. Suspension was Bilstein B8s + H&R race springs. New control arms, all new suspension bushings with the best OE (MeyleHD). 95a engine mounts and trans mounts (NVH doesn't bother me). Transmission mounted solid shifter.

My 330CI was a very good dual duty car. It was ok for track and ok for dailying. Obviously sacrifices were made but ultimately my car was dialed in for cruising back roads while still looking good for cars and coffee. I'm looking for something I can do the same with, a car that can perform at the track while still being able to show up to business meetings with LOL.

Might end up starting a new thread, but I guess I want the opinions of the ITR experts.

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I owned both a E46 m3 and a ITR at same time. I still have my ITR and sold the E46.

IMO they are very different car. Is it your "1 car solution?" Eg is this going to be your DD and weekend and Road trip car?

ITR can do daily duties without issues but i didnt enjoy driving it as a DD. Too much NVH and 3500rpm on the highway is tiring. The ITR comes alive on track and thats where it shines.

The E46 is a much more balanced all arounder that does everything quite well (except reliability maybe?)

[320icar]

My old DA9 and miata were like that. Super fun around town but the second I had to highway it was earplug time. Just brutal

[TouringTeg]

Most owners don’t daily their ITR but there are still a few in Vancouver like the 396km one. They are garage kept weekend toys.

I think it’s worth 15k since you can part the red seats for $3500 and get a set of Recaro seats and JDM rear for $1200 or so. It’s hard to get excited about it as a keeper. I was close to making a move on it and turn it into a track car.

That 30k JDM front CDM ITR is just too much and they are not flexible. 9 months or so at $30k. It loses some collectibility although JDM front looks better and it has quality upgrades. A lot of people looking don’t want the price to start with a 3 otherwise they will get an FK8 CTR instead. I couldn’t bring myself to spend $30k on an ITR.

[twitchyzero]

missed the boat on the ITR because didn't have garage at the time
15k okay but over 20k it's hard to justify

looked into importing one but even most of that has dried up (just think of every momo or recaro you find meant one died) so went with something slightly more modern, much more bespoke and comparably stiff/raw: the 2L S2000 despite hating ragtops so hardtop eventually coming haha

but i'd be miserable dailying it though because it begs you to keep it over 5k

[OEMSiR]

importing a rhd jdm itr under 200kms still goes for $20,000 plus cad! low mileage db8 itr or dc2 itr reach up to 28k shipped,

might as well get jdm dc2 type RX instead and pay more

[teggy604]

Ok guys, I know I'm going to get a biased answer in here. But since that 18K ITR was on the topic for a bit and my car is most likely written off,

Should I buy the 18K ITR (seems to be just as shady) or an 18K E46 M3 (Alberta title, rusty, rebuilt, 144K km, reinforced subframe, vanos and rod bearings are done)

I know car buying is very subjective, so here's what I had done to my now dead E46 330CI. I had done all preventative maintenance even the most minor issues. Suspension was Bilstein B8s + H&R race springs. New control arms, all new suspension bushings with the best OE (MeyleHD). 95a engine mounts and trans mounts (NVH doesn't bother me). Transmission mounted solid shifter.

My 330CI was a very good dual duty car. It was ok for track and ok for dailying. Obviously sacrifices were made but ultimately my car was dialed in for cruising back roads while still looking good for cars and coffee. I'm looking for something I can do the same with, a car that can perform at the track while still being able to show up to business meetings with LOL.

Might end up starting a new thread, but I guess I want the opinions of the ITR experts.

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E46 are great cars, but once it shoots the poop its pretty much done.
With the ITR you wont really miss a beat. You don't have to be worried about breaking something on a Honda at a track day. Parts are everywhere. Engine swaps are dime a dozen. You can stick with any B series or if you got cash to burn and feel adventurous move into the K series engines.

[Simplex123]

E46 are great cars, but once it shoots the poop its pretty much done.
With the ITR you wont really miss a beat. You don't have to be worried about breaking something on a Honda at a track day. Parts are everywhere. Engine swaps are dime a dozen. You can stick with any B series or if you got cash to burn and feel adventurous move into the K series engines.

Completely agree with that. And ITR really is perfect for the track where it feels most at home. With the needs he listed though, I don't feel it's the perfect car for him though.

