Did you size down? There are no rules, you can do whatever you want so if you feel they are loose then go ahead and give them a soak.

Hhhmmm maybe I'll give it a shot then. I just don't want to screw them up somehow haha.

sure but they'll just stretch back within a short period of time anyway.

Just got a pair of 14.5 oz Unbranded for $33 at Metro Plenty.
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Yeah true say.

Oddly enough though. I did a hot soak on a pair of cheap (and I mean cheap) raw denim jeans from the states and the tightness/"shrink factor" has kept for quite some time. I wonder if it'll yield the same results on better quality denim?

Hmm to minimize stretching you have to size down a lot. I also find that entry level raw denim stretches and loses their shape more compared to more expensive options.
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^True that.

My Unbranded stretched out like over a whole size

When you guys talk about stretching, do you mean stretching only in the waist or throughout the jean? On my N&F denim it stretched a shitload in front of the knee and thighs, as well as the waist.

Do you guys say that's because of the denim or because of my tendency to bend my knees alot?

It depends on how tight it is too. If its tight around your thighs, it will stretch more than if its loose.

what about these? Think they are any good?
Selvage authentic fit jeans (rigid rinse) | Gap

APPLY CODE: GAPCFUN (extra 25% off sale prices)

$35 selvage denim O_O? got two pairs to try out myself

if link doesnt work... go to gap website, then hit sale, then jeans... lots of sizes left it seems... free ship over $50 add a filler or something or two pairs :)


or these
http://www.gapcanada.ca/browse/produ...d=1&pid=852736
for $15.74 non selvage...

The sale cuts looks ugly (for my body type, at least). They've got what looks to be loose cut, a boot cut, and a straight cut. If they had a nice slim taper, I'd love to try it, but my legs aren't muscular enough for those kinds of cuts and I prefer small leg openings.

Thanks for the heads-up, though. Might buy a pair of washed denim.

free returns in any store..cant hurt to try em for such a price thats my take on it. ordered 2 selvage n 1 non selvage... wonder how many i'll keep?

Holy baggy, batman.

But if more relaxed fitting is your thing, then $35 is worth a shot.

size down like 10 sizes for those ones lolol

maybe i dont have chicken legs :d

I couldn't size down any further lol. If I did I wouldn't be able to close the top button. But according to the guy at Dutil, that's normal and people buy jeans that they can't close at initial purchase. I don't know how comfortable I am with that idea.

im a 32 i bought the apc NS im wearing right now in a 30.
couldnt button up the top 2 for like a week. this was maybe 2-3 years ago.
right now they fit perfect which is hard for most apc owners to say.

Ended up copping jbxmomo 0100SP :fullofwin: :okay:
It's like an N&F Skinny Guy fit but with an inch bigger waist. Going to go finish up this week with my N&F denim, then a machine wash, then hanging them up for good.

Here's some pics of my Samurai S0510XXs which I've been wearing for about 4 years in rotation:
http://www.brianlikesgames.com/Pics/Misc/IMG_4250.jpg
http://www.brianlikesgames.com/Pics/Misc/IMG_4251.jpg
http://www.brianlikesgames.com/Pics/Misc/IMG_4252.jpg
http://www.brianlikesgames.com/Pics/Misc/IMG_4254.jpg
http://www.brianlikesgames.com/Pics/Misc/IMG_4257.jpg

Interesting honeycombs :megusta:

Intense leg twist :ahwow: Love the arcs.

How many washes?

my sams tore at the pockets too. had to repair it recently

Never washed. Probably soaked about 3 or 4 times.

Lol my left pocket where I leave my change has a hole in it too so even if I manage to get my hands in the actual pocket liner, small change ends up dropping out down my pant leg haha