I don't take the following but will be - An excellent multi-vitamin (read RRxstar's post on it)

And BCAAs.

I haven't used a PWO in a while. Usually, two cups of black coffee does the trick for me.

what do you u guys drink bcaas with? how do they mix?

I take it by the spoon, then wash it down with water.
It tastes really bitter.

All you need is protein, pre workout, multi vitamin and fish oil.. everything else is a waste of money.

More like all you need is food and the rest of it is a waste of money

Fish oil and vitamins would be useful if you're barely eating fruits or veggies.. Pre workout gets you going if you're tired, when you're feeling good it doesn't do much

And as for protein I don't see how you wouldn't get enough anyways
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Protein, creatine, and a good diet. Walk into a supplement store and the sales rep will try to jam all sorts of crap down your throat. Lots of supplements are useless, and some may help but the cost isn't worth the benefit. Don't buy into that shit. What works is generally what's been around for a long time.

do weightlifting shoes make that big of a difference? never tried them but for me, converse>no shoes>all others

Probably not worth the money. Anything with a flat, thin sole is fine..like your Converses.

tried my friends on, and they are 100% worth it. if you are serious about power/olympic lifting that is

x 100000

Creatine is the only supplement that works, it is not a waste of money.

Sorry. I used to take creatine and it did work. But, please elaborate. What is a pct? :concentrate:

They work... for "weight lifting" ie Olympic lifts. Also maybe ok for squats. But, otherwise not necessary.

Hahahahahahahha
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Did some googling. I think I now get the joke. :badpokerface:


I subscribe to this guy's youtube channel:
What a beast.

Anyone else recommend some good channels?

did some reverse band deadlifts

480 x 3
480 reverse band deadlift - YouTube

and 500 x 1

500 reverse band deadlift - YouTube

Well for creatine, there are responders and nonresponders, some people benefit greatly from it while some don't benefit as much... It's cus some guys naturally have high PCR levels so it won't make much of a difference

And I wouldn't necessarily say protein is useless... For some of us guys who can't afford to get a truckload of meat, protein will help with meeting the protein requirements.

Same with creatine, there will be days when you don't feel like cooking full meals, and this is when the supplements come in handy.

imo: carb loading, creatine, whey protein, fish oil, multivitamins are very useful if you are engaged in exercise that puts a heavy demand on your body's substrate supply

hanhchampion, chris jones, elliot hulse, chris lavado, matt ogus...hodgetwins, frank yang :troll:

believe it or not, when frank yang is actually serious, he can give some pretty good advice that I don't see much of the other fitness gurus giving and just from the progress he's been making, you can tell it works.

bigjfitness, andrewvu, roughneckasian (tuan tran)

The channels I learn the most from: supertraining06, donnie thompson, sanfranciscocrossfit (mobility stuff) and clintdarden.

I also follow all the bro fitness channels that've already been listed.

Tuan tran is a beast hands down. Probably one of the strongest guys on youtube, pound for pound.
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He's a beast no doubt, but strongest on youtube... not even close. There are some mind blowingly strong people on there.

I've also been watching Alexander Kang. Pretty strong powerlifter for a 147 lb guy
You can see him wandering around in the background of some of Frank Yang's videos

And also, Strongman Zack

Ya, I've known of Frank Yang since the early days of Xanga hahaha. Does some pretty stupid shit, but some of his advice is good.

Found this pretty useful to gauge roughly where I am in each major exercise

Weightlifting Performance Standards