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winson604 06-13-2009 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bengy (Post 6463666)
Explain why he didn't get the MVP then?

The fact that Malkin got MVP doesn't mean that he is undeniably a better player than Crosby. It just means that during this years playoffs Malkin was better. Bottom line if I had to build a team around somebody and had a choice between Malkin or Crosby id pick Crosby in a heart beat. Don't get me wrong, Malkin is definitely a sick player but I think Crosby is just better. Brain cramp right now but the Anaheim goalie back in 2003 won the MVP did he not? Does that mean he's a better goalie than Brodeur?

Anyways awesome year of hockey although disappointed with the Canucks again but will always believe. LOL I even bought the replica Stanley Cup.

B-DiZzLe 06-13-2009 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 6463718)
The fact that Malkin got MVP doesn't mean that he is undeniably a better player than Crosby. It just means that during this years playoffs Malkin was better. Bottom line if I had to build a team around somebody and had a choice between Malkin or Crosby id pick Crosby in a heart beat. Don't get me wrong, Malkin is definitely a sick player but I think Crosby is just better. Brain cramp right now but the Anaheim goalie back in 2003 won the MVP did he not? Does that mean he's a better goalie than Brodeur?

Anyways awesome year of hockey although disappointed with the Canucks again but will always believe. LOL I even bought the replica Stanley Cup.

+1

There's no reason really, I like both of them, they're both elite players and have bright futures ahead of them, but Crosby excels in the leadership role more than Malkin. They both played tremendous hockey this year and it's not easy to pick an MVP out of these two as Crosby was great early on and Malkin turned it up in the end.

Tim Budong 06-13-2009 03:24 AM

Fact is, The Malkin/Crosby duel is mighty

look at the caps/pens series. Malkin was cold, Crosby fills his void by SCORING. Throughout the whole playoffs, Crosby was the playmaker and others would finish, but he will step up and fill the role whenever someone was cold/injured. He has for sure silenced my doubts about this kid with all his whiney bullshit. let him whine, but he finished the playoffs with a splash. Sad to see him limping to the bench, but he played the final period like there was nothing wrong with him

68style 06-13-2009 06:41 AM

That CBC playoff montage reminded me how many times the Canucks got sticked or elbowed in the face and there was no call from the refs LOL

MG1 06-13-2009 08:05 AM

Wow......... stopped watching hockey after the Canucks lost.

Awesome that the Pens won. Good for them. Detroit doesn't need another cup.

AzNightmare 06-13-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6463863)
Wow......... stopped watching hockey after the Canucks lost.

Awesome that the Pens won. Good for them. Detroit doesn't need another cup.

That's actually what I was thinking too. lol
Sometimes I wonder what's it like to be a Red Wing fan. Consistently finishing top 3 after the regular season, kinda gets predictable.
I guess they just wait for playoffs.

Ludepower 06-13-2009 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6463863)
Wow......... stopped watching hockey after the Canucks lost.

You and all the other bandwagoners did the same thing.:rolleyes:

Playoff hockey is the best....intense game yesterday....Pens had more heart

LOL at the boooing of Bettman and shitty when trohpy celebrations aren't won in your own building

Tim Budong 06-13-2009 12:00 PM

The boooing is always there i thot this series didnt pick up till after the gam5 destruction

SumAznGuy 06-13-2009 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga (Post 6463531)
^ Thank you

Hossa turned down $90+ MILLION in GUARANTEED money for this chance to win the cup.

If anything - people should be feeling bad for him and not the other way around. This isn't a case of a player ditching his former team to sign a huge money contract.

Again, I posted that he is only 30. There is no reason he will not be given another 8-10 year multi million dollar deal. So did he really take a discounted contract to play for the Wings?
If that Oiler deal really was $90M over 10 years, that is an average of $9M per year. So to go from $9M to $7.5M, I don't consider that much of a discount.

With the way the NHL is going and the throught of a lower cap in the near future, signing stars to multi year front heavy contracts will be more of the norm, assuming they decide that those stars are the guys they want.

But all this is based on heresay since no official numbers were given on what the Oilers had offered.

If heresay was 100% true, then Pronger would be a King now.

ChaKo 06-13-2009 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6464237)
Again, I posted that he is only 30. There is no reason he will not be given another 8-10 year multi million dollar deal. So did he really take a discounted contract to play for the Wings?
If that Oiler deal really was $90M over 10 years, that is an average of $9M per year. So to go from $9M to $7.5M, I don't consider that much of a discount.

With the way the NHL is going and the throught of a lower cap in the near future, signing stars to multi year front heavy contracts will be more of the norm, assuming they decide that those stars are the guys they want.

But all this is based on heresay since no official numbers were given on what the Oilers had offered.

If heresay was 100% true, then Pronger would be a King now.

you said it yourself. there is the thought of a lower cap, so if i'm a gm, i'd be less inclined to offer hossa the type of money edmonton offered, especially after his point production dropped significantly since he was with the pens. that is the risk hossa took in not taking the guaranteed long term deal. and 9 million is 20 percent more than 7.5..that's quite a significant amount of change if you ask me. and more like than not, hossa is gunna continue to be a 7 mill player after his performance this playoff season which means he's gunna be taking a hit this coming season and possibly the seasons after.

there's not much we can attribute to hearsay when there's a direct quote from his agent saying he took 85 million less to play for detroit considering these guys are professionals and are always extremely cautious about what they say to the media.

Noir 06-13-2009 06:25 PM

Whatever the hell it is, let Hossa's story be a lesson to Luongo. Karma's a bitch.

