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Lude S 10-25-2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JKam (Post 6653453)
exactly. No one is saying Luongo sucks. You have to admit he did suck for those first 3 games though.

Luongo is a GREAT goalie but the odd time he slips, he is pretty bad. He hasn't proven, at least to me, why he deserves so much hype (for example the Lu is god type of hype). As a "bandwagoner" I don't see it.

it was a pretty easy game for him tonite. wasnt like he stole the game or made any highlight reel saves. Plain and simple, Edmonton just sucked.

d1 10-25-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 6653488)
wasn't there a whole buncha people ripping raymond, grabner before?

What's your point?

punkwax 10-25-2009 10:33 PM

Good game. Boring at times, but we played well defensively.

Nice to be above .500 and witness Lu taking over the SO record!

GO NUCKS!

ienhz 10-25-2009 10:35 PM

Man Kopitar is on fire right now. Wish we drafted him...
Good thing Gillis was able to salvage a sweet deal out of that Patrick White mess. God, what a fucking atrocious pick that was.

Expresso 10-25-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lude S (Post 6653490)
it was a pretty easy game for him tonite. wasnt like he stole the game or made any highlight reel saves. Plain and simple, Edmonton just sucked.

I thought he played a pretty solid game tonight. It definitely did not seem 'easy'.

Lude S 10-25-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HachiSix (Post 6653554)
I thought he played a pretty solid game tonight. It definitely did not seem 'easy'.

if u call a game like tonite not a easy game, then what do u call those games when a goalie faces 35+ shots, a lot of 2 on 1, or a lot of screen shots? I was at the game and i didnt see any of that and If he cant win us a game like this, then he is garbage.

Edmonton didnt even show up to play. Raycroft could have picked up the win for us easy.

Tim Budong 10-25-2009 11:53 PM

no
more like the top line of penner and hemsky were shut down
this is canucks hockey
and when ur 2nd line beats down everybody by speed, the oil had no chance

silk 10-26-2009 12:18 AM

just checked NHL.com, i thought Ilya Bryzgalov from PHX has 2 SO, he should be the leader.

silk 10-26-2009 12:43 AM

^ Am I wrong ?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/statshome.htm...nav-sts-league

trip 10-26-2009 12:52 AM

technically you are right

but luu is franchise record holder for shutouts now. sorry actually i shouldnt have failed you because the person who posted was vague.

i removed the fail.

BlackZRoadster 10-26-2009 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6653142)
I'd be so fucking embarassed if I was in your shoes :mamoru:

yeh i was kinda embarassed when i heard the line "i play for the detroit red wings" and i was like "....oh..." "whats your name"...OH?! your lilja haha

411ken 10-26-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JKam (Post 6653345)
wow you're still going on about that?

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Originally Posted by Lude S (Post 6653632)
if u call a game like tonite not a easy game, then what do u call those games when a goalie faces 35+ shots, a lot of 2 on 1, or a lot of screen shots? I was at the game and i didnt see any of that and If he cant win us a game like this, then he is garbage.

Edmonton didnt even show up to play. Raycroft could have picked up the win for us easy.

This is why...I just got so annoyed about reading bad stuff about the team WIN or LOSE.....So what if he sucked the first 3 games?? so did Brodeur....he lost 2 straight...did he get benched? lolz..

I will stop with the sarcasm now about this... but ya.. I still think Raycroft should be our #1 goalie... :) bench luongo for having an easy outing out there facing only 27 shots

silk 10-26-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by trip (Post 6653705)
technically you are right

but luu is franchise record holder for shutouts now. sorry actually i shouldnt have failed you because the person who posted was vague.

i removed the fail.

oh yessss..... i didnt realized you guys were talking about franchise.....
so i assumed we are talking about this season :D

Soundy 10-26-2009 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JKam (Post 6653453)
exactly. No one is saying Luongo sucks. You have to admit he did suck for those first 3 games though.

Luongo is a GREAT goalie but the odd time he slips, he is pretty bad. He hasn't proven, at least to me, why he deserves so much hype (for example the Lu is god type of hype). As a "bandwagoner" I don't see it.

Would you say Patrick Roy deserved the hype? Because he was GREAT too, but he also had some of the most spectacular fuck-ups ever seen in the game....

Soundy 10-26-2009 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZRoadster (Post 6653763)
yeh i was kinda embarassed when i heard the line "i play for the detroit red wings" and i was like "....oh..." "whats your name"...OH?! your lilja haha

I expect most players are plenty used to not being recognized outside their own city. Really, how many players faces do we actually see on a regular basis, outside of our own team? 90% of them, all we ever see is a helmet, maybe a cage or a distorted face through a visor... and maybe once every couple of weeks.

spoon.ek9 10-26-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6653919)
Would you say Patrick Roy deserved the hype? Because he was GREAT too, but he also had some of the most spectacular fuck-ups ever seen in the game....

exactly. if you fail to see how elite luongo can be as a goalie, then you shouldn't be passing judgment on any goalies at all. perhaps you'd like cloutier back? hah.

fobulaus 10-26-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ienhz (Post 6653534)
Man Kopitar is on fire right now. Wish we drafted him...
Good thing Gillis was able to salvage a sweet deal out of that Patrick White mess. God, what a fucking atrocious pick that was.

hah I have Kopitar in my pool and hes definately keeping me alive... I have guys like Datsyuk, Clowe, Simon Gagne who are all crazy underachieving right now.. I think like 1G and 5A between the 3 of them..

The Hype 10-26-2009 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6653919)
Would you say Patrick Roy deserved the hype? Because he was GREAT too, but he also had some of the most spectacular fuck-ups ever seen in the game....