Ok guys, I know I'm going to get a biased answer in here. But since that 18K ITR was on the topic for a bit and my car is most likely written off,

My 330CI was a very good dual duty car. It was ok for track and ok for dailying. Obviously sacrifices were made but ultimately my car was dialed in for cruising back roads while still looking good for cars and coffee. I'm looking for something I can do the same with, a car that can perform at the track while still being able to show up to business meetings with LOL.

For the M3, a very basic reinforcement with plates welded is definitely going to crack (again) - especially if you are planning on tracking the car. 90% of the time you won't be able to see the cracks until you drop the whole rear. If you were to go with the M3 route, you'll definitely need to pony up more $$ to catch up on all of the past due work. 25k examples will get you one in good physical condition and maybe 6spd - but the maintenance department will still be lacking. I don't think I've seen a properly sorted out E46 M3 for sale locally - they all need a lot of love to get it to the point where you are comfortable tracking it.

If you had a DD and this is your second car, I would tell you to get an ITR right away - but if you want a single car to both go to the track AND look professional, I'm not sure the ITR would be the one. Non-car people will not look at the ITR and think anything of it like enthusiasts. It comes down to how much you care about how your car may portray yourself to your client.

If you wanted to stay with BMW I would recommend an E82 or E90 330i. Of course, you win some and lose some. With this route you lose the raw feeling of the ITR chassis but still would be a good compromise at the track. Those two have come down so much in price that you can get it for way less than 18k You can then use the rest of the money to mod and prep for the track. On top of that, they will still look professional enough to meet clients in.

p.s. you probably should start a new thread lol

[twitchyzero]

importing a rhd jdm itr under 200kms still goes for $20,000 plus cad! low mileage db8 itr or dc2 itr reach up to 28k shipped,

might as well get jdm dc2 type RX instead and pay more

96 spec with that mileage were like 8-12k landed/oop inspected + plated

ITRx rice like oem aluminum pedals should've been standard like the S2000
but i dont need tint or a 6-disc deck haha

the thing with import is you better make sure it's long term, because you'll get pennies on the dollar for resale...buyers dont seem to care it's 100-120 lbs lighter with better gearing etc. if they have to shift with left hand and signal with the right

[tofu1413]

Maybe I missed it, but what did they actually change vs the GSR? Were the changes bolt on, or are we talking internal structure changes?

a fine tuned, factory effort

just to name a few -

extra welds
thicker quarter panels
extra bracing
stiffer rubber on bushings, engine mounts
lighter internals, higher compression, hand ported engine heads, hand torqued bottom end
short runner intake manifold, instead of two stage on the GSR
unique header
lighter glass on j spec models
less sound deadening
bigger brakes compared to GSR, bigger bolt pattern
more aggressive cam profiles
shorter gearing, factory LSD
super thick anti roll bars from factory
aero that generates downforce
lightweight ac on ac equipped cars

off the top of my head, the J spec cars were even corner balanced to a certain extent from the factory

its wild, honda spent so much time fine tuning little things on the car.

such an interesting car. closest thing nowadays are GT3's and maybe the subaru BRZ Ts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mynvDGUjJw

[TouringTeg]

Regarding JDM imports, I bid on 4 over the last 3 months through Bpro.

You want 98 for 5 lug and bigger brakes. Every half decent one was at least $20k CAD landed. Even 96 is not cheap anymore because Americans are buying them up since they are close to 25 years old. They all had some kind of deal breaker for me like a cage or noticeable accident damage in the engine bay. As well you are always taking a big risk since you buy based on crappy pictures.

In the end I didn’t want want to pay $20k and have RHD. The days of the cheap ITR are over.

