[Expresso]

So instead we dressed 7 D lol!

[spoon.ek9]

Chatfield was basically stapled to the bench lol.

[BlackV62K2]

Calling 2 goals by Toffoli

[keifun]

If we get blown by MTL, well at least I got to enjoy my $2 Spicy Habanero McChicken today.

[SkinnyPupp]

GG

[spoon.ek9]

great pass by rooster :thumbsup:

[spoon.ek9]

HOAGIE!

[SkinnyPupp]

Canucks are flying! Hoagie with the tip!

Do we call the Horvat/Hoglander line the HoHo line?

WutFace

[spoon.ek9]

well it's bo, boeser, horvat, hoglander. so it could also be bobohoho haha. or just bohoho.

[spoon.ek9]

vesey seems to be skating well, creating chances. looks good so far.

[SkinnyPupp]

vesey seems to be skating well, creating chances. looks good so far.
I was thinking the same thing. Standing out already

[SkinnyPupp]

Bench Motte for that icing lol

[SkinnyPupp]

Imagine high sticking Tyler Myers of all people, and getting away with it

[SkinnyPupp]

Bench Motte for that delay of game

[SkinnyPupp]

WHAT A GOAL BY MILLER!

Habs tried to rag the puck until Hughes left, didn't work LUL

Thank god for Demko, allowing them to win games while only scoring 2 regulation goals a game

[bobbinka]

Wow

[68style]

Refs worked hard to get Montreal that point / gift them the win

[spoon.ek9]

hot damn, that was a great goal

side note: not sure how my feed is like 11 mins behind today...

[mb_]

That Millsy goal was amazing, thought they were gonna lose for sure after Suzuki tied it and MTL got a breakway right before JT Miller scored

[SkinnyPupp]

That Millsy goal was amazing, thought they were gonna lose for sure after Suzuki tied it and MTL got a breakway right before JT Miller scored
Especially when the breakaway was due to a missed interference penalty FailFish

Canucks are killing it in OT and shootouts this season that's for sure

[AzNightmare]

Miller is OT clutch.

[spoon.ek9]

Tyler Minors

[Acura604]

Ok here we go....

Holtby in goal.

First RS member to quote this message is eligible for lunch If the Canucks win today.

*lunch options to be determined by me. Only 1 eligible RS member will qualify.

[68style]

Ok here we go....

Holtby in goal.

First RS member to quote this message is eligible for lunch If the Canucks win today.

*lunch options to be determined by me. Only 1 eligible RS member will qualify.

SeemsGood

[SkinnyPupp]

Daylight savings time causing the Eastern games to start at 7am for me, missed the first period

PBP guy sounds like a salesman.. Hate that

[spoon.ek9]

thank you prince charming

[SkinnyPupp]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROCK BOESER POGGERS

[SkinnyPupp]

Miller is great in OT, but when he's in the Canucks zone :heckno:

[spoon.ek9]

holy shit lol. wow!

[SkinnyPupp]

POGGERS POGGERS POGGERS POGGERS

GREAT SHOTTE MOTTE

[pastarocket]

Holy smokes! Two goals early in the third period!

Those deflections on shots from the point.

Two goals in 33 seconds. :lawl:


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[SkinnyPupp]

Holy smokes! Two goals early in the third period!

Those deflections on shots from the point.

Two goals in 33 seconds. :lawl:


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Unfortunately those few seconds are the only where the Canucks have had any pressure... Going to need a couple more miracles to win this one

[SkinnyPupp]

4 shots total in the 3rd period FeelsBadMan

2 of them went in FeelsGoodMan

[SkinnyPupp]

Canucks getting 1 point out of this game is highway robbery. This was like watching an NHL team vs an ECHL team LUL

If they win... That's just EleGiggle

[pastarocket]

Another OT to decide the winner.

What a barn burner of a game tonight!


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[AzNightmare]

Bah, mini series finish with each team getting 3 pts each.
2 games burned off the schedule and no ground gained.

[spoon.ek9]

well, they did manage to earn 7 out of 8 possible points on this road trip. can't say they accomplished nothing. the resilience they showed while missing key players was definitely more than what i would have expeced considering how the season had gone prior to this week.

[punkwax]

They gained confidence which should translate into more points down the road.

[whitev70r]

Ok here we go....
Holtby in goal.

First RS member to quote this message is eligible for lunch If the Canucks win today.

*lunch options to be determined by me. Only 1 eligible RS member will qualify.

SeemsGood

Damn ... I snooze, I lose!

[Acura604]

Damn ... I snooze, I lose!

LOL all good... no one won anyways hahah.

... although a good game, i was getting a bit nervous that i'd have to shell out steak for 68style.

... watch for next time, whenever that may be as its completely random - this game coulda gone either way so was definitely a risky bet for me.

[whitev70r]

^ why no winner, didn't Canucks win in OT

[Hondaracer]

Although some of the goals werent reallt Holtbys fault, i feel like with him as backup he's now one of those goalies basically you're just hoping for a miracle to pull out a win.

Frankly, expected a lot more out of him but i guess we're just getting the same goalie everyone saw in Washington

[Acura604]

^ why no winner, didn't Canucks win in OT

OT not considered a win. A win = 2pts

[punkwax]

Canucks lost last night...

[AzNightmare]

Although some of the goals werent reallt Holtbys fault, i feel like with him as backup he's now one of those goalies basically you're just hoping for a miracle to pull out a win.

Frankly, expected a lot more out of him but i guess we're just getting the same goalie everyone saw in Washington

lol, just glad he didn't let in the kind of goals he did when he played against Winnipeg. There were a lot of traffic in front on all 4 goals. Although the 2nd one, he was trying to look around a screen and ended up putting himself way out of position.

I noticed he plays a lot more aggressively and it makes me nervous. It looks a lot less systematic and he sometimes puts himself out of position for rebounds playing like that.

[pastarocket]

Canucks claim another former Toronto player off waivers. Centre Travis Boyd.

What is with Dim Jim helping T.O. clear cap space so that they can sign a D-man by the trade deadline??

First, Jim Vesey. Next, Travis Boyd. Vancouver Maple Leafs. :lawl:

[murd0c]

Canucks claim another former Toronto player off waivers. Centre Travis Boyd.

What is with Dim Jim helping T.O. clear cap space so that they can sign a D-man by the trade deadline??

First, Jim Vesey. Next, Travis Boyd. Vancouver Maple Leafs. :lawl:

It's a good pick up, hopefully that means the Canucks are going to be trading Sutter now.

[CRS]

I'd rather be claiming guys off waivers than trading assets for them.

Or worse yet, overpaying for bottom 6 guys on UFA day.

[SumAznGuy]

I'd rather be claiming guys off waivers than trading assets for them.

Or worse yet, overpaying for bottom 6 guys on UFA day.

Agreed. Who knows. Maybe JB can trade someone and get draft picks.

[whitev70r]

Or worst yet, offer free agents $6m x 6 with no movement clause.

[Infiniti]

thank you prince charming

This prince charming shit is super cringey..

[spoon.ek9]

haha it's just a reference to the character, dude.

[SkinnyPupp]

DansGame

[spoon.ek9]

sigh. this is about as well as they could do with 3 (and now possibly 4) centers missing.

[pastarocket]

No Luck Canucks. FeelsBadMan

No Bo, No Petey, No Sutter, and no Pearson.

