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Trump posting constantly, JD Vance on his way to Utah, flags half masting, moments of silence in senate... Where was any of this when the Minnesota poiticians, ie: actual public servants like them, not some shock jock podcast host adding zero/zilch to society, got murdered? Trump didn't even go to their funeral. |
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I wouldn't expect too much logical thinking from someone who thinks "India is going to overtake the USA" and that because "Trump wasn't seen for a couple of days, he was dead and this is a cover up". Typical knuckle-dragging liberal arts major. :lol |
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The hardcore lefties who still condone or worse, justifying this shooting is really beyond me. It’s just absolutely disgusting. I can’t even do that to my absolute most hated person in the world. Someone was brutally shot and killed for speaking what he believes. Regardless whether you agree with him or not, he’s a father, a husband, a son and a friend to some. It’s nothing short of evil to not feel sad about what happened. And I thought liberalism was about acceptance and compassion. You guys are truly the example of “you either die as a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” |
It’s all about acceptance until you think differently from them |
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It's normal to have sympathy for someone you know nothing about, that is a normal, compassionate thing to do. If you don't know anything about this guy, and the hate he has spewed for years, then sure, go light a candle for him. He was a father. If you do know what he was about, and still think he was a good person because of it, well that says more about you than I want to know. Also I think it's normal to hate someone for their actions, like nazis, pedophiles, rapists, people who take great effort to spread racism, bigotry, misogyny, and hatred in their community. However I think it's NOT normal to hate someone for their skin colour, gender, religion, sexuality, etc. Just IMO And anyway, HE is the one who justified this shooting, not anyone here. He literally said it himself - shootings are just part of living in a country with gun rights. He wanted the gun rights, and he acknowledged what came with it, and there you go. From his mouth to God's ear. And btw literally as he was being shot, so were kids at a school in Colorado, due in part because of what he dedicated his life to. Yet here you are arguing with imaginary "hardcore lefties" |
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This guy literally said he had no empathy for shooting victims. Right now I am thinking EXACTLY the same as him. |
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He supported the second amendment. The reason behind second amendment is to ensure that there is always a last line of defense against the very thing American’s founding fathers wage a war to fight for. Do I agree with that given today’s environment? No. But I get where he gets his ideas and I agree to disagree. Just because he supports a perspective of gun rights that you don’t agree with, doesn’t mean that such horrendous act could be justified. You suggested that he asked for it, or as hobz put it, karma. WTF does it have to do given the context?! Even if today something happens to a random dude or a politician I don’t agree with to death, I’d at least have the decency of saying RIP and/or my thoughts go out to the family. Libtards are only compassionate when people share their values. If that’s how far their compassion goes, they should really stop pretending to be the side of caring. Because that’s fucking disgusting. |
Yawn, what do you do all the other days dude? Do you only log in when something major happens to yell at everyone like they’re single minded when maybe 1 or 2 people here match the energy you’re throwing out? I mean if you hate everyone here so much why bother? |
Edit: 68 is right, there's no point. No amount of context or explanation is going to help here. Also if someone who calls people "libtards" thinks poorly of you, you are probably considered to be a good person by everyone else in general. |
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The white house just released an AI video for trump speaking in the oval about kirk. |
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check...205500283.html We are merely showing compassion for his perspective |
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Charlie Kirk said that if he had a 10 year daughter who was raped he would make her have that child. I think that's vile but I also think he's entitled to his opinion on that - it's his own child and it's not my place to dictate to him how he raises his family. He said he thinks gun deaths are an acceptable price to pay for his right to bear arms. I also think that's vile but I also think he's entitled to his own opinion. However he said that parents of transgender kids should be thrown in prison and he encouraged violence against them to his followers. He said that gay people are disease, he encouraged and funded an overthrow of a fair election, he said black women were too dumb and that white women should get their jobs, he said Jews were ruining America, he actively doxxed college professors he disagreed with and encouraged his followers to target them etc. I'm happy to debate the former, not the latter. Your private opinions - the ones that don't affect others are yours. Your public opinions, the ones that cause harm to others, the ones where you encourage your followers to hurt people, the ones where you celebrate violence? Nah, go fuck yourself and enjoy burning in hell. |
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Most sane people on both sides of the political spectrum likely agree that the killing was not justified, regardless if you support the 2nd amendment or not. However what Kirk has said where gun deaths are justified and rational, means that if you DON'T feel it is justified, then you disagree with his views and have to admit how fucked up an idea it would be to believe that. If you do agree with his views and support what he says, then you can't also say that his death is not justified, otherwise you are the hypocrite. Ultimately, the death is tragic and I don't feel it is justified regardless of beliefs. But I also think his views on gun deaths are fucked up and think he's a bad person to be promoting those ideas. I can hold both views with integrity. The same cannot be said for those who espouse his views on gun deaths but in the same breath call people libtards if they don't show enough empathy for his death. |
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Unfortunately things are probably going to get a lot worse at this point, I imagine there will be more tit for tat occurences in the future here, I sure wouldn't want to be a public speaker in the states right about now. |
This guy was a podcaster that became the example he used for the importance of guns everywhere. You don’t have to be happy about it, but there’s no denying that someone who said deaths are worth it after kids being killed a school shooting isn’t really worthy of sympathy if he can’t even have it for innocent children. They fly the flags half mast for a PODCASTER but won’t for the actual members of government that were murdered a couple months ago in Minnesota. If you don’t understand how that’s a problem, I’m not sure what to tell you. But the right continues with their crocodile tears and claims some sort of moral win as usual. |
Yeah I already knew the Republican party is a piece of shit, it's just disheartening to see the average person following into the same trap of not giving a fuck too. If you see someone on the side of the road bleeding out and he has a MAGA hat on, in this climate the amount of people willing to stop and help them probably drops like a rock. Just on a human level things are getting gross out there all around. |
I disagree completely, in your scenario everyone stops to help them except the most despicable person imaginable. I don't celebrate Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, political violence just begets further political violence at the end of the day... but I also don't mourn him and I think he was a terrible person not worthy of national or even localized mourning beyond that of his family and friends. Is that perspective so hard to understand? |
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re: the attack - I can't find video of what happen after the attack started but from what you've described this isn't uncommon anymore in big cities. We've become desensitised in large cities (this is a side effect of density - we're exposed to be more aggression b/c of how close we are to each other so we pull back from the world). |
I thought this image was AI generated until I watched the live feed, Trump not looking too good... https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0kZOeYX...pg&name=medium |
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