[twitchyzero]

yep 95 are already eligible for USA and exporters have been storing 96
when it was cheap was worth considering...ship has sailed and wondering if Ro/Ro costs will skyrocket post-COVID now that barely any vessels leaving the yokohama port

literally just floating because port is so backed up
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/auto-inventory-glut-sends-shockwaves-132301726.html

[underscore]

a fine tuned, factory effort

just to name a few -

extra welds
thicker quarter panels
extra bracing
stiffer rubber on bushings, engine mounts
lighter internals, higher compression, hand ported engine heads, hand torqued bottom end
short runner intake manifold, instead of two stage on the GSR
unique header
lighter glass on j spec models
less sound deadening
bigger brakes compared to GSR, bigger bolt pattern
more aggressive cam profiles
shorter gearing, factory LSD
super thick anti roll bars from factory
aero that generates downforce
lightweight ac on ac equipped cars

off the top of my head, the J spec cars were even corner balanced to a certain extent from the factory

its wild, honda spent so much time fine tuning little things on the car.

such an interesting car. closest thing nowadays are GT3's and maybe the subaru BRZ Ts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mynvDGUjJw

Sounds similar to what was done to a lot of the homologation editions of cars used in the WRC. Was it in a racing series that required an edition like that or was Honda doing it as a technical exercise?

[tofu1413]

Sounds similar to what was done to a lot of the homologation editions of cars used in the WRC. Was it in a racing series that required an edition like that or was Honda doing it as a technical exercise?

more like technical exercise.

the cars did very well on the Japanese "N1" races, the races were cars were basically stock + bolt on cage and sorts.

I think the most dominant form of the DC2 R was when it competed in the Speedvision touring series. they dominated from 97-02'

The realtime racing Acura integra type R's were dominant and apparently were modified minimally - they were using bone stock gear boxes!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VX7FpUGS1U

http://autopedia.com/Acura/97.IntRexhaust.gif

http://www.integratyper.org/specs/images/usdm_dc2/usdm_dc2_chassis.gif

http://www.integratyper.org/specs/images/usdm_dc2/usdm_dc2_engine.gif

http://www.integratyper.org/specs/images/usdm_dc2/usdm_dc2_vtec.gif

http://www.integratyper.org/specs/images/usdm_dc2/usdm_dc2_dyno.gif

http://www.integratyper.org/specs/images/jdm_dc2_96/jdm_96r_dyno.jpg

[68style]

Saw a brand new Civic Type-R with a Fantuan decal on the door yesterday hahaha... props... modern day Tofu delivery

[twitchyzero]

more or less for the nsx type r tech to trickle down for the common man
loss leader to build an image/a following and it worked pretty well 140 page thread 25 years later with buyers shelling out msrp or more

realtime and mugen is the reason i'm going with redline 10w30 for the next oil change huehue

[tofu1413]

Saw a brand new Civic Type-R with a Fantuan decal on the door yesterday hahaha... props... modern day Tofu delivery

https://scontent.fyvr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/96511954_10157555323881559_1134988104885600256_n.j pg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=0be424&_nc_ohc=Ia-icFeSaFEAX_oeRBi&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr4-1.fna&oh=83425d1a81cbf2a754e344a4123529b7&oe=5EDF15A3

Did deliveries in the Impreza for mothers day :lawl:

[TouringTeg]

Fk8 CTR is a real competitor and offers a solid alternative and more performance.

Let’s see what a previously modified and storied Py ITR brings. At about $28k CAD so far.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-acura-integra-type-r-32/

[tofu1413]

rarely see a phoenix yellow on the streets nowadays

everything has been Champ White.

[TouringTeg]

Remember no one wanted that salvage title Py a few years ago. JDM front I think.

A few clean Py are tucked away in Van that rarely see the light of day. A friend has a track rat here and used to post. Still in the garage but hasn’t been driven in 6 yrs or so. Former RS member Amuro Ray

[teggy604]

While Real Time racing was dominating on the circuits, car enthusiast was dominating Auto X. If I remember correctly ITR was in D Stock, and it was always fun racing with the Miatas.

[tofu1413]

times have changed.

when i was selling my PY 8 years ago... no one wanted the yellow.


now they rarely show up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikUjdu8Zq9I

one more video post!

[BIC_BAWS]

Fk8 CTR is a real competitor and offers a solid alternative and more performance.

I asked KChan about the FK8. Apparently with just wheels and tires, it can do a 1:56 at Ridge. Pretty damn impressive.

[TouringTeg]

Does kchan have an fk8 now? I remember the lotus and NSX. Maybe he will see this.

[320icar]

Yeah he’s in a CTR now. Not sure if he kept the other cars. @bicbaws I’d like to know a normal good drivers time at the ridge in a CTR. Not sure if it’s fair to use Kalson as the yardstick lol.

