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shawn79 06-09-2009 09:27 AM

REPORT: HEATLEY ASKS SENATORS FOR TRADE

shawn79 06-09-2009 09:28 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=281356

invader 06-09-2009 10:24 AM

7.5 mil cap hit for 5 years. wow

Noir 06-09-2009 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by invader (Post 6457908)
7.5 mil cap hit for 5 years. wow

Werd, but it's the final piece the Canucks organization has been missing for years since Naslund's decline (and the Bure years before that); A marquee goal scorer.

And those guys are never gonna come cheaper than $6 mill at least. As it is, we're loaded up on playmakers and grinders.

mickz 06-09-2009 10:45 AM

Dany Heatley's got his summer home in Kelowna as well ;)

Ch28 06-09-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6457916)
Werd, but it's the final piece the Canucks organization has been missing for years since Naslund's decline (and the Bure years before that); A marquee goal scorer.

And those guys are never gonna come cheaper than $6 mill at least. As it is, we're loaded up on playmakers and grinders.

Who would we trade to acquire him?

Sedin/Sedin/Heatley would be a sweet line

Hondaracer 06-09-2009 11:12 AM

would have to give up a bieksa/edler fo sho

Noir 06-09-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6457952)
Who would we trade to acquire him?

Sedin/Sedin/Heatley would be a sweet line

Don't know if it's even economically feasable for the team. Not even gonna act like I know. That's MG's job :D

But this city hungers for a goal scorer once again. (now that we have a goalie)

411ken 06-09-2009 11:12 AM

That would be a sweet line indeed...
Get rid of Sundin salary, Ohlund salary, and we should be able to afford that top line..might have to pick up a cheaper D to replace Ohlund.

Then just see who gels with who as in CoHo, Kes, Burr,Grabs, Bernier

Ch28 06-09-2009 11:21 AM

Who would you guys rather have?

Neidermayers or Heatley?

We can't have em both lol

Noir 06-09-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6457963)
Who would you guys rather have?

Neidermayers or Heatley?

We can't have em both lol

Heatley. I'm satisfied with our defense & goalie.

Tim Budong 06-09-2009 11:41 AM

Neidermyer plz. The guy can move the puck on the back end. Skates better than any one on the back and is faster than alot on the back. He can join the rush too

And to be honest luongo needs extension. I dont see heatley comin here

411ken 06-09-2009 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6457982)
Neidermyer plz. The guy can move the puck on the back end. Skates better than any one on the back and is faster than alot on the back. He can join the rush too

And to be honest luongo needs extension. I dont see heatley comin here

I agree that Luongo needs an extension but the question is, does he want one? we'll find out this season that's for sure.

The only thing scary about Heatley is he doesn't check that much and 7.5m over 5 years is pretty steep. especially if the sedins sign for a long term as well..

d1 06-09-2009 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6457963)
Who would you guys rather have?

Neidermayers or Heatley?

We can't have em both lol

No question, Scott > Heatley. Ottawa would want too much for him.

Hondaracer 06-09-2009 11:55 AM

Actually schneider + bieksa + grabner for heatley may work

But u can't have that contract come with him

7seven 06-09-2009 12:17 PM

Don't forget that next summer, the Canucks will also need new contracts or replacements for Luongo, Kesler, Raymond, Mitchell & Bieksa. Heatley's $7.5 cap hit for another 5 years just doesn't make sense for the Canucks, especially when the cap is expected to decrease after this year and the Sedins need significant raises this summer.

Its all about asset management, I would rather resign the Sedins (hopefully for cap hits between 5 to 6 mil each) than have Heatley at the cost of some good assets (likely a combination of Kesler, Hodgson, Grabner, Raymond, Edler and draft picks).

LOL I'd never figured I would rather have the Sedins over Heatley, but thats the reality of a cap world.

Noir 06-09-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6457994)
The only thing scary about Heatley is he doesn't check that much and 7.5m over 5 years is pretty steep. especially if the sedins sign for a long term as well..

Why would you want that? We have Kesler, Burrows and a shit ton other pluggers that are willing to do that job (checking).

Sure everyone wants a Pavol Datsyuk but we're talking the difference between a 30 goals to 50 goals by being a pure goal scorer. We already have a checker that scores in Kes & Bur. We don't need to load up on just 1 type of player. And these type of players will always come at a tag of $6 mill plus. If we never pay up, we'll never see the likes of one except through draft.

Guys the like of Luongo are worth the $6+ mill. Same for Heatley.

Hondaracer 06-09-2009 01:02 PM

Who's to say heatley can score 35+ goals in the west though

At 7 mill he isn't worth it, no one should be paied more than Lu.

Noir 06-09-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6458083)
Who's to say heatley can score 35+ goals in the west though

At 7 mill he isn't worth it, no one should be paied more than Lu.

Of course there's no guarantees he'll be a 40-50 goal scorer in the west. But your banking the odds on your side though.

And Lu, as good as he is, is not the be-all-end-all solution to the team. Though a great goalie he is, it's been proven that he can't do it all himself. People shouldn't believe the "God" hype that a lot of people place him on.

Hondaracer 06-09-2009 02:17 PM

If you get him locked up long term for under 7 mill a year he is god.

mickz 06-09-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6457994)
The only thing scary about Heatley is he doesn't check that much and 7.5m over 5 years is pretty steep. especially if the sedins sign for a long term as well..

If there are two players to choose from; a goal scorer and a defensive player you always take the scorer.

Anyone can learn to play defense but scoring goals is something you can't teach.

Soundy 06-09-2009 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by d1 (Post 6457997)
No question, Scott > Heatley. Ottawa would want too much for him.

With Heatley's cap hit, Ottawa doesn't have a lot of bargaining room. He wants out badly, too, which means he doesn't want to play there, which further weakens their bargaining position.

murd0c 06-09-2009 04:31 PM

I think the smartest move would be to try to trade up in the daft to go after hodgsons brampton line mate he played so well with (I forget his name) The best direction for the canucks to go right now is to start off young. With all the money Gilles is putting into player devolpment (I don't get why they were not before) the young players are the future of the canucks not trading for someone with a crazy contract. In the cap era young is the way to go.

CRS 06-09-2009 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 6458363)
I think the smartest move would be to try to trade up in the daft to go after hodgsons brampton line mate he played so well with (I forget his name) The best direction for the canucks to go right now is to start off young. With all the money Gilles is putting into player devolpment (I don't get why they were not before) the young players are the future of the canucks not trading for someone with a crazy contract. In the cap era young is the way to go.

Bingo!

Hit it RIGHT ON.

Focus on YOUNG players that may not be impact players right away but will turn out to be superstars.

Ch28 06-09-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 6458363)
I think the smartest move would be to try to trade up in the daft to go after hodgsons brampton line mate he played so well with (I forget his name) The best direction for the canucks to go right now is to start off young. With all the money Gilles is putting into player devolpment (I don't get why they were not before) the young players are the future of the canucks not trading for someone with a crazy contract. In the cap era young is the way to go.

I think you're talking about Matt Duchene and right now he is slated to go in the top 5


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