[68style]

All this chatter that the Canucks aren’t selling better not be true, that reeks of ownership meddling... even before last night they estimated we had to win like 16/20 games to make playoffs??

Get real haha... only an idiot would go all in with those kid of odds against them.

Athletic is saying Benning wants to extend Pearson, why am I not fucking surprised...

[murd0c]

of course he wants to extend Person but it's not like he has money to extend him.

[68style]

He’s not worth it, bare minimum $3 mill a season and he will be moved to the bottom 6 next season... another Roussel / Beagle / Sutter

[roastpuff]

That was a sad crank of the siren lol. She looked like she doesn't want to be there.

[SkinnyPupp]

I only really pay attention to the Canucks and North division... Is Demko the hottest goalie in the league rn?

[68style]

Looks or play? Why not both

[SkinnyPupp]

Looks is a given FeelsGoodMan

[SkinnyPupp]

you knowZacyou knowMacyou knowEwanyou know is a you know great you know interyou knowview. you know

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[68style]

Another one of those games you just get the feeling we couldn’t score if we had 6 periods

[EmperorIS]

Lol canucks so good.

Trade Luongo.

[whitev70r]

On another topic, anyone following this? Anyone who follows hockey knows this is no big deal ...punishment is way too harsh! Guy has reffed over 1000 games!

Referee banned from working NHL games after being caught on live mic wanting to call penalty on Predators.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/referee-caught-on-open-mic-wanting-to-call-penalty-on-preds-1.5961611

[EvoFire]

It's a known problem already in the NHL, I think this is the NHL trying to not address the root.

[whitev70r]

I don't actually think it's a problem per se, in situations where a ref called a penalty on a dive by the opposing player, only to realize it after lifting his arm ... if you asked me, he should look for that equalizing penalty the other way. Code.

It's only a problem when a ref goes looking for a penalty because of personal reasons, is betting on the outcome himself, or trying to 'tilt' the game for any particular reason.

[punkwax]

Bettman saving face. Dude was retiring soon anyway.

[Expresso]

That and he got cut off pretty early so we don't know the context could be innocent or malicious.

[Obsideon]

I thought make-up calls was pretty much common knowledge, you often even hear the announcers call it out. Ah well, he retires a few months early. The league pretending to lay down the hammer but it was just a bop toy.

[murd0c]

So the best news of the day is Halford and brough are back hosting the 650 morning show starting Monday, rintoul and surman doing the next show and Andrew Walker got fired.

I'm so happy right now

[Expresso]

So the best news of the day is Halford and brough are back hosting the 650 morning show starting Monday, rintoul and surman doing the next show and Andrew Walker got fired.

I'm so happy right now

lol yea glad Walker is gone.

James Cybulski and Perry Solkowski are also out.
https://www.thechronicleherald.ca/sports/hockey/halford-and-brough-take-their-sports-radio-show-to-sportsnet-650-568449/

[highfive]

how is rintoul still here? i think alexa would have more of a personality.

[Bouncing Bettys]

I called it! I had wondered why SN didn't scoop up the entire 1040 line up since they seemed superior in every way. I have a soft spot for Rintoul though, as we attended the same high school in Kamloops. Don't like seeing people fired, but Walker was my least favourite 650 personality. My first taste of him, he hated on UFC for no real reason other than the violence, so I couldn't get into his shows. Decent enough radio voice, just too off putting with his contrarian views.

[punkwax]

Ya I’m not sure what the Rintoul hate is about either but I only know him from his 1040 days with B-Mac..

[spoon.ek9]

i equate his shows to watching the weather channel. is the information correct? yes. is it entertaining? no. he's just boring to listen to. i guess some people like him.

halford and brough are another level. entertaining, funny and informative. their shows were a joy to listen to even if they weren't talking about hockey.

[68style]

Rintoul comes off as a bit of a dick in real life, but I think it’s just because he’s very straight to the point and no nonsense.

[highfive]

Rintoul is boring as fuck. Honestly put him at the later hours. Perfect way to fall asleep.

[SkinnyPupp]

6 days without a game... is this like a bye week or something?

[68style]

Who knows the mysteries of the NHL's scheduling... so many back to backs and then 6 days off... bizarre

[Kilinim]

I hope the boys are using this week off to get their asses in gear. Need a W vs the Lames.

[eclipseman]

6 days without a game... is this like a bye week or something?

It was a week to be used for missed games due to COVID protocol. I believe all teams had/have a scheduled week off.

[SkinnyPupp]

It was a week to be used for missed games due to COVID protocol. I believe all teams had/have a scheduled week off.
Kind of weird to have it in the middle of the season.. what if they get an outbreak now?

[68style]

I hope the boys are using this week off to get their asses in gear. Need a W vs the Lames.



18 games left and we need 33 points (projected) to make the playoffs (3rd and 4th are projected to have 67 points but we have losing records against both teams so we'd need 68 to bump them out and we're currently at 35)... so, basically if we lose 2 games in the next 18 we're out. It's over.

If management is approaching the trade deadline with any other expectation, they're delusional...

[Kilinim]

18 games left and we need 33 points (projected) to make the playoffs (3rd and 4th are projected to have 67 points but we have losing records against both teams so we'd need 68 to bump them out and we're currently at 35)... so, basically if we lose 2 games in the next 18 we're out. It's over.

If management is approaching the trade deadline with any other expectation, they're delusional...

Unlikely we make it in, I know. I just hope they don't have a loser's mentality and pack it in. Play for the pride, at least. Be hard to play against.

[Infiniti]

18 games left and we need 33 points (projected) to make the playoffs (3rd and 4th are projected to have 67 points but we have losing records against both teams so we'd need 68 to bump them out and we're currently at 35)... so, basically if we lose 2 games in the next 18 we're out. It's over.

If management is approaching the trade deadline with any other expectation, they're delusional...

Amen! Lets call this season and team for what it is and start selling.

[BlackV62K2]

Play for that draft pick! But its the Canucks, they'll win enough to not make the playoffs and then end up in middle of the pack for the 1st round draft.

[invader]

Anyone know if the halford and brough podcast is online besides the SN website? Can't find it on my podcasting app

[murd0c]

Anyone know if the halford and brough podcast is online besides the SN website? Can't find it on my podcasting app

it's not online yet but will be online soon. I heard them say that this morning.

[murd0c]

So Gaudette left the ice with a positive covid test, it's been confirmed he was hanging with Boeser yesterday as well. If it's not a false positive I could see tomorrows game getting postponed.

[Bouncing Bettys]

https://twitter.com/cheapbrunch/status/1376955513859006465

[pastarocket]

So Gaudette left the ice with a positive covid test, it's been confirmed he was hanging with Boeser yesterday as well. If it's not a false positive I could see tomorrows game getting postponed.


Hmmm. Our team played the Habs a day before Montreal went into Covid protocol. That game was about 10 days ago.
March 20th.

Perhaps Covid was spread from that team to the Canucks. The numbers add up.

[SumAznGuy]

Hmmm. Our team played the Habs a day before Montreal went into Covid protocol. That game was about 10 days ago.
March 20th.

Perhaps Covid was spread from that team to the Canucks. The numbers add up.

Except they would have done daily covid tests during those 10 days and they were all negative.

