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TjAlmeida 06-29-2016 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Armind (Post 8768006)
We'll just snooze away on July 1st like usual lol. ResidentSleeper

Would rather the team sit back then over pay for lucic or eriksson..

Also, not 100% on this but seems if Weber retires before his contract ends the penalties go to Nashville not Montreal.

Hondaracer 06-29-2016 03:12 PM

May have been said already but the price paid for Guddy seems pretty good now.

Ch28 06-29-2016 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8768019)
Hall was quoted by the TSN hockey panel as saying that he is a "proud person. This trade is an indictment on me as a player. I am very motivated as a player now"

-sounds like Hall wants to light up the Oilers the next time Jersey plays that team. :lawl:

Good.

This is the second time that Chiarelli has traded a high profile player for scraps. Hall is a top 5 LW in the NHL, and to only get Larsson back is an absolute ripoff

murd0c 06-29-2016 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8768031)
Good.

This is the second time that Chiarelli has traded a high profile player for scraps. Hall is a top 5 LW in the NHL, and to only get Larsson back is an absolute ripoff

the funny part about that is both of the players were drafted 1 and 2 the same year and it was the Taylor vs Tyler debate of who should of went first overall

Liquid_o2 06-29-2016 03:29 PM

Obviously Chiarelli believes neither should have been.

Spoon 06-29-2016 03:31 PM

That $10 Million donation to Montreal Children's Hospital. :okay:
Spoiler!

pastarocket 06-29-2016 03:53 PM

-good article about the Subban, Weber trade and a comparison of both players.
:thumbsup:

If you use the analytics chart in the article to compare Subban's performance with Weber's play, PK is clearly the better player.

Why the P.K. Subban trade may be the worst in Canadiens history - Sportsnet.ca

Weber paired with Andrei Markov is a disastrous d-men pairing. :lawl:

subordinate 06-29-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8768038)
That $10 Million donation to Montreal Children's Hospital. :okay:
Spoiler!

Wonder if he regrets that lol. :drunk:

Liquid_o2 06-29-2016 04:02 PM

Someone edited Marc Bergiven's Wiki page.

"Marc Bergevin is a retired Canadian professional hockey defenceman and soon to be ex-general manager of the Montreal Canadiens of the National Hockey League."

Hondaracer 06-29-2016 04:04 PM

Montreal had a guy in PK who embraced the community, learned and spoke good French, and wanted to be a long time hab and was on his way to be one of the all-times of the modern era

They trade that for a guy who doesn't know French, who is a "small town guy" and shrinks/shys away from the lime light.

He may have been bad in the locker room but habs management/coaching seem to be out to lunch

pastarocket 06-29-2016 04:11 PM

If the Habs start next season on a losing note, Bergevin and coach Therrien's jobs are on the line. If this storied franchise wants to be a contender again, these two guys need to be let go. :gtfo:

JesseBlue 06-29-2016 04:14 PM

i like both of them to stay in montreal, thank you very much

Ch28 06-29-2016 04:22 PM

Habs management has always been out to lunch. Their preferential treatment and want for French players/coaches over better non-French equivalents has been going on forever.

7seven 06-29-2016 04:33 PM

more info on the off ice issues with Subban, issues with teammates, management and not acting professionally Marinaro: Habs fans livid over Subban trade - Audio - TSN

The real winner here is the NHL with the number of Oilers and Canadiens fans that will now need to get new jerseys with Subban and Hall gone lol

Eastwood 06-29-2016 04:39 PM

The season hasn't even started and Canadian teams are already worse off... Ship PK out of Canada... Ship Hall out of Canada... What the FUCK!

Ch28 06-29-2016 05:37 PM


Obsideon 06-29-2016 05:42 PM

Weird, I guess I'm the minority. I actually feel that this PK/Shea trade isn't as bad as everyone keeps saying it is.
The way the Habs community is reacting it almost sounds like they got Yannick Weber instead.

PK Subban is a great defenseman but he frequently makes questionable plays in the defensive zone. He's always trying to go for the big goal or highlight play. There's a reason Team Canada left him off the team. His $9 million extension kicks in next year paying him $1.2m MORE than Weber per year cap.

Shea is bonafide stud. He's 3 years older but I feel that his physical size is an advantage for longevity as he doesn't rely on explosive speed or athleticism to be good. Hits like a mack truck, shies from the spotlight yet still lead the league in goals.

Jmac 06-29-2016 05:44 PM

It's not a bad trade. Oh noes, we got the biggest, baddest dman in the league who's an annual Norris finalist.

punkwax 06-29-2016 05:48 PM

^ I'm with you both.

Analytics aren't everything. Lose an alleged diva and bring in a character pro like Weber for less = win IMO. It could be considered addition by subtraction and they're gaining one hell of a player to boot.

The guy is so hard to play against that Toews publicly announced he's happy that Shea is out of the division. That says a lot if you ask me.

Obsideon 06-29-2016 05:50 PM

That's not even including the "off-ice" points.
Shea is a consummate professional and true leader. Brought his team to within 1 win of the WCF in a small market team.
Meanwhile in Montreal...
Anyways, gonna be weird seeing them in different jersey colours that's for sure.

pastarocket 06-29-2016 07:23 PM

Gudbranson arrives in Vancouver. He said that Lu spoke to him quite a bit about our beautiful city. :considered:


mickz 06-29-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabatron (Post 8767848)
I wish more GMs did the offer sheet route ie JB I mean yah we would lose some picks but if that means picking up a stud dman or forward I am all for it!

Offer sheets are one of the worst ways to get players. You need to overpay otherwise the original team will match (ex. Dustin Penner).

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Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 8767900)
Chiarelli has now traded the top 2 picks from the 2010 draft, Hall and Seguin

The first 6 players in that draft have been traded as well!

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Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 8767911)
Wow. So Oilers ended up trading the player that they shouldn't have gotten rid of. Hall was probably their best forward aside from McDavid. RNH should have been shipped off instead.

I guess with Puljujarvi coming in, they felt that a winger was expendable.

Hall yielded them the biggest return. RNH and the rest of the available forwards aren't worth much right now.

CRS 06-29-2016 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mickz (Post 8768114)
Offer sheets are one of the worst ways to get players. You need to overpay otherwise the original team will match (ex. Dustin Penner).

Not if they're up against a cap and are strapped in that capacity.

Devastator 06-29-2016 09:23 PM

Tampa Bay is a perfect example of potentially getting offer sheets on their players. With stammer signed to a big contract it'll be hard for them re-sign bishop, hedman, Johnson, kucherov, other up and coming young players.

OGCStrike 06-29-2016 09:39 PM

basically today in a nutshell :joy:


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