We need a new team

edit: holy shit i'm such a pessimist LOL

95% of the regular posters in this thread are as well so you'll fit right in. :pokerface:

So we officially have nothing to show for Jason Garrison now. Thanks Jim.

^$4 million in cap space spent on sbisa!

Woah his cap hit is only 3.6mil. Calm down man.

Still boggles my mind how anyone would think that extra $1M for Garrison is not worth it over Sbisa...Feels like Benning was trying too hard to put his stamp on this team.

Hated the Garrison trade then, still hate the the trade now.
Got to stop dumping players that publicly say they WANTED to be here. It's so bad for PR and for the team morale. No one will want to come to Vancouver anymore...

sean avery being sean avery...


A Former Below-Average NHL Player?s Harassing The Homeless On Snapchat

Saw that Avery thing the other day on Facebook... Don't even know where to start, guy is a real life actual completely reprehensible scumbag...

He really knows how to set the bar at its absolute lowest and then some. Not even one single redeeming quality.

Great news

Canucks sign Markstrom to three-year extension - Vancouver Canucks - News

Excellent. Good cap price as well. Once Miller is off the books, it will save a ton of money have Markstrom and Demko as our goaltending tandem. Money that can be spent elsewhere :)

Benning's learning how to sign good deals, now he just needs to learn how to make good trades lol

minus the Eriksson contract (which i guess is a necessary evil) he's been signing some decent contracts lately

not bad benning, not bad. almost a 7.6mil cap hit for our goalies this year, to what will probably be 5mil after a backup is signed for next year. combine those savings with burrows leaving and that amount alone should almost cover the raises for hutton, horvat, gudbranson and tryamkin

$3.67M is firmly in 1A/1B territory, which is where Markstrom currently is. Good deal if he takes another step this year, okay deal if he doesn't.

I'm just curious (i.e. I'm genuinely interested, not being a dick) but what do you think a good trade record (%) is? I ask because it's very rare for a trade that results in a win-win for both teams (Schaefer for Salo comes to mind).

I'm not going to pretend I know every single trade JB has done while with the Canucks, but it feels like he's at 50/50 to me at least.

trade record % isn't exactly the best way to calculate his abilities because win/lose on trade is subjective
it's more of what trades did he make/not make based on the franchise's situation

some examples of his failures in the trade market: pissing away late picks (Kass + picks for Prust), trading for players supposedly ahead of the learning curve (ie. Forsling for Clendening), (Shinkaruk for Granlund), NOT trading Vrbata and Hamhuis for piss all at the deadline

in your opinion, what trade has he won?
For me its the acquisition of Baertschi, Pedan and getting rid of Bieksa. The rest are either shit or still to be determined

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History Of Canucks GM Jim Benning's Trades, Signings, Draft Picks & More - Nucks Misconduct

Here is a list of trades Jim Benning has completed up until February 2016, according to NucksMisconduct. Lets rate them either Good/Average/Bad

June 27, 2014: Traded Jason Garrison and Jeff Costello to the Tampa Bay Lightning for a second round pick in the 2014 Draft Bad

June 27, 2014: Traded the 2014 3rd round pick to the New York Rangers for Derek Dorsett. Average

June 27, 2014: Traded Ryan Kesler and a 2015 3rd round pick to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Luca Sbisa, Nick Bonino and 1st and 3rd round picks in the 2014 Draft. Good

June 28, 2014: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2014 to the Los Angeles Kings for Linden Vey. Bad

November 20, 2014: Traded Kellan Lain to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Will Acton. Average

November 25, 2014: Traded Alexandre Mallet and a 3rd round pick in 2016 to the New York Islanders in exchange for Andrey Pedan. Average

January 29, 2015: Traded Gustav Forsling to the Chicago Blackhawks for Adam Clendening. Bad

March 2, 2015: Traded a 2nd round pick in 2015 to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Sven Baertschi. Average

March 2, 2015: Traded Dustin Jeffrey to the New York Islanders in exchange for Cory Conacher. Average

June 27, 2015: Traded Eddie Lack to the Carolina Hurricanes for a 3rd and 7th round pick in the 2015 Entry Draft. Average

June 27, 2015: Traded Patrick McNally to the San Jose Sharks in exchange for a 7th round pick in 2015. Average

June 30, 2015: Traded Kevin Bieksa to the Anaheim Ducks for a 2nd round pick in 2016. Average

July 1, 2015: Traded Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick in 2016 to the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for Brandon Prust. Bad

July 28, 2015: Traded Nick Bonino, Adam Clendening and a 2nd round pick in 2016 to the Pittsburgh Penguins for Brandon Sutter and a conditional 3rd round pick in 2016. Bad

January 8, 2016: Traded Nicklas Jensen and a 7th round pick in 2017 to the New York Rangers for Emerson Etem. Average

February 22, 2016: Trades Hunter Shinkaruk to the Calgary Flames in exchange for Markus Granlund. Average

February 24, 2016: Canucks trade 5th pick in 2017 Draft to the Edmonton Oilers for D Philip Larsen. Average

17 trades on the list. I rated 5 of the trades as bad deals, but I only rated 1 of them good. That means I rated 11 of the trades as average, or I just don't know cause it is too early to say (like in the case of the Pedan or Granlund deals).

Not sure if I'd call it harassing. Who knows if he gave the homeless guys some money afterwards. He seems incredibly smart with business after his hockey career. Seems like a stunt its to drum up publicity.

Benning has shit asset management skills -- his trades are a clear indication. However we don't know how much of his hand is being forced by the owners into making bad trades to win now rather than do a full rebuild.

Benning is a terrific scout who has drafted tremendously well for the Canucks.

List of players Benning has drafted have already played in the NHL or destined to play in the NHL:

Thatcher Demko (possible franchise goalie) 2ND ROUND
Jake Virtanen 1ST ROUND
Bo Horvat 1ST ROUND
Nikita Tryamkin 3RD ROUND
Jared McCann 1ST ROUND
Brad Boeser 1ST ROUND

Keep in mind this is in only TWO drafts (2014 & 2015). Current Gillis draft picks on this team? None.

^From what I understand, GMs are only responsible for the first round. It is usually the head scout that makes the picks after round 1. With that being said, he is pretty good with first round selections. Boeser looks really good. I think SHinkaruk was before Benning.

You're right Shinkaruk was a Gillis pick.

Yeah Boeser looks promising, scoring leader in his freshman year.

Yes most GM's only pick the first round but Jim Dim is a scout and I'm sure he has a voice in every pick in the last 3 drafts

also bo was gillis pick as well!

uhh what?
horvat hutton grenier and gaunce are all gillis picks that played for the team last year. rodin is also and will be on the team in october
cassels and subban have a chance in the next couple
other gillis picks in the nhl or played a good amount of games: hodgson, connauton, shinkaruk, schroeder, corrado, jensen

6 drafts but keep in mind this was a time with multiple second round appearences and a finals appearance so high picks were traded away at the deadline and quality of picks were worse 6th overall comapred to 29th

Lol