[pastarocket]

Except they would have done daily covid tests during those 10 days and they were all negative.

Covid can take up to 14 days to incubate inside someone who was exposed to another person who has it.

Maybe Hockey Gaud got it from another source. Anyways, the team is looking at another week off from games.

Spring break. LUL

[pastarocket]

wrong post.

[highfive]

Play for that draft pick! But its the Canucks, they'll win enough to not make the playoffs and then end up in middle of the pack for the 1st round draft.

the lottery is different this year. I think only up to 11th place team can win the first overall pick.

[Teriyaki]

No games means no McDonalds lately :okay:

[whitev70r]

^ means you've been healthier lately.

[SumAznGuy]

McJesus fined $5000 for that elbow last night.

Talk about consistency from the league. The ref's called it a roughing penalty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-C1BrrYcLo

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/risingaction/status/1377306823246508032

[SumAznGuy]

https://www.nhl.com/news/canucks-sign-thatcher-demko/c-280397008

Demko 5 years $25M

[68style]

^ Link is wrong...

But... that’s an overpayment IMO during flat cap era and at this point in his career in both $$$ and term, should have been a bridge deal... his direct comparable was Tristan Jarry at 3 years/$10.5 (even though he’s obviously better than Jarry).... Jim y u so dim

[sonick]

Oh.... that’s an overpayment

Nope. General consensus is that this is a solid deal.

https://twitter.com/patersonjeff/status/1377351051112669184

https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1377352077580460036

https://twitter.com/SatiarShah/status/1377350987564781570

https://twitter.com/irfgaffar/status/1377352258493448199

[RiceIntegraRS]

i like this deal alot. It would of been a steal if it was 4.5M. But im pretty happy about this

[pastarocket]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/canucks-sign-goalie-thatcher-demko-five-year-25m-extension/

I am okay with this extension for Demko. He is our no. 1 goalie now and well into the future.

This contract that Benning gave to Demko is better than the multiple contracts with No trade clauses given to bottom six forwards and a journeyman defenceman.

Dim Jim handcuffs the team's flexibility in cap management.

I cannot believe Benning gave a no trade clause to the injured Ferland for his four contract. :facepalm:

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/canucks-hockey/the-canucks-have-more-no-movement-and-no-trade-clauses-than-any-other-nhl-team-3585448

Dim Jim gives no trade clauses to the contracts for Sutter, Antoine Roussel, Ferland, Jay Beagle, Eriksson, Jordie Benn. etc. :considered:

You would think that a GM would give out NTCs to a team's best players instead of the bottom 6 forwards and depth defenceman.

[68style]

Nope. General consensus is that this is a solid deal.

https://twitter.com/patersonjeff/status/1377351051112669184

https://twitter.com/j_mcelroy/status/1377352077580460036

https://twitter.com/SatiarShah/status/1377350987564781570

https://twitter.com/irfgaffar/status/1377352258493448199

First one is iffy... maybe people are putting too much weight on his recent play? His experience doesn’t back up this deal. Also puts us in a bad spot with Holtby for next season... $10 mill for 2 goalies is not where you want to be.

[Hondaracer]

Imo it’s a bit of an overpayment

I can imagine the negotiations now. Demko and Agent sitting at the table thinking “4x4 would be great, 4x5 even better!!”

Then Dim Jim walks in and slaps down 5x5 without negotiation lol..

He’s great and I like him as the starter but the number ain’t great given body of work

[Ch28]

First one is iffy... maybe people are putting too much weight on his recent play? His experience doesn’t back up this deal. Also puts us in a bad spot with Holtby for next season... $10 mill for 2 goalies is not where you want to be.

Holtby is UFA after next season so that's not going to be an issue.

[68style]

Next season is still important no? Pettersson and Hughes to sign?

[SumAznGuy]

Next season is still important no? Pettersson and Hughes to sign?

These players go to UFA at the end of the season.
Sutter's $4.375
Edler's $6M
Jordie Benn $2M
Hamonic $1.25M
Sven Baertschi $2.291M

Edler might be back but at $2M maybe.
I think Benn is gone.
Hamonic should be re-signed for around $2ish.
Baertschi is gone.
Not sure about Sutter. If he will re-sign at less money or the team lets him walk.

Spooner's $1M buyout ends at the end of this season.

That frees up some cap space for DimJim to throw around. And that doesn't include the likes of Vessey and Boyd and a few other small contracts that end at the end of this season.

The end of next season is what JB needs to limp to.
Then Luongo's cap recapture ends and so does Beagle's contract and Loui.
that's over $10M between those 3 contracts.

[68style]

I hope it all works out and none of the replacements for those players costs too much

[domco]

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1377422619973099521
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1377426519211974659

Game Cancelled Tonight

[SkinnyPupp]

Good thing they have like a week of no games banked near the end of the season, so it will be easy to play make up games.

[sonick]

McDonald's game day $2 big Mac deal still on tho!

[SkinnyPupp]

Fuck I haven't had a good Big Mac since McDonald's here was taken over by McDonald's China (it was run by Maxims Group before)

They're even doing the Double Big Mac right now, which I am usually all over. I tried one and couldn't finish it. The beef is so fucking dry now, it's awful. FeelsBadMan

[Obsideon]

Agreed, it will be my last Big Mac for a very long time. Rather take the McChicken.
What is the best (least worst) burger at McDicks now?
I just get the Sausage Egg McMuffin more often than not.

[pastarocket]

Canucks IG account mentions that the team hopes to play their next game on April 8th.

That would be a road game against Calgary on the 8th.

Three games are postponed for the team.

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[SumAznGuy]

Canucks IG account mentions that the team hopes to play their next game on April 8th.

That would be a road game against Calgary on the 8th.

Three games are postponed for the team.

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official announcement comes out at 5pm. fingers crossed.

[68style]

The Athletic's analysis of the Canucks cap situation next year:

The Vancouver Canucks aren’t hedging their bet on Thatcher Demko. They’re going all in.

The Canucks have reportedly signed the 25-year-old goaltender to a five-year, $25 million contract, as first reported by TSN’s Frank Seravalli. The $5 million cap hit would tie Demko with Robin Lehner and Semyon Varlamov as the NHL’s 12th-highest-paid goalie by AAV.

Anytime a contract is signed there’s a tendency to immediately rate the deal either as a steal or as a huge overpayment. However, this extension feels like it slots as a fair deal for both sides — it’s a big bet that clocks in at a reasonable valuation.

From the Canucks’ perspective, they’re able to lock in their No. 1 goalie through his age 26 to 30 campaigns, the prime of his career. The cap hit sets a high bar — Demko is being paid as a high-end starter now — the potential upside comes from the fact that the club’s bought three UFA years at a manageable rate. Had Demko instead signed a two- or three-year bridge deal, it would have walked him directly to unrestricted free agency. Therefore, if Demko maintained his stellar form through a hypothetical bridge deal, it would have cost the Canucks a higher cap hit and forced them to sign him deeper into his early 30s on his next contract.

The front office is making a calculated gamble that he’s the real deal as a consistent, high-end starter. They’re betting on him now rather than kicking the can down the road where he could be more expensive if he retains his elite form from this season.

