This is probably why he only got the 1 year contract to prove himself. If we don't make a big splash in the post season you can be pretty sure he won't be back. I have a feeling the twins won't be back either. oh well.


Deja vu from last season seriously.

i told my buddy that we should get the exact same coaches u mentioned.

It's true that the results on the ice is ultimately determined by the players alone. But aren't players playing on the paremeters set out to them by the coach.

Also, isn't the strategy of defensive 1 goal differential games the coach's decision as well. It worked the 1st year AV was here as were were in the good end of those 1 goal games, but backfired horribly last season, and again this season on the eve of Luongo's injury. Kind of makes you think whether the strategy of being in the right side of 1 goal games is based on luck.

Lastly, you can't treat established NHL players like you do your junior players. Yes you want to make players accountable but they're not kids. Demoting Naslund to an abyss of pluggers, same thing with Demitra this year. Also under utilizing your key players such as Wellwood (who was brought in to finish plays) and Hordichuk (to better establish our physical presence) for pluggers to grind games out instead.

Shit, I can go on but that's the gist of it. I haven't even started with lack of line consistency. Mike Gillis has already put a good team on paper.

He upgraded the scoring abilities our with the acquisition of Sundin & Wellwood to add from the Sedins
He improved our overall toughness with the acquisition of Hordichuk and O' Brien to add from Brown and Rypien
We have one of the best checking lines in the league which also provides our team speed.
We have arguably one of the best goaltenders in the NHL, backed up by Sanford and now LaBarbera.
We have a solid D when Ohlund, Salo, Mitchell, Bieksa and Edler who (Salo & Edler) are also proven scoring threats on the blue with their shot.

What the hell else does AV need?

I don't care who's fault it is anymore. I don't have a man-crush on AV, so I don't care if he leaves. And who can possibly make it worst? Canucks are on a losing streak. If I was coach, Canucks would lose too. What's the diff?

Mitchell, Raymond + O'Brien fighting. Awesome. Just Awesome.

Sundin assigned to checking line.

Fucking great. Very smart move AV...very fucking smart.

Well you'll never be a coach so we don't have to worry about that. I think it's a stupid comparison. They get paid the big bucks, so they should know what's working and what's not, all AV does is rely on Lu when the game is close and he did last year making him look so smart with his system.. but not anymore lol.

7 games in a row and you put sundin with Burrows/Kesler? not saying anything wrong with that but I'm sure we didn't sign him to play a checking role. Sundin/Demitra is getting paid the big bucks so if we are going to lose might as well lose with them playing together in the 2nd or 1st line and let them get used to eachother. It seems like AV thinks these players will just build chemistry after 1 game or something lol.

anwyays...enough about ranting. lol.. go canucks!! =)

while anyone can say that it's the players fault for not being good enough, it's the coaches that give them the game plan. such as how many/hard to forecheck, formations, etc etc. his plan worked 2 years ago when nonis 'rebuilt' the team from the net out and didn't have the offensive capabilities. this year gillis continues nonis' work by providing some god damn offensive power and AV isn't adjusting his styles to complement his new players. this means using players where they should be. wake up calls are okay, keeping your star players with players that do not compliment his style, not so good.

mike johnson, assistant coach under crawford and IMO, the one that should have gotten the job over AV could be a good consideration

go flames go

Noir: I can understand what you're getting at.

But yea, the Canucks MAIN THING is that they just need ONE win, just one and they'll have confidence in themselves again.

Yeah I don't get why he's in the checking line. Isn't the role of that line to shut down the opposing team's best players. I thought we were paid Sundin $8 mil to help our scoring lines?

Kinda makes you feel for Naslund, Sedins, Demo & Welly eh. You get public pressure to score more but are put in the most difficult situations to do so.

First of all, you're placed in an offensively restricted system
Second of all, in a defensivley focused team, if you happen to go on a 5 game pointless streak, you're considered useless and demoted in icetime and of linemates.

Does anybody remember Trevor Linden holding a closed door meeting/speech in the locker room before a game. IIRC, it was closed doors even to the coaching staff themselves. Apart from Naslund departing due to Vigneault, was this also an indication of a divide between Linden and Vigneault?

probably because its our checking line that did the scoring yesterday haha

probably

Oh wow, they're fighting now in practice? What a bloody disgrace this team has become. It's becoming more obvious by the hour that AV and his bench clowns have lost this team.

This is horrible... I wished Gillis can quickly find someone suitable to replace AV. If AV likes juggling lines so much, he should juggle himself away.

Canucks have a solid team on paper. Don't waste this oppurtunity.

So who would you suggest we hire?

Pat Quinn?

Linden :D. That's the only way to guarantee bringing the team back on the same page. But that's just wishful thinking :)

On a little more serious note, I like Crawford. Apart from the goaltending, that guy was on the helm of the Canuck's most exciting and productive years.

Not sure if Pat would want to come in and fix this mess. I wouldn't mind seeing John Tortorella but he could do more damage with his coaching style and temper.

I would love to see linden somehow be apart of the organization but there is no evidence to say that great players make great coaches.

Fine. I wonder if Coach Gordon Bombay is available.

He'd tie these guys in a rope and teach them to stick together. :lol

He'd also show Bernier that getting garbage goals are still goals.

Possibly, or John Tortorella.

AV should go work at a circus since he likes to juggle so much.

we should try Linden as coach

AV is so stupid...he should just leave these lines and if we lose he's out simple as that.

Sedin Sedin Wellwood
Demitra Sundin Bernier
Burrows Kesler Hansen
Hordichuk Johnson Jaffray

Av is a moron for the following reasons;

benching Wellwood, the 2nd highest goal scorer on the team constantly
Playing Pyatt like he's the savior
Playing Sundin on a checking line??