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6o4__boi 06-29-2016 01:10 PM

has a sign and trade ever happened in the nhl?

it's been a while since a draft and trade happened iirc but i don't recall a sign and trade ever happening

if that happens today...that would just break the internet

originalhypa 06-29-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8767958)
Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

While I would love to see him move to a real hockey market, his deal is sweet in Florida, only because it doesn't have a state income tax. The same deal in Toronto would cost him a fortune in income taxes and cost the team a fortune in foreign exchange.

So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

68style 06-29-2016 01:20 PM

Anyone else enjoying watching all their friends who are Habs fans lose their collective minds right now? :Popcorn

Ch28 06-29-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8767956)
anthony stewart claiming subban was traded because he was black

Wouldn't be surprised. French people aren't known to be the friendliest towards those that aren't French.

highfive 06-29-2016 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8767958)
Watch the Stamko's deal is a sign and trade to blow everyone out of the water lol

^but stamkos signed for much less than what he would've gotten on the market? Why would tampa do that?

Yeah, the hall trade makes the possibility of trading Sbisa for someone possible...

6o4__boi 06-29-2016 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8767972)
Anyone else enjoying watching all their friends who are Habs fans lose their collective minds right now? :Popcorn

https://www.reddit.com/r/Habs/commen...ille_for_shea/

similar reactions on my fb feed...lots of em really got caught by surprise

Liquid_o2 06-29-2016 01:24 PM

I just realized that Weber has 10 more years on his contract. Subbans contract runs until he is 33 I believe. Montreal really fucked up.

UFO 06-29-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8767970)
So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

Last 5 years they've missed the playoffs twice. But also been to scf once and 2 conference finals. And Tampa is a sick place to chill. Oh the toils of stamkos lol

highfive 06-29-2016 01:29 PM

Quote:

Jonathan Toews @JonathanToews

Hey Webs good luck in Montreal thanks for leaving our division! #relief
hahaa aside from this contract, i think Montreal won the trade with Weber.

Bouncing Bettys 06-29-2016 01:33 PM

At least I won't be missing much on July 1st when I spend the Canada Day weekend on a secluded island with no cell service.

Ch28 06-29-2016 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 8767977)
I just realized that Weber has 10 more years on his contract. Subbans contract runs until he is 33 I believe. Montreal really fucked up.

Sekeres was saying on TEAM 1040 that Weber has to play until he's 39 or there will be a cap penalty to the team :drunk:

subordinate 06-29-2016 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 8767926)
Playnow has decent payout 1.76x that Lucic will get the biggest FA deal out of Okposo, Eriksson, Backes and Boedker

https://www.playnow.com/sports/hocke...f-1019208.html

Good play. Thanks.

pastarocket 06-29-2016 01:49 PM

This Subban and Weber trade does not help Montreal
In the long term to be a better team. People are 100 percent correct in saying that Weber has lost a step. You can argue that Roman Jossi is playing better than Shea. Weber's play is in decline. Nashville gets a dynamic younger player with a shorter term contract in PK.

UFO 06-29-2016 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8767984)
Sekeres was saying on TEAM 1040 that Weber has to play until he's 39 or there will be a cap penalty to the team :drunk:

They could just trade his 'retired' rights to Arizona at that time

Liquid_o2 06-29-2016 01:52 PM

This Gudbranson trade isn't looking too bad anymore. McCann and a 2nd and 4th round pick? Could have been much worse.

Verdasco 06-29-2016 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8767970)
While I would love to see him move to a real hockey market, his deal is sweet in Florida, only because it doesn't have a state income tax. The same deal in Toronto would cost him a fortune in income taxes and cost the team a fortune in foreign exchange.

So sad that one of our greatest Canadian hockey stars is toiling in fucking Tampa Bay.....

you kidding me? he has better chance in Tampa with Steve Yzerman than fucking toronto of all places

I say kudos for staying, hope he wins a cup

Eastwood 06-29-2016 02:01 PM

Unreal how stupid Edmonton is... Promise their fans change so they trade away a top 5 forward in the league.

originalhypa 06-29-2016 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8767992)
you kidding me? he has better chance in Tampa with Steve Yzerman than fucking toronto of all places

Tampa has made it to the semi finals twice in the last 5 years, and made it to the finals once. Prior to 2011, they did nothing. Absolutely nothing!

A team with that much firepower that has that many chances and can't close the deal is a team that is lacking something very important. The good thing is that they aren't betting it all on one or two players, like Ovi and the Caps, or Toews/Kane in Chicago.

Don't discount Toronto either. I despise the Leafs, but if they're the team that's going to bring the cup back to Canada, then I'm all for it.


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I say kudos for staying, hope he wins a cup
He's only 26, and is surrounded by a strong group of young players. I enjoyed watching the Lightning in the playoffs, but the question comes down to whether or not he is able to fill the role the team needs to win the cup.

Crosby showed this year why he is the best player on the ice. He was incredibly unselfish in his play, as every decision seemed to be what was best for the team. The Sharks could put someone on his ass, and he would still be able to make a play. Can Stamkos be that player?

His playoff history:
2013, 18 games played, 13 points, -5
2014, 4 games played, 4 points, +1
2015, 26 games played, 18 points, +2
2016, 1 game played, 1 point, -1

Maybe the Leafs are better off going for Tavares?

HonestTea 06-29-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 8767926)
Playnow has decent payout 1.76x that Lucic will get the biggest FA deal out of Okposo, Eriksson, Backes and Boedker

https://www.playnow.com/sports/hocke...f-1019208.html

Bet's been removed I think? Can't find it

slicrick 06-29-2016 02:25 PM

Weber>Subban IMO

Weber's contract is going to hurt in the later years of it though. Not a huge PK fan but him and Josi could be a great pairing that should be very exciting to watch.

originalhypa 06-29-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8767978)
Last 5 years they've missed the playoffs twice. But also been to scf once and 2 conference finals. And Tampa is a sick place to chill. Oh the toils of stamkos lol

I think I'm just emotional about this.
I was hoping to see him in a Canadian jersey, preferably with a western team so I could watch him with, or against the Canucks.

I was secretly hoping Benning would make something happen for him.
I was openly hoping that Subban would join the Canucks to play with his little brother.
I am still hopeful that Lucic will sign with the Canucks.

Not much more to look forward to if that doesn't happen.
:okay:

Armind 06-29-2016 02:31 PM

We'll just snooze away on July 1st like usual lol. ResidentSleeper

murd0c 06-29-2016 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eastwood (Post 8767995)
Unreal how stupid Edmonton is... Promise their fans change so they trade away a top 5 forward in the league.

They didn't a good younger dman and that's what they got. I don't think its a stupid move, yes Hall was one of Edmontons top players but with McJesus and the new Fin ontop of all the other firepower they have it was the smart move to make and they still have lots of assets to move.

7seven 06-29-2016 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestTea (Post 8768000)
Bet's been removed I think? Can't find it

They must have just removed it, I think subordinate got on the bet here too.


Moj was on the radio earlier saying from the players he has talked to they all described the Montreal dressing room as dysfunctional, with one player strongly suggesting it was because of Subban.

I've heard similar too from guys I know, except they used much harsher words lol

pastarocket 06-29-2016 02:59 PM

Hall was quoted by the TSN hockey panel as saying that he is a "proud person. This trade is an indictment on me as a player. I am very motivated as a player now"

-sounds like Hall wants to light up the Oilers the next time Jersey plays that team. :lawl:


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