Meanwhile, Demko’s camp locks in long-term security. The 2014 second-round pick has just 62 career NHL games under his belt, and while he unquestionably has the talent and ability level to be a top netminder in this league, it’s an incredibly volatile position. There have certainly been a few promising goalies, like Carter Hart (not to write him off, he’s still young), Matt Murray, Jordan Binnington and Tristan Jarry, who have tapered off after performing at an elite level in small samples. On that basis, it makes a lot of sense for Demko to sign a contract like this that will set him up financially for life.

This extension does carry fascinating implications for the Canucks’ cap situation. By going long rather than bridging, they’re essentially paying an elevated rate for next season where they were already strapped for space in exchange for the benefit of long-term flexibility. In other words, they were willing to pay a premium for long-term gain even though it makes the forecast for next season more challenging.

This would suggest that the organization may not view 2021-22 as an all-in year — the way they handled this negotiation suggests they believe their window opens in two years rather than next season. That tracks with Jim Benning’s comments last month where he stated that it could take two years for the team to be truly competitive. When considering that 2022-23 is the big year where inefficient contracts peel off the books, this view on the window makes sense even if might not align with their previous contract work like bridging Brock Boeser rather than going long with him.

There’s no question that the extension makes this offseason’s cap dance all the more interesting.

With Demko’s new deal factored in, the Canucks will enter the offseason with 14 players signed at $58.4 million, per CapFriendly, leaving just north of $23 million in space.



(CapFriendly)

That may sound like a decent chunk, but the flexibility disappears very rapidly. For starters, $1.7 million could get chopped off the top from performance bonuses for Elias Pettersson and Quinn Hughes’ entry-level contracts. After that, the Canucks will need to re-sign those two franchise players.

Let’s walk through a hypothetical exercise to illustrate what the situation could look like. The goal here isn’t to be precise about exact numbers since we’re making projections about RFAs that haven’t signed yet — so don’t get caught up over how Player X or Y should be cheaper or more expensive than illustrated here — the idea is simply to get a general snapshot.

Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman posited that the Canucks have budgeted roughly $15 million total for Pettersson and Hughes on bridge deals. If we presume that in conjunction with modest show-me deals for Adam Gaudette and Olli Juolevi, plus Vasili Podkolzin coming over on his ELC, the club runs into a very tight jam. Vancouver would have roughly $3.52 million in space with 19 players signed after these RFA projections and the potential performance bonus overage. That still doesn’t sound too bad; the problem is the number of holes that would remain on this roster:



(CapFriendly)

In this scenario, the Canucks would still need to add a top-four defender to replace Alex Edler. That alone would take up the majority of the club’s remaining cap space. Given how tight it gets, you have to wonder if the Canucks are really just better off letting Tanner Pearson, who’s not currently factored into this projection, walk to free agency, especially since this roster doesn’t look contention-ready.

Now there are obviously ways for the Canucks to clear additional space. If the Canucks can’t shed Jake Virtanen’s salary on the trade market, for instance, a buyout would wipe out $2.5 million of his $2.55 million cap hit. There’s also the possibility of demoting Loui Eriksson to the AHL for the maximum buriable relief (projected to be $1.125 million) and the fact that the club will lose someone to Seattle in the expansion draft.

Again, this is why we’re only presenting this as a general snapshot rather than a precise calculation of their exact situation. There are moving parts, the situation is fluid.

That said, the general snapshot is clear: It’s unlikely the Canucks will have the flexibility this offseason to make substantial upgrades after re-signing their RFAs.

Their hands will very likely be tied again this summer — the team may not be ready to take a significant step forward next year. The Canucks appear to recognize that because the Demko extension works to bolster the club’s long-term cap situation at the expense of their short-term flexibility.

[eclipseman]

😔

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1378005175286255623

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1378008643359105028

[SumAznGuy]

6 new cases and might be double digits in the next few days.
Rumors are a bunch of them went to Whistler over their break.

[sonick]

Not surprised. Even before COVID Whistler was a petri dish of STDs.

[EmperorIS]

Lol Canucks so good

[RiceIntegraRS]

Pretty sure all the Canucks trade bait candidates are all covid positive knowing our luck.

[Sw0op]

f the trade deadline...this isnt a broken bone or tear.....its a virus that could be life changing for some and bigger than hockey itself...hope everyone that is positive comes back as healthy as they can get

[Infiniti]

Its all part of the plan to get extra rest before that deep cup run.

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/adamforsythe/status/1378095629986099200

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/FarhanLaljiTSN/status/1378216686168334339

https://twitter.com/TSNHockey/status/1378210851698642946

[whitev70r]

Oh man, this shit is for real. Top athletes, at the prime of their lives, who are positives getting serious symptoms!

Surely they broke protocols for this outbreak to happen, no? Rumours of partying in Whistler true?

[68style]

I can’t see Edler or Hamonic being Whistler party guys

[SkinnyPupp]

Oh man, this shit is for real. Top athletes, at the prime of their lives, who are positives getting serious symptoms!

Surely they broke protocols for this outbreak to happen, no? Rumours of partying in Whistler true?
Several NFL and college players got fucked up pretty bad. IMO Cam was totally different before and after he got it. He was pretty decent before covid considering...

Hard to believe a year later we still have the "just a flu, you cuck" people... Not sure what it will take to convince them unless they personally know someone who gets it bad. :fulloffuck:

[Mr.Money]

P.1 variant.


social distance isn't making a difference if you're exhaling to your teammates one step behind you.

[mikemhg]

I must say, I'm quite impressed with the testing process @ VCC.

You go in, swish test, and you're out in literally 5 minutes. Results are posted that same evening.

Very organized.

EDIT: I totally thought this was the COVID thread, please ignore :lol

[pastarocket]

I wonder what the league and the Canucks are going to do with the remaining games left in the season.

Hearing news reports that some players on the farm team in Utica have Covid.

A taxi squad may not be an option when our players and the Utica players have Covid.

https://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/vancouver-canucks-farm-team-still-in-covid-19-crisis


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[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1378455808061607942

[pastarocket]

The league needs to stop the season for the Canucks! These are meaningless games anyway for the team.

The health of our players means far more than playing the remaining games.


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[domco]

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1378459566871080960
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1378471271290306568

[bobbinka]

oh man...

[punkwax]

Well I guess on the bright side this would usually happen to the Canucks when they actually had a shot.

Also, anyone reading this who thinks covid shouldn’t be taken seriously, hopefully this changes your tune.

/Silver linings :badpokerface:

[spoon.ek9]

man, just when there was a glimmer of hope this happens. you'd think professional athletes who make bank on their overall health would do everything to avoid getting infected..

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1378743923728916485

[whitev70r]

Is there one player that is NOT Covid positive?

[pastarocket]

Is there one player that is NOT Covid positive?


Perhaps Petey and Loui are okay? I assume that Pettersson has been away from the team practices because of injury. -doing rehab on his own.

As for Eriksson, he has not played games in a while. Maybe he just sits at home during the games. Social distancing. :lawl:

[Harvey Specter]

The ownership and management should be blamed for not enforcing strict protocols during the break. What a disgrace this team has become.

[whitev70r]

^ Yah, I didn't want to kick a horse while it's down but wtf happened to the first person or group who caught it ... and then passed it to the rest ... ??!! What's the real story here, no other team had this many players +'ve.

