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woob 08-31-2009 05:28 PM

way to use it to its potential

Tim Budong 08-31-2009 06:26 PM

its on his twitter damnit!
hhahaha

d1 08-31-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6571823)
It's not the principal ideal of being strong all around but its not a bad way to go either. I prefer stacking from the frontwards in like DET, PIT, CHI but that's just my "personal" preference.

For some of those teams, you could argue they are stacked front and back.

Detroit: Z, D, Franzen, Filppula but on the back end, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall.
Pitts: Hard for MG to replicate this since they have arguably 2 of the top 3 players in the games.
Chicago: Young guns up front over-achieving for what they are getting paid but a stacked D as well with Campbell, Keith, Seabrook, Barker.

Ch28 08-31-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by d1 (Post 6572079)
For some of those teams, you could argue they are stacked front and back.

Detroit: Z, D, Franzen, Filppula but on the back end, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall.
Pitts: Hard for MG to replicate this since they have arguably 2 of the top 3 players in the games.
Chicago: Young guns up front over-achieving for what they are getting paid but a stacked D as well with Campbell, Keith, Seabrook, Barker.

Not to mention Pitts + Chicago had to suck ass for many seasons just to accumulate the picks + players that make them the team they are now.

Ronin 08-31-2009 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6572121)
Not to mention Pitts + Chicago had to suck ass for many seasons just to accumulate the picks + players that make them the team they are now.

This. The Canucks weren't bad long enough and they weren't bad enough. We've always been competitive.

SumAznGuy 08-31-2009 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 6572145)
This. The Canucks weren't bad long enough and they weren't bad enough. We've always been competitive.

That's the thing with Detroit that everyone has already mentioned. The organization is very top notch. From good drafting/scouting system, player development, and upper management who know how not to over pay players.

For the last few years, Detroit has been reaping the benefits of good players in their prime, and up and coming players who were exceeding what they were getting paid.

winson604 08-31-2009 10:22 PM

Well I guess TSN is reporting it now as being close although nothing new

LUONGO CLOSE TO SIGNING CONTRACT EXTENSION WITH CANUCKS

It appears that Roberto Luongo will be between the pipes in Vancouver for the foreseeable future, as the all-star netminder is on the verge of signing a contract extension with the Canucks.

The news isn't expected to be announced until later in the week.

"Negotiations are on-going and we are confident we will reach an agreement before training camp," a Canuck official said Monday in an email to The Canadian Press.

Luongo had originally set a deadline of Sept. 13 to complete the deal.

"We're trying to get it done before (training) camp," Luongo said last week in Calgary during the National Team Orientation camp. "If it doesn't happen before camp, I will not be negotiating during the season. I don't want to have that distraction," he said.

Luongo was entering the final year of a four-year, $27 million contract. He will make $7.5-million for the 2009-10 season.

Last season, the all-star goalie went 33-13-7 with nine shutouts and a GAA of 2.34 for the Canucks. He is one of the top candidates to be selected to play for Canada at the upcoming Olympics.

He was drafted by the New York Islanders in the first round (4th overall) of the 1997 draft. He will be entering his 10th NHL season.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=289486

AzNightmare 08-31-2009 10:59 PM

Getting annoyed. All these posts are just re-stating what we already know.
He's getting close to signing.

Update me when he's been officially signed with the contract terms.

Noir 08-31-2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1 (Post 6572079)
For some of those teams, you could argue they are stacked front and back.

Detroit: Z, D, Franzen, Filppula but on the back end, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall.
Pitts: Hard for MG to replicate this since they have arguably 2 of the top 3 players in the games.
Chicago: Young guns up front over-achieving for what they are getting paid but a stacked D as well with Campbell, Keith, Seabrook, Barker.

Yes you are right in that all teams are formidable all areas. But I think you misunderstood on what I meant of being built Forward-In. What I meant is that the heirarchy of talent/skill IMO does go from Forward back. It didn't mean stacking to one side only.

DET: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen et al.
(supported by) ---> Lidstrom, Rafalski et al.
(supported by) ---> Chris Osgood

PIT: Crosby, Malkin, Staal
(supported by) ---> Gonchar et al.
(supported by ---> Fleury

CHI: Kane, Toews, Havlat/Hossa et al.
(supported by) ---> Seabrook, Campbell et al.
(supported by) ---> Khabibulin/Huet

It just seems to me that gone are the days of the ultra-defensive teams that used to rule the NHL. I understood why Nonis did this approach at the time, but the league has long since passed those times. Anyways, that's just the observation that has me partial to offensive minded teams over defensive minded ones.