Yeah Patrick Roy had his fuckups, but he also has 3 Stanley Cup rings, 3 Conn Smythe trophies, 3 Vezina trophies, and a plethora of NHL goaltending records. Luongo has absolutely nothing. Luongo is a good goalie, yes. But he isn't great. And at the rate he's going, he'll be the best goalie to never win anything. He's the best goaltender the Canucks have ever had, but you can't compare him Roy or Brodeur. Hell, I know I'll get flamed and failed for this but you can't even compare him to my boy Giguere. Did Luongo ever take the team on his back to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals? Did he ever win the Conn Smythe? A Stanley Cup?

Don't get me wrong, I like Roberto...I just don't like how overhyped and overrated he is in this city.

JKam 10-26-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6653919)
Would you say Patrick Roy deserved the hype? Because he was GREAT too, but he also had some of the most spectacular fuck-ups ever seen in the game....

I don't know. I didn't watch him play. I was too young to remember anything from that time.

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Originally Posted by spoon.ctr.ek9 (Post 6653936)
exactly. if you fail to see how elite luongo can be as a goalie, then you shouldn't be passing judgment on any goalies at all. perhaps you'd like cloutier back? hah.

I'm not passing judgement. It's an opinion. It's not like I need a license to give my opinion. For a new fan like myself i'd rather have someone explain to me why Luongo is deserving the godlike hype instead of getting bashed for giving an opinion. From what I can see Kipper is near the same level as Luongo but not one give him godlike status. Kipper has amazing saves and looks pretty solid.

Hondaracer 10-26-2009 11:19 AM

The argument that luongo is overrated because he hasn't won anything is kinda fucking stupid, it takes more than one player to win a cup and the forementioned goalies who won cups and vezinas all had pretty fucking good teams behind them, with Lu in net this team has the best chance it's ever had to win a cup so maybe that's why ppl are so high on him..
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orange7 10-26-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 6654019)
Yeah Patrick Roy had his fuckups, but he also has 3 Stanley Cup rings, 3 Conn Smythe trophies, 3 Vezina trophies, and a plethora of NHL goaltending records. Luongo has absolutely nothing. Luongo is a good goalie, yes. But he isn't great. And at the rate he's going, he'll be the best goalie to never win anything. He's the best goaltender the Canucks have ever had, but you can't compare him Roy or Brodeur. Hell, I know I'll get flamed and failed for this but you can't even compare him to my boy Giguere. Did Luongo ever take the team on his back to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals? Did he ever win the Conn Smythe? A Stanley Cup?

Don't get me wrong, I like Roberto...I just don't like how overhyped and overrated he is in this city.

I like luongo too. I think he is an amazing golie when he's actually in the zone and probably one of the best golies that the canucks have ever had. However, there is just too much hype for him. He's seriously not at a god level yet in my opinion.
It's just funny how he wins a game a everyone forgets about those which he lost. So wouldn't that make him a superb golie instead of a god?? (IMO)

MR_BIGGS 10-26-2009 11:58 AM

Of all the Canuck players Luongo is our best chance at a stanley cup as of right now.

He is the best goalie this franchise has ever seen. He has had his God-mode moments and he is a great goalie. I can see where people are coming from saying that you can't say his name in the same sentences as Broduer and Roy - not until Lu wins a cup or other hardware. That is fair enough. But you can't deny his greatness either. When is career is said and done, than the debate can start.

Who you guys think will win the games tonight..heres my sportsaction picks i think i may go with..

PHO < NYR (I'm iffy on this one)
NYI < MON
MIN < CHI
TOR < ANA

all home teams.

FiveDime 10-26-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 6654019)
Yeah Patrick Roy had his fuckups, but he also has 3 Stanley Cup rings, 3 Conn Smythe trophies, 3 Vezina trophies, and a plethora of NHL goaltending records. Luongo has absolutely nothing. Luongo is a good goalie, yes. But he isn't great. And at the rate he's going, he'll be the best goalie to never win anything. He's the best goaltender the Canucks have ever had, but you can't compare him Roy or Brodeur. Hell, I know I'll get flamed and failed for this but you can't even compare him to my boy Giguere. Did Luongo ever take the team on his back to game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals? Did he ever win the Conn Smythe? A Stanley Cup?

Don't get me wrong, I like Roberto...I just don't like how overhyped and overrated he is in this city.


Give luongo the chance and he will run with it! He has heart and determination, Winning the CUP is his #1 goal.

If the canucks get deep into the play-offs no team will stop LUUUU!!!!!

Gh0stRider 10-26-2009 12:21 PM

The Atlanta Thrashers will be without star forward Ilya Kovalchuk for two-to-four weeks.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=296200

Soundy 10-26-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Hype (Post 6654019)
Yeah Patrick Roy had his fuckups, but he also has 3 Stanley Cup rings,

Four, actually. But don't let accuracy enter into your argument.

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Don't get me wrong, I like Roberto...I just don't like how overhyped and overrated he is in this city.
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6654069)
The argument that luongo is overrated because he hasn't won anything is kinda fucking stupid, it takes more than one player to win a cup and the forementioned goalies who won cups and vezinas all had pretty fucking good teams behind them, with Lu in net this team has the best chance it's ever had to win a cup so maybe that's why ppl are so high on him..

That's kind of the point. People are down on him because of the odd gaffe. Well guess, what, even the best have "the odd gaffe", and the one whom most consider the best goaltender ever, has had by far the oddest. I mean, Roy rarely screwed up, but when he did, it was one for the ages. Does that diminish his standing? No. So should Luongo's brain-farts diminish his? No.

It's got nothing to do with his lack of playoff success so far - as Hondaracer notes, that's the whole team's problem. You can't ever pin that on any one player. Dismissing the guy's talent and skill because he makes the occasional mistake is the thing that's ridiculous, because ALL the greats screw up at one time or another, no matter how good they area.


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