[EmperorIS]

shit team shit players shit management shit fans shit city shit locals shit government good at nothing great at sucking

[68style]

^ shit post / poster too

[Sw0op]

what's to enforce?

its been reported it doesnt seem as though they broke any health protocols...just seems that this variant is highly transmissable and that because all the other players/staff are in their "bubble"...one caught it and it was transmitted to others...these players are locked in to their hotels/homes/arena for 3.5months already.....they're only human beings you can't keep them caged up forever

[SkinnyPupp]

We don't know the situation, don't believe all the rumors you hear.

Same thing happened with my NFL team, the Ravens. One guy fucked up (the strength and conditioning coach) and was an anti masker. He got covid, gave it to half the team, and they got a HUGE outbreak. Games canceled and rescheduled all throughout the week. They weren't out partying or anything, they just got fucked by the virus.

No other team got such a huge outbreak, but others were busted for breaking the rules with partying and not wearing masks. Other teams got huge fines and lost draft picks, but the team with the biggest outbreak was only fined for the one coach being an anti-masker. It's just luck sometimes.

Sports teams are a ticking timebomb; we all knew there was a good chance of this happening. Can't blame anyone until we know for sure they were negligent. You could go by the book and still get it though, lots of people have.

[whitev70r]

^ Is Whistler rumour true? If so, would that change your view?

[SkinnyPupp]

^ Is Whistler rumour true? If so, would that change your view?
I don't know if it's true or not. If it is and they were negligent, then yeah that would be pretty bad. They had an agreement going into the season, and broke it.

[Sw0op]

are they restricted to going to other "cities" in their home province?

i dont see anything in the return to play protocol...i thought that is only enforced if they are visitors in another province where they have to pretty much stay and park themselves in their hotel

they shut down whistler at the end of the Canucks break so it could just be bad timing

[AzNightmare]

Hard to believe a year later we still have the "just a flu, you cuck" people... Not sure what it will take to convince them unless they personally know someone who gets it bad. :fulloffuck:

Fuck, I know people who have already caught it, survive, bounce back, and rinse and repeat the same lifestyle that lead them to get it in the first place.

:derp:

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/c5/c50424d3fc33671a25cd3e8c973d4ecc.jpeg

[shawnly1000]

https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1379860639175221248

https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/canucks-medical-update/c-323372680

[pastarocket]

The NHL, Bettman and his crew, had better make the right decision to shut the Canucks' season down now!

There is absolutely no way the team can play its remaining games. We don't have enough healthy players, and from the looks of it, no healthy coaches to support the team during the games, team practices, etc.

The players and coaching staffs' long term health must be protected.

[blkgsr]

forget the league, the canucks ownership should shut it down themselves

but knowing how greedy and corrupt they are they'd never come to that conclusion on their own.

[68style]

They can’t just shut it down, you got playoff implications and standings for other teams as well... they have to extend

Not sure what a greedy owner has to do with it though? There’s nobody attending the games.

[pastarocket]

They canÂ’t just shut it down, you got playoff implications and standings for other teams as well... they have to extend

Not sure what a greedy owner has to do with it though? ThereÂ’s nobody attending the games.

The long term health implications for our Canucks mean much more than the playoff implications and standings for other teams. A LOT MORE.

I honestly do not care about how the other Canadian teams finish in the standings.

What if the team can't play any games for 2 to 3 months based on the team doctor's advice? Then what?

If the Canucks face that scenario, the league can use each Canadian team's winning percentage to determine which team makes the playoffs based on remaining games they play against non-Canucks teams. These are possible scenarios.

[sonick]

They can’t just shut it down, you got playoff implications and standings for other teams as well... they have to extend

Not sure what a greedy owner has to do with it though? There’s nobody attending the games.

They take win % if for some reason not every team is able to play all the games this season.

[68style]

The long term health implications for our Canucks mean much more than the playoff implications and standings for other teams. A LOT MORE.

I honestly do not care about how the other Canadian teams finish in the standings.



I agree and me neither............. but you can be damn sure the NHL cares.

[Ch28]

https://twitter.com/patersonjeff/status/1379904693942423552

[68style]

Even Covid won't infect Prince Charming, guy is immune to everything

[Infiniti]

Even Covid won't infect Prince Charming, guy is immune to everything

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article18126609.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Duke-of-York.jpg

[BlackV62K2]

Lets say the team "recovers" and continues to play, how shit will their performance be due to lingering covid after effects. This isn't just 1 or 2 players, its basically the entire team.

[MarkyMark]

Lets say the team "recovers" and continues to play, how shit will their performance be due to lingering covid after effects. This isn't just 1 or 2 players, its basically the entire team.

Time to get that first round draft pick baby.

[68style]

Just watch we will get it......... in the weakest draft in years

[Expresso]

Just watch we will get it......... in the weakest draft in years

This is the way.


But the rate Calgary is playing, they'll likely pick higher.

[Hondaracer]

Lets say the team "recovers" and continues to play, how shit will their performance be due to lingering covid after effects. This isn't just 1 or 2 players, its basically the entire team.

That’s assuming there will be any lingering effects.

[RiceIntegraRS]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/report-canucks-sign-tanner-pearson-to-3-year-975-m-extension-220308861.html

Pearson 3 Years @ 3.25M AAV

Bad Deal

edit* Full NTC First Year and 7 Team NTC Second Year. 3rd Year nothing, but doesnt matter cause he will be worthless by then

[Alpine]

Oh boy. GG Canucks lol.

[BlackV62K2]

Ffs and NTC

[pastarocket]

Dim Jim strikes out again. :lawl:

[wreck]

unbelievable.

Pearson is at best a mediocre skater, about to turn 29, and his production has completely flatlined over his last 45ish games once you factor out empty net points.

completely replaceable player, on a team that barely has enough cap space to sign its two star players to their second contracts, let alone improve the roster.

he was also their most tradeable asset (pending UFA, cup pedigree, no trade protection).

JB could not have played this situation any worse.

[68style]

Hahahahahhahaha fuck I’m so done with the management of this team... I supported Benning when a lot of people didn’t but handing people money and term just cuz they’re of good character is for teams that like to lose.

Literally got handed a gift with Boyd and Vessey and Hawyrluk all being good guys for 3/4 line duties and 1-2M max each and learn nothing from the mistakes of paying 3rd line (cuz that’s where Pearson will be!) guys 3+????

Oh AND we are protecting him in the expansion draft when we don’t have to.... L O L

[SkinnyPupp]

What are the arguments in favour of Pearson?

What does a 50-point forward make on average in the NHL?

[Alpine]

JB is 10 years behind. He's building a team of grinders when it's talent and speed that gets the job done now.

[68style]

So Toffoli, who makes a noticeable difference every shift, wasn't worth it at 4.25... but Pearson, who is invisible, slow and has no vision and never met a bad angle shot he didn't like taking......... but is somewhat defensively responsible... is a good idea at 3.25?

Sound logic.

[68style]

What are the arguments in favour of Pearson?

What does a 50-point forward make on average in the NHL?

That might be relevant if he was a 50pt player... he's a 40pt player at best... take away his empty net scoring and it's probably 30-35pts.

[Ch28]

GMJB is currently in year 2 of his 3 year contract extension.

Part of me feels AQ is going to ride that contract out and then bring in a new GM.

[68style]

FWIW on the cap sites, I could only find 3 regular LW players this season who are scoring at less than .5pts per game that have a cap hit of more than $2 million and all 3 of them are under $2.5.