Noir 08-31-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6572121)
Not to mention Pitts + Chicago had to suck ass for many seasons just to accumulate the picks + players that make them the team they are now.

Yeah but having mentioned that, I have long since disagreed with how the current setup of leagues almost rewarding bottom dwelling.

fobulaus 08-31-2009 11:31 PM

Anyone else thinks that Tampa bay is going to be the next Pittsburgh?

Seriously, Lecavalier, Ryan Malone, Steven Stamkos, Martin St. Louis, and now Alex Tanguay!?!? In the back they have guys like Ohlund, Krajicek, Meszaros and Victor Hedman.... The only thing shitty is their goaltending...

Harvey Specter 09-01-2009 12:42 AM

I don't think the Lighting will become the next Pens with Rick Tocchet behind the bench.

goo3 09-01-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 6571890)
This seems to go against Gillis' philosophy of not signing ridiculous long-term contracts (like when the Sedins were signed) regardless of offsetting the cap hit. Personally, as long as they're under 35, I'm in favor of doing long term deals since it gives teams more wiggle room under the salary cap.

That's what he said.. what he meant, "I'm not giving the Sedins a 10 yr contract."

Harvey Specter 09-01-2009 01:23 AM

Canucks Vs. Stars, game 6 from 2007 is on right now on the NHL Network.

Ch28 09-01-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6572610)
Yeah but having mentioned that, I have long since disagreed with how the current setup of leagues almost rewarding bottom dwelling.

I wouldn't mind having a draft lottery every year. It makes it a little interesting and it prevents mediocre teams from tanking a season in hopes of getting a great pick.

CRS 09-01-2009 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6572949)
I wouldn't mind having a draft lottery every year. It makes it a little interesting and it prevents mediocre teams from tanking a season in hopes of getting a great pick.

But it would also prevent crappy teams from getting better.

SumAznGuy 09-01-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6572958)
But it would also prevent crappy teams from getting better.

What's funny about this statement is that Pittsburge sucked for many years before they drafted Lemiux and Jgar and then they were powerful for a while before they sucked again. Now that they have Crosby and Malkin, I wonder if history will repeat itself.

NYI was very strong back in the late 70's and early 80's but have been very mediocore at best since.

Noir 09-01-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CRS (Post 6572958)
But it would also prevent crappy teams from getting better.

Being better should be the result of a franchises's ability to scout, it's organizational philosophy, it's refined system, and the regimen they develop their players with.

Not by bottom dwelling to manipulate your chances to stock up on high-draft picks. <--- I still haven't come to terms with this.

InvisibleSoul 09-01-2009 10:59 AM

Wow, amazing... nobody has reported this yet?

We signed Nathan McIver again... so we just added another D-Man to the stable.

7seven 09-01-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by InvisibleSoul (Post 6573088)
Wow, amazing... nobody has reported this yet?

We signed Nathan McIver again... so we just added another D-Man to the stable.

For the Moose, they need a couple D men signed. Right now the Moose D is looking like Baumgartner, Rome, Nycholat, McIver, Ellington, Oberg and Funk. Oh and possibly Lukowich if the Nucks waive him down to the AHL. Oberg and Ellington being AHL rookies probably won't play much and the Moose lost Rahimi, Fistric and Fortunus.

nsmb 09-01-2009 01:39 PM

wtf was there no press conference?

carisear 09-01-2009 04:17 PM

perhaps not allowing a team to get two #1 draft picks in a row would help ... the way the draft is setup right now isn't bad .. but everyone can see that having a shitty team for a couple of years generally means a stanley cup 5 years down the road ...

jlo mein 09-01-2009 04:33 PM

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Among the approximately 200 wedding guests were Canucks forward Daniel Sedin, Peter Forsberg, Joe Nieuwendyk Marius Czerkawski and Tie Domi, who was Sundin’s longtime bodyguard with the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Weird that Daniel would be there but not Henrik...

fobulaus 09-01-2009 05:07 PM

haha, Sundin's bodyguard? That guy is like 6'4..

Hondaracer 09-01-2009 05:19 PM

u mean 5'4? lol


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