Those things are pretty great though. I tried so hard to get my wife into one instead of the family vehicle we ended up with.

[EndLeSS8]

Thanks for everyone for answering my questions. Greatly appreciate it a lot.

I can easily say that ALL of the sports cars/ sport sedans from the 90s-current, are all beyond my full driving capability (As in, I know for sure I can't even drive them to even 60% of their full chassis handling capability)

Because of this, as I get older, I appreciate torque/hp a lot more. Razor sharp handling is awesome to me, but I don't have the opportunity to safely push myself to improve (I don't track my cars) so even though I like the twisties, I err on the side of safety/caution and I don't push my cars to anywhere near the limit on curves.

So I can understand that the ITR is awesome, but I can 200% fully accept I can't come to a driving level to appreciate it's handling capabilities.

[twitchyzero]

go try a nd2 miata

few hundred lbs lighter than the ITR and RWD so fun even at legal speeds and feels right at home in curvy back roads

adequate torque to putt around town and 6000-7500rpm will remind you of high-strung Honda motors

few days ago it was mentioned in the c/d best new powerplants

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15379322/best-car-engines/?slide=14

[dark0821]

^ the ND2 miata is in another price category...

granted it is new VS used (like 20 yr old used)

if you have ND2 money, might as well just get S2K...

plus.. the linear power band for the nd2 maybe a "plus" for daily... but it is nth compared to "VTEC just kick in yo!", to hear the engine changes tone and rev up...

lastly... that 7200rpm - 9000rpm shifts... fuck my NA redlines at 7000 lol... but I guess the ND2 revs to 7500....

[twitchyzero]

that was my point because his comment is about enjoying a vehicle far below the limit so felt high-performance products are more appropriate for his usage

so i suggested to also try something with a ridiculous compression like 13:1/14:1 for torque that allows you to stay NA and the nd2 happens to also rev half decently

think he said he had an na1 and now a lexus v8 so i dont think a mazda is out of budget

if you're mostly after rigidity, loftiest of rev with a dramatic crossover, and a benchmark shifter feel then i agree with you

[underscore]

Because of this, as I get older, I appreciate torque/hp a lot more. Razor sharp handling is awesome to me, but I don't have the opportunity to safely push myself to improve (I don't track my cars) so even though I like the twisties, I err on the side of safety/caution and I don't push my cars to anywhere near the limit on curves.

Where can you push the power of a car in a straight line though? Even the relatively meager power levels of my vehicles can get me into impound territory pretty quickly.

[AstulzerRZD]

go try a nd2 miata

few hundred lbs lighter than the ITR and RWD so fun even at legal speeds and feels right at home in curvy back roads

adequate torque to putt around town and 6000-7500rpm will remind you of high-strung Honda motors
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/g15379322/best-car-engines/?slide=14

if you're mostly after rigidity, loftiest of rev with a dramatic crossover, and a benchmark shifter feel then i agree with you

A few S2000 owners that I know who've driven the ND2 consider it to be the better all-around car, but would own an S2k anyways for the engine and shifter. If I had to pick one car to keep, it'd be the S2k.

That said, the ND2 is quite a bit lighter (2300 vs 2800lbs) and while the shifter is maybe 10% worse, I feel like the steering is much better. Day to day, it also seems quieter and has better seats.

With the way S2k prices are... I might just go for an ND2 first as a learner/first short wheelbase RWD car while I save up some more for an S2k.

[Iron Chef]

The ITR is not worth what people are paying for them these days if your comparing it’s performance stats.

What price do you put on the feels it gives you when your driving it hard? Different for each person.

There’s no doubt there’s a lot of hype around it. I thought it was a good 30k car in 2001. I don’t think it’s a good car for 30k in 2020.

[TouringTeg]

Well said. I am paying for the feels and low cost ownership.

I felt strange when my $36k 97 Porsche 911 C4S went to up to $72k. I thought wtf this car is not worth that much. I sold it and took the money. Now it’s closer to $85k CAD and well into 6 figures for clean ones.

Collector pricing is different ball game.

[320icar]

It’s all about the highschool nostalgia. The car you wished you could have owned.