Ouch.

[TjAlmeida]

Another 3 million dollar plug. wtf..

[BlackV62K2]

JB is 10 years behind. He's building a team of grinders when it's talent and speed that gets the job done now.

Trying to rebuild that Boston team that beat 10 years ago....

[spoon.ek9]

i seriously don't get it. i like pearson for what he brings but talk about over payment. you'd think JB would have learnt a damn thing from the current contracts completely strangling this team but NOPE.

[snowball]

Trying to rebuild that Boston team that beat 10 years ago....

They forgot that we had Tampa style team that got to the finals in the first place. We've given up our identity and spent 10 years trying to replicate Boston even though it basically one guy standing on his head that stopped us. :pokerface:

[Obsideon]

Sutter's contract was about to expire so DimJim needed to act swiftly to secure another bad 3rd line contract :troll:

[Bouncing Bettys]

They forgot that we had Tampa style team that got to the finals in the first place. We've given up our identity and spent 10 years trying to replicate Boston even though it basically one guy standing on his head that stopped us. :pokerface:
That and the DoPS, "game management" officials, and an owner who is the chairman of the NHL Board of Governors.

[Expresso]

haha at this point is anyone really surprised? JB always does the opposite of what you expect a normal GM to do.

How many times have we passed up opportunities to reap some draft picks from our UFAs in the last 7 years now.

[sonick]

What are the odds JB gets fired this offseason?

Although I don't know what GM wants to take over the shitshow of contracts right now.

[CRS]

What are the odds JB gets fired this offseason?

Although I don't know what GM wants to take over the shitshow of contracts right now.

Nil.

Aquaman not putting in more money into this.

[Hondaracer]

I’m not sure they would be, but all things equal I would take Sutter again all day at that price over Pearson ffs..

This trend of giving out the max money a player could possibly get continues..

[SumAznGuy]

Nil.

Aquaman not putting in more money into this.

The irony. Save a few bucks not paying for JB but JB spends AQ's money on plugs and will continue to do it till JB's contract ends.

[Liquid_o2]

I'm sure Aqualini approved this re-signing. When I heard the news I almost crashed my car. GMJB couldn't make it to the summer and decide what he wanted to do? No team out there was going to give Pearson that kind of money in a flat cap year. Holy shit this team is becoming unwatchable due to the idiocy of this man. He just keeps throwing money out to role players like the cap increases 5% every year! I just don't understand how he couldn't resign TT who is a legit top 6 forward, but he throws around money at 3rd and 4th liners like its nobody's business. Let this man scout + draft and do nothing else.

[RiceIntegraRS]

We staple this guy to Bo for his entire tenure with the Canucks. We gift him empty net ice team to pad his stats. Even though he is having a down year, his trade value is as high as itll ever be because of what he did last season. Instead of trading him, we re-sign him at a premium....... inks not even dry yet and everyone knows this is a bad deal.

Fire Benning now please

[Infiniti]

Everyone stay tuned, Sutter gonna get re-signed as well.

[SumAznGuy]

Well, reports say Beagle might be done, LTIR the last year of his contract.
That frees up some money.

JB supposedly said this year, the instability with letting Tanev and Marky walk caused a lot of issues in the dressing room and we saw it on the ice in Jan. JB just didn't want to make the same mistake as last year and run out of time so it's easier to make the same mistake from 2 years ago and over pay for 3rd and 4th line players.

[BlackV62K2]

Well, reports say Beagle might be done, LTIR the last year of his contract.
That frees up some money.

JB supposedly said this year, the instability with letting Tanev and Marky walk caused a lot of issues in the dressing room and we saw it on the ice in Jan. JB just didn't want to make the same mistake as last year and run out of time so it's easier to make the same mistake from 2 years ago and over pay for 3rd and 4th line players.

Jim "Loves Making Same Mistakes" Benning. Plugs on the team cost more than the star players on the team :drunk: :fulloffuck:. Fuck this team lol. He had a chance to build a contending team while the young star players were still on the cheap and he squandered it away on terrible signings.

[Obsideon]

The Canucks have achieved Herd Immunity! :drunk:

[Teriyaki]

Herd immunity to success because we sign dumb contracts?

[sonick]

Rumours of Gaudette to Chicago

https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1381640957158948880

https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNHL/status/1381641202961952771

https://twitter.com/irfgaffar/status/1381641250193870854

[Expresso]

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1381641431790551059


No idea who Matthew Highmore is...wonder if this has to do with the fact he potentially gave covid to the entire team.

[CRS]

Apparently it's expansion protection between Gaud and Lind?

I have no idea what Big Brain JB is doing anymore.

[Ch28]

Garbage trade by a trash GM

[RiceIntegraRS]

GMJB "Pearson had a career year last year but is having a down year this year. Lets give him an extension, 3@3.25 AAV"

GMJB "Gaudette had a career year last year but is having a down year this year. Lets trade him away for nothing"

This is too comical. If your not a canuck fan

[highfive]

Apparently it's expansion protection between Gaud and Lind?

I have no idea what Big Brain JB is doing anymore.

That's what people are saying.

Who do we protect?

Bo, Boeser, Miller, Pearson, Lind?

2 spots opened. I guess they're going hunting on other teams who needs protection?

[BlackV62K2]

Protect Loui of course....

[CRS]

Benn to Jets

https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1381689898604883969

[pastarocket]

Benning is clearing up more cap space in order to sign Pettersson and Hughes to new contracts? :suspicious:

[sonick]

Canucks get Madison Bowey from CHI for a 4th rd pick.

[BlackV62K2]

Benning is clearing up more cap space in order to sign Pettersson and Hughes to new contracts? :suspicious:

Clearing up cap space to sign more plugs to stupid contracts.

[EvoFire]

I don't understand why or how Benning traded Gaudette for a AHLer. We didn't shed a whole lot of salary (~200k), there's no upside and no picks coming.

We won on the Gaudette pick (5th rd) and promptly lose it on a trade.

[murd0c]

shits coming out that Gaudette was an anti-masker which is the main reason why Covid hit the Canucks so bad. A lot of the players on the team were sick and tired of him so Benning got what he can for him since he was turning into a cancer in the room.

[RiceIntegraRS]

shits coming out that Gaudette was an anti-masker which is the main reason why Covid hit the Canucks so bad. A lot of the players on the team were sick and tired of him so Benning got what he can for him since he was turning into a cancer in the room.

Well with all the rumours surrounding him and his wife i dont see it being that far-fetched. I wouldnt be surprised that his teammates are pissed at him, putting the health of themselves and there families at risk. But even if it were true, the return is still garbage, i know the Nashville Predators have inquired about him many times.

[whitev70r]

^ wouldn't that have violated some NHL policy which means, they could have suspended his arse? Prevented him from coming to the rink?

[SkinnyPupp]

Well with all the rumours surrounding him and his wife i dont see it being that far-fetched. I wouldnt be surprised that his teammates are pissed at him, putting the health of themselves and there families at risk. But even if it were true, the return is still garbage, i know the Nashville Predators have inquired about him many times.
If a guy is a known problem, you're not going to get much for him. Usually if it's not a draft pick you get another guy who has been a problem for that team LUL

[68style]

Gaudette and rumours aside..............