He has a stable future here. He could be the next Linden. The only reason why people don't attach themselves to Luongo is his reluctance to commit and his high probability of selling out for an easier route to the Stanley Cup. It's not like the Canucks are a consitently basement team. We're no Detroit but at least we're a legitimate team year in and year out. And we don't tank for a decade to farm drafts.

punkwax 06-13-2009 07:41 PM

Yay Pens!

Lude S 06-14-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6464535)
Whatever the hell it is, let Hossa's story be a lesson to Luongo. Karma's a bitch.

Sorry, but luongo staying here and winning a cup..yeah right:haha: Totally different senerio, Pens made it to finals last year, so their team wasnt all that bad. Canucks on the other hand, didnt get very far....

trancehead 06-14-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6464535)
Whatever the hell it is, let Hossa's story be a lesson to Luongo. Karma's a bitch.

He has a stable future here. He could be the next Linden. The only reason why people don't attach themselves to Luongo is his reluctance to commit and his high probability of selling out for an easier route to the Stanley Cup. It's not like the Canucks are a consitently basement team. We're no Detroit but at least we're a legitimate team year in and year out. And we don't tank for a decade to farm drafts.

+1

If he continues with this bullshit "I want to play in a city that is a cup contender" while doing interviews, ship the captain off before he hits free agency.

Luongo is an elite talent...but may not have the mental capabilities that even Osgood holds. On team1040 I remember them talking about how the Blackhawks got under his skin with the constant crease crashing and Bfygulien's dirty play. I find this to have some truth to it...as we all saw Lu collapse near the end of that Hawks series

Noir 06-14-2009 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Lude S (Post 6465170)
Sorry, but luongo staying here and winning a cup..yeah right:haha: Totally different senerio, Pens made it to finals last year, so their team wasnt all that bad. Canucks on the other hand, didnt get very far....

refer to this:

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6464535)
It's not like the Canucks are a consitently basement team. We're no Detroit but at least we're a legitimate team year in and year out. And we don't tank for a decade to farm drafts.

If by "I want to play in a city that is a cup contender" means:

*** He wants to tag along Detroit (or the like's) winning record.
*** Or he just wants to reap all the benefits of franchises who's tanked a decade long season after season to farm 1st round draft pics...

Well he can go fuck himself and I hope he suffers a Hossa. Seriously, he's a great goalie but he's not "too good" for this team.

MR_BIGGS 06-14-2009 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=89blkcivic;6463863]Wow......... stopped watching hockey after the Canucks lost.

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A lot of people did. I gotta say though - this years playoffs were one of the best I have seen in a long time....lots of series made for great hockey....

Noir 06-14-2009 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=MR_BIGGS;6465264]
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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6463863)
Wow......... stopped watching hockey after the Canucks lost.

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A lot of people did. I gotta say though - this years playoffs were one of the best I have seen in a long time....lots of series made for great hockey....

Werd. It was a series of epic match ups and results.

CAR taking down BOS
WSH bouncing back from NYR
the WSH vs. PIT series
the PIT vs. DET re-match

just freakin' awesome from the bottom up.

Durrann1984 06-14-2009 02:12 PM

ne 1 at lindens autograph signing??

pandalove 06-14-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Durrann1984 (Post 6465400)
ne 1 at lindens autograph signing??

ya man i'm there right now + posting on revscene

Durrann1984 06-14-2009 02:37 PM

^^^ heard the lineup is crazzyy

MR_BIGGS 06-14-2009 02:53 PM

I saw him when the Nike store opened up at Metrotown....It was him and Federov....damn that was a long time ago...he's was awesome..so nice..and personable..i was young though..but still

mickz 06-14-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Durrann1984 (Post 6465400)
ne 1 at lindens autograph signing??

You don't want to know how early I went. Got there and I was about 150th-200th in line before they separated the lines into two, one for people actually wanting door crashers and one for people there to see Trevor.

After they divided the line I was about 50th-75th and by 1pm the lineup already stretched all the way around the building. They kept emphasizing a 1 autograph limit per person but Trevor being a good guy signed two items for many people in front of me and myself.

Anybody else go? I always rock my Linden '96 alternate jersey to his signings, maybe you guys saw me!?

MG1 06-15-2009 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ludepower (Post 6464023)
You and all the other bandwagoners did the same thing.:rolleyes:

How does stop watching hockey after your number one favourite team is out of the playoffs make you a bandwagoner?

That's how much I love the Canucks. I would think that makes me more of a Canucks fan............. any other team doesn't matter. Please don't use the word bandwagoner like it was a cool term or something. Using it at every opportunity.

7seven 06-15-2009 06:24 AM

Lidstrom got speared in the balls by Sharp, had to have surgery on his testicles and only missed 2 games, wow what a warrior. With all the injuries I'm surprised the Wings even made it to game 7, so much for Euros being soft and not playoff warriors huh.

So it was basically:
- Lidstrom, testicle surgery
- Datsyuk, broken foot and charley horse
- Zetterberg, hand injury
- Ericsson, appendix surgery
- Cleary, groin
- Draper, neck and groin
- Kopecky, broken orbital bones
- Rafalski, herniated disc

411ken 06-15-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 89blkcivic (Post 6466413)
How does stop watching hockey after your number one favourite team is out of the playoffs make you a bandwagoner?

That's how much I love the Canucks. I would think that makes me more of a Canucks fan............. any other team doesn't matter. Please don't use the word bandwagoner like it was a cool term or something. Using it at every opportunity.

LOL, I was going to reply similar to this but you beat me to it.


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