Although my RS is worthless now I hope in 20 years it will also be one of those cars

[teggy604]

It would be a interesting battle between the ITR dinosaur vs 30 K new cars like the BRZ , FRS, Focus ST, Miata.

[TouringTeg]

At autox I battle my friends stock BRZ, Focus St, Fiesta ST. It’s a blast and pretty even.

[twitchyzero]

A few S2000 owners that I know who've driven the ND2 consider it to be the better all-around car, but would own an S2k anyways for the engine and shifter. If I had to pick one car to keep, it'd be the S2k.

That said, the ND2 is quite a bit lighter (2300 vs 2800lbs) and while the shifter is maybe 10% worse, I feel like the steering is much better. Day to day, it also seems quieter and has better seats.

With the way S2k prices are... I might just go for an ND2 first as a learner/first short wheelbase RWD car while I save up some more for an S2k.

dont have enough seat time yet in my ap1 but i do believe the f20c and its shifter is honda at the top of its game after a storied f1 run with mclaren and building several Type Rs. i only have it because fanboy but honestly there wont be anything like it again and it's pretty hardcore short of requiring porsche GT income bracket or lotus/ariel/radical levels of insanity

however, there's something to be said about building a bespoke rwd 2-seater in-house that meets current emission & crash standards AND still be lighter than the carbon & manual steering 4C-- climb under one to find a work of art and wonder how they did it for only 25k USD

it's a tough choice: i think these waning passion projects need support to show they're still a demand for just pure whimisical fun that can be enjoyed without helmet and unlike the s2000 that had only one generation run..because if there's even a future model it'll probably be hybrid/electric, but at the same time securing a s2000 before prices really run away isn't a bad idea either

[teggy604]

At autox I battle my friends stock BRZ, Focus St, Fiesta ST. It’s a blast and pretty even.

I find that pretty amazing when it can still compete with newer cars. Shows how far ahead the ITR was back in the day. Only video I found was on YouTube by autoguide comparing a 98ITR to a 2013 Civic Si hatch on the track. Just replaced those 20-25 yr old suspension bushings with some new oem ones (if they still make) and check your springs and shock and you are good to go.

[Iron Chef]

They hype comes from pedigree. I take the miata for example, fun to drive, well balanced, great experience, but it will never be special like an ITR because it all come down to pedigree.

They always referred to the 90’s as the golden era for Honda. They were on top of the game in that time. The ITR represents the pinnacle of that era for fwd sport compact segment. It was a factory homologation special. When it started racing it DOMINATED the touring car series it competed in from 97-01 except for 1999 because it wasn’t sold in that year. The closest competition were rwd platform E36 BMW’s which was pretty amazing for the time .

Even for today’s standards it still punches above it weight class based on the fact that you can extract 90% of the performance 90% of the time and you can do it none stop for 20min sessions at a time with the operating cost of a civic.

It’s all about the je ne sais quoi

[tofu1413]

bone stock car does well on lap days

lots of guys doing lapping on crazy hot days with their stock cooling ITRs...

and the tires / brakes give out long before the car gives out. its really amazing! newer modern stuff require cool down laps after a few hot laps... ITR just keeps going and going until the driver gets too tired!

[EmSir]

Not sure this is the right place to ask but i find it the most fitting place to ask from an ITR owner to another. Looking for some 15inch rims for my 2000 ITR. Anyone here got a set laying around and wanting to sell?

[tegra7]

Not sure this is the right place to ask but i find it the most fitting place to ask from an ITR owner to another. Looking for some 15inch rims for my 2000 ITR. Anyone here got a set laying around and wanting to sell?

Are you in the whatsapp group chat?


01 ITR K swapped. Rupert?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch/cto/d/richmond-fs-ft-2001-integra-type-k/7124082787.html

[EmSir]

Are you in the whatsapp group chat?


01 ITR K swapped. Rupert?

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rch/cto/d/richmond-fs-ft-2001-integra-type-k/7124082787.html

Appreciate your reply.

I am not aware of the whatsapp group chat. what is it and how can i get get on this?

thanks

[tegra7]

Appreciate your reply.

I am not aware of the whatsapp group chat. what is it and how can i get get on this?

thanks

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