We give up a 4th pick for a guy who can't stay in the NHL... but we get a 6th pick for a dman who's cheap and playing regularly?

WTF?

[Hondaracer]

Time for aqualini to fly down to Florida and beg Luongo to come be GM?

[bobbinka]

Making room for Loui's extension and raise

[RiceIntegraRS]

^ wouldn't that have violated some NHL policy which means, they could have suspended his arse? Prevented him from coming to the rink?

Well the rumour is that his wife is the one that caught it, gave it to Gaudette then the other players. And since sometimes it takes awhile for symptoms to show it was too just late to stop it. Im not entirely sure on the details but apparently his wife was very open on either twitter or a podcast on how she wasnt following covid guidelines. Which would play into the whole narrative that alot of the players want him gone cause his wife was so wreckless and Gaudette was apparently an antimasker and possibly a trump supporter(which he denied saying he doesnt follow politics enough to choose a side)

The only time where the Canucks did fuck up was when Gaudette did test positive, they still held practise which more than likely infected more players then it should have. Again this is rumours but it all just makes sense

[RiceIntegraRS]

Gaudette and rumours aside..............

We give up a 4th pick for a guy who can't stay in the NHL... but we get a 6th pick for a dman who's cheap and playing regularly?

WTF?

Just to clarify we gave up a 4th round pick for Bowey and a 5th round pick. The move was done so the Canucks would have a defenceman to expose for the expansion draft.

Dont think there would be any cheap enough defencemen on waivers where they would meet the requirements to be exposed

[Ch28]

The only time where the Canucks did fuck up was when Gaudette did test positive, they still held practise which more than likely infected more players then it should have. Again this is rumours but it all just makes sense

This is not on the Canucks as they were simply following NHL COVID protocol. If anyone wants to lay blame then do so against the league.

[6thGear.]

No one seems to remember that Gaudette is on a "show us" contract and he didn't show anything this year. Can't play 3rd line center, defensive liability and was not putting up points and getting healthy scratches this season. If the rumors are true about him bringing Covid into the dressing room then that's the final straw for him to get shipped out.

[Infiniti]

No one seems to remember that Gaudette is on a "show us" contract and he didn't show anything this year. Can't play 3rd line center, defensive liability and was not putting up points and getting healthy scratches this season. If the rumors are true about him bringing Covid into the dressing room then that's the final straw for him to get shipped out.

They should've traded him last year when they probably could've fetched more for him. Instead, as is the case with this management group, always taking the reactive approach, never proactive.

[winson604]

Buy high sell low!

[Expresso]

This is not on the Canucks as they were simply following NHL COVID protocol. If anyone wants to lay blame then do so against the league.

The league did send out a covid reminder memo at the same time Canucks announced 14 players had it. Speculation is some one slipped up.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/nhl-issues-memo-teams-reiterating-rules-mitigate-spread-covid-19/

[68style]

The protocols, as someone else mentioned, don’t make any sense anyway. You have to isolate when in the road, can’t leave your rooms at all but when you’re at home it’s life as usual? How is that effective at all?

I mean I saw Jay Beagle at an elementary school picking up his kids in the first part of the season... what’s the point of quarantining in a hotel in Montreal or Winnipeg if you just interacted with like 100 people a few days beforehand?

It’s all kind of stupid, something like this happening was inevitable.

[AzNightmare]

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet650/status/1382456421724327948

[pastarocket]

https://twitter.com/Sportsnet650/status/1382456421724327948


What Miller said about the remaining 19 game schedule shows you the courageous leadership that he shows for the team.

Bettman, the NHL, and team ownership are putting money ahead of the team’s long term health.

A bunch of selfish dirtbags!


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[68style]

^ Is he sounding courageous?

It sounds like they’re just going to mail it in which I’m fine with cuz we have no chance anyway

I care about people’s health too, but at the same time if you’re getting paid $5 million + a year to do something 50 times............ it’s a bit hard to feel overly sympathetic at having to work a bit harder/play more back to backs.

Regular people are getting sick running grocery tills and risking their health for minimum wage every day and don’t have access to the medical care and benefits these guys have. Nowhere even close.

[pastarocket]

I am looking at the “courageous” part for Miller and the team from a health perspective.

Regular people who work in the front lines as medical workers or grocery store staff do not need to be super fit in order to do their jobs.

They do not go to hockey practices or train in gyms with professional trainers
In order to their jobs.

The entire team had Covid. The league is forcing them to play games while their players are in a weaker state.

I am interested to see if the team doctors have said anything publicly to reporters about what medical staff can do if some of our Canucks start getting sick during or after playing these games.

As Miller said, it is about their health and their families. That is what is the most important now.

The players are taking a big risk with their long term health to play meaningless games.

Just because you are being paid large amounts of money to play an intense sport means you have to risk your long term health after your pro hockey career has ended?

Honestly, would anyone here take that big a risk after getting Covid? Money from playing meaningless NHL games means more than your long term health after getting Covid? That is your priority?


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[sonick]

^ Is he sounding courageous?

It sounds like they’re just going to mail it in which I’m fine with cuz we have no chance anyway

I care about people’s health too, but at the same time if you’re getting paid $5 million + a year to do something 50 times............ it’s a bit hard to feel overly sympathetic at having to work a bit harder/play more back to backs.

Regular people are getting sick running grocery tills and risking their health for minimum wage every day and don’t have access to the medical care and benefits these guys have. Nowhere even close.

Not just the health and the effort aspect of it, many seem to forget that hockey is a dangerous sport. It's not a Broadway "the show must go on" scenario that many seem to think it is.

You dont hear about frequent injuries because the best in the world are matched up relatively equally. If you're not 100% and are matched up with the best in the world, there is a higher chance of injury.

Imagine Quinn Hughes, which sounds like he had pretty severe symptoms, is trying to hold the blue line with Milan Lucic bearing down on him and lining Hughes up for a big hit.

You think Hughes, who is just barely recovering from COVID, stands a chance? You think Lucic would have the thought to pull back in the heat of the moment?

It's potentially putting lives and careers at risk.

[Spoon]

It sounds like they’re just going to mail it in which I’m fine with cuz we have no chance anyway

I care about people’s health too, but at the same time if you’re getting paid $5 million + a year to do something 50 times............ it’s a bit hard to feel overly sympathetic at having to work a bit harder/play more back to backs.

Regular people are getting sick running grocery tills and risking their health for minimum wage every day and don’t have access to the medical care and benefits these guys have. Nowhere even close.

Ever get that big pay day and say WOW? How long does that money keep you motivated? Maybe a week or so? Then at some point, you normalize and think you deserve it.

The dollar amount rarely affects anything. In fact, you just have more to lose. Nobody in their right mind will risk their health or careers for one season (particularly when the team's not performing) when they're trying to make the good money as long as they can.

[68style]

Regular people get Covid and have to go back to work in weakened state to not default on their mortgage or lose their job?

I really think you’re buying into the celebrity of being an NHL player a bit too much...

And if you’re going to campaign on behalf of the players just getting a pass on 19 games of a season, propose a solution? I don’t really get where you’re getting that idea from either, you think the league is making tonnes of money from these games that nobody attends? Tv contract? Where’s the proof? If anything the league also saves money by not putting the games on.

Heck if the owner doesn’t have to pay his arena staff and every player basically goes LTIR for 19 games he saves millions in salary he doesn’t have to personally pay anymore because it comes a large percentage out of NHLPA insurance if that happens, so saying the owner is greedy in this circumstance doesn’t hold water for me at all.

So what’s your solution? Hand a win to every team that would have played them? Montreal is trying to make the playoffs and they don’t have any games left against a Vancouver all their opponents get bonus points they didn’t earn and pass them because of it? Draft positions are affected? If you’re going to complain so much then explain how the league is supposed to handle one team getting a doctor’a note.

If anything, if any individual player has long lasting effects from this, put them on IR just like any other players that got it during the season and allow the Canucks leniency in call-ups or replacements, but have you seen any other player in the NHL who got COVID miss more than their prescribed number of games and then come back to play? Maybe Pietrangelo’s absence went a bit longer than it was supposed to but that’s about it. You’re just assuming the doctors haven’t had any say in this or the NHLPA doesn’t care.

[68style]

The dollar amount rarely affects anything. In fact, you just have more to lose. Nobody in their right mind will risk their health or careers for one season (particularly when the team's not performing) when they're trying to make the good money as long as they can.

There’s risk every time you step on the ice. Why go busting into a corner against a 6’5” dman to win a puck battle and risk your health? Why skate full speed down the wing and risks bodycheck or concussion and brain problems for old age? Why stand in front of the net getting the shit beat out of your back and knees? To win a shiny silver cup? Bragging rights? Personal achievement level unlocked?

So every player in the league should take a step back off the gas and do the bare minimum to preserve their health and money, no extra efforts, sounds like a great thing to watch — a sport full of people getting paid millions and millions of dollars to do something they chose to do but do it super safely so they can maximize their income.

The whole concept of pro sports or getting into pro sports, save for baseball or golf maybe, is complete asinine if long term health is anyone’s concern. They do it cuz they love the competition and the money. Imagine every player played like Pierre Luc Dubois in the shift ther got him benched/traded... everyone would be super safe and get their paycheque.

Do you want to watch that? Would they all still get paid how they do if they all played like that?

Again if someone is legit sick and weak after recovering, sit them, no point in players who are busted being out there... but I don’t think every player that got sick gets sick the same way or level. If Quinn Hughes is bedridden then sit him don’t force him to play nothing wrong with that, I’m not advocating sending dudes out who are ill but you’re all just assuming cuz Miller got on a podium that everyone is being forced to play on crutches.

[pastarocket]

As of right now, the NHL has not proposed any “solutions” or workarounds in case the Canucks cannot play all of their remaining 19 games.

I am gonna just wait and see what Bettman and the rest of his cronies do if things really go south.

Who wants to play armchair commissioner to help out the Canucks during Covid and propose solutions to issues about playoff position and draft order impacts if not all games can be played?



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[68style]

You think Hughes, who is just barely recovering from COVID, stands a chance? You think Lucic would have the thought to pull back in the heat of the moment?

It's potentially putting lives and careers at risk.

So sit Hughes. Is everyone else on their deathbed?

I’m not an asshole my mind can be changed but I don’t buy the idea that guys are being forced to play on half their lung capacity or things like that

The owner has a significant investment in the players long term health too.

[pastarocket]

So sit Hughes. Is everyone else on their deathbed?


No need for the sarcasm.

Although I cannot relate to what the Canucks are going through right now, as a die hard Canucks fan for the past 30 plus years (yes I am old Pasta haha), I am concerned about the team’s health going into these meaningless games.

Imagine trying to get back doing a job when you need to be at top physical conditioning after you and your team mates had Covid.

No games or practices for over two weeks too. Yikes.


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[68style]

Honestly I think where NHL is really dropping the ball (and the NHLPA for that matter) is not spacing the games out more and starting playoffs later, but I wouldn’t cancel them completely.

I think the games being too close together is the injury risk, 5 games in 7 nights is ridiculous and goes against the integrity of the game just as much as not playing at all does.

[68style]

No need for the sarcasm.

Although I cannot relate to what the Canucks are going through right now, as a die hard Canucks fan for the past 30 plus years (yes I am old Pasta haha), I am concerned about the team’s health going into these meaningless games.


It’s not sarcasm, it’s an honest question.

I’m old too 1991 I started watching haha

[68style]

I read Thomas Drance’s article and he makes a good point and solution — I agree with him that all the games against the Senators, who aren’t making the playoffs, those will have no consequence on any other team they should just give them each 2 wins and 2 losses and X those off the schedule, that would make a huge difference in the stress on the team.

edit: I finished reading his article, I can see where my opinion is a bit harsh... like I stand by the fact cancelling all games = bad for the integrity of the game but I also understand having a shit team play meaningless games = also bad for the integrity of the game.

I think my main barb with the whole thing is just assuming that enough players are showing lingering effects to constitute calling it a day. I mean... Dallas had 17 payers with COVID and they're playing their season... and I don't believe they have any chance of making the playoffs, was the reaction the same for them? I don't follow the team so I honestly can't say.

I really don't know what the answer is. I think they're in too deep to cancel the games completely. However, the NHL just isn't providing enough time........... prep wise and game wise... and not postponing the start of the playoffs in the USA to match the Canadian division is also a massive error.

[Sw0op]

that was at the beginning of the season when the stars caught Covid...this is like near the end when our playoff hopes is pretty much gone...plus i think they were off for 2 weeks and had a day or 2 for practice?

the canucks had like 3 weeks off and when they come back...youre playing teams that are fighting for a playoff spot or have something to play off...which means the intensity is a lot higher

[Expresso]

They're going to play these games out but how is the unknown. There's too many implications in terms of playoffs and draft standings to simply just cancel them. At this rate and whatever the solution is, it'll probably mean Canucks near the bottom. But I'll take the high draft pick.

[whitev70r]

Send in healthy AHL players, see how they perform. If all else fails, use UBC varsity players, or zamboni drivers.

I do see the risk in playing someone who is just recovering from a serious bout of Covid ... so many unknowns. Much of it is respiratory and can you imagine if you're gasping for air by middle of 1st period?

[Sw0op]

Just take a look at what happened to the Raptors when they got it....when they came back they were nowhere near the same players as they couldn't keep up with the pace trhoughout the game...and then you want this to happen when there is hitting involved?

[Hondaracer]

Well it’s not even about covid. Even if they didn’t have covid a month off of skating and then going up against one of the top teams in the division? Worst case scenario with or without covid

[BlackV62K2]

Call the season and give us that damn #1 1st round pick....even though the draft pool isnt as great.

[whitev70r]

Calling it for the Canucks midseason should certainly be considered although to my knowledge, this situation has never happened before where a team has to shut down mid-season but hey, we've never seen a plague like this for 100 years so ...

Just go by winning percentage in the Canadian division for playoff position. It's going to be between Calgary and Montreal.

As for draft, not fair to just give it to us based on points ... to be fair, use winning percentage as well ... there are 4 teams with less points in the league that have been playing their schedule out. Canucks might still not be the lowest point team .. at the end of the season !!

[sonick]

Game vs Edmonton on Fridayhas been postponed.

[pastarocket]

Good decision to postpone.

I highly doubt that the team passed their cardiology tests this week.

-way too dangerous to play these games now.

-gotta bench McDavid for my hockey pool team for tomorrow's game. LUL