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Hondaracer 06-25-2025 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by supafamous (Post 9182684)
Yeah, the amount of cognitive dissonance required to praise Europe's approach to homelessness and drug use and to then for him to say we need to vote Conservative is impressive.

As I've repeated ad nauseam, as voters we've chosen to not tackle the problem seriously so we get an approach that tries to sweep it under the rug b/c it's not funded to the level needed to deliver what Europe does. And, as others have noted, we're not prepared to go the other way like Singapore - with a practically authoritarian approach to civil society.

This is, of course, part for the course for Honda's politics.

None of you could say with a straight face that if our taxes were increased, these issues would be solved. Canada isn’t like that.

Also, it’s not just these countries with the higher tax burdens and “progressive” govts. that aren’t riddled with homeless crack heads. You can look at numerous countries as ive said before where the city centres don’t have homeless people everywhere.

We’ve literally created a society where we’ve just accepted this state. It’s the broken car that’s broken down over time so you don’t really notice how bad it is until it ultimately breaks for good. You can argue events like the Lapu Lapu killings were events like that, but ultimately it’s going to get way worse, and bigger events will happen.

We could pump 20% more of our income into it and it wouldn’t fix it because everyone “in charge” is useless and the only thing they are good at are cost overruns. There are so many examples of shit like this we see every day in translink, etc. these ENDLESS discussions on where to get money from. People are too stupid to just say, now we have a single 1 hour fare, it’s $5 when that runs out, it’s $5 again, that’s how the pricing works, Funding solved! Wow that was so hard!! But then in Canada we would hear some shit like that’s effecting marginalized people getting to work and making indigenous people targets of transit police.

People don’t realize how rough shape we are in, in comparison to very good comparables with similar sized metro areas, climates, etc. we SHOULD be better than this.

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9182698)
People don’t realize how rough shape we are in

If you are rich and live in a nice neighbourhood, 99.9% of your life you'll never notice anythiing wrong with Canada.

CivicBlues 06-25-2025 01:43 PM

But wait, Fox news told me Swedenistan and is totally overrun by Somalis and Arab refugees creating no-go zones for the police and running amok!!! Oh which is it???!

mikemhg 06-25-2025 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9182589)
https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2025/0...-deaths-april/

April sees highest unregulated toxic drug deaths since September: BC Coroners Service





Elbows up!

Since 2016 more people have died from illicit drugs in Canada than all Canadian casualties in WW2.

You know what “elbows up” should mean? Keeping people fucking ALIVE?? :lol

In actuality:

"We see the highest drug deaths since, last summer!"

mikemhg 06-25-2025 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9182644)
I’ve known these people for 30 years and hung out with them for 4/5 days, they brought it up themselves because they felt like Canada is circling the bowl. Not by any malicious means but genuinely curious about the state of the country.

You wanna pay Swedish, Finish, or Swiss-level taxes?

Badhobz 06-25-2025 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9182701)
If you are rich and live in a nice neighbourhood, 99.9% of your life you'll never notice anythiing wrong with Canada.

Duh, then get rich stupid.

mikemhg 06-25-2025 02:15 PM

https://www.aaroads.com/hi/061/hi-00...-hi-0083-1.jpg

Fuck ya, one of my favorites :lol

Badhobz 06-25-2025 02:53 PM

Yeah but everything in Hawaii sounds the same. Kamahahkeheh liiki ahhhh ahhh ahhh kemehehehahahahahah ahhh !!

Stupid natives.

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9182724)
Duh, then get rich stupid.

I lived rich for like 2 decades, shit was so cash!

The only reason people like HondaRacer complain is because the drop off of what is "middle class" and lower has been like a CLIFF in modern times compared to a few stairs down like it was when we were growing up in the 1980's and 1990's. To people like HondaRacer, it feels wrong.

Having hit rock bottom and then tumbled down an elevator shaft to yet another fake rock bottom myself, I ended up renting the basement at rock bottom and then having to use a soup kitchen a couple of times. More out of curiousity as I could have begged my baby momma and her rich family for money, but I wanted the full meal deal of hitting zero with my middle finger raised...

When you go to AA meetings and experience a soup kitchen multiple times to get to know the regulars and if you dress shitty enough that they let you into their world (hint: I have all of my teeth still so totally broke people immediately think I'm a cop or something) you get to learn that life at the bottom is beyond fucked and people get mentally programmed to be fucked by society around them. None of those people can envision a way out of their circumstances. It makes sense for them to think and vote certain ways.

What I'm trying to say is, places like the DTES are self-healing structures, because if 10 people die tomorrow, a fresh scab of 10 new lost souls is immediately plugged in to soak up the resources, use the drugs, and require the management by the poverty pimps getting countless millions and millions of fiat currency dollars just to manage the conveyor belt of death for misfits. That's what the DTES is, in plain sight, but Canada is a polite place and we don't know how to handle the "remainer of the Canadian equation" without fentanyl-assistance.

As a human being, you're not really supposed to ask questions of how society functions, you're only supposed to vote for someone who promises to fix the threatening things immediately visible to you... FUCK TRUMP ELBOWS UP!!! :lawl:

Badhobz 06-25-2025 03:24 PM

Oh you! i love your stories

:fullofwin:Having full teeth makes you a cop. :fullofwin:

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9182698)
we SHOULD be better than this.


I'm about to have the best summer with my family, if I want to feel better, I just stop looking! :lawl:

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 9182737)
Oh you! i love your stories

:fullofwin:Having full teeth makes you a cop. :fullofwin:

Bro, I think you're a funny guy, your posts are great...

When was the last time you even interacted with someone missing a tooth?

Wealth is the ultimate insulation, and from your posts, you are rich! You probably never even have window cleaners missing a tooth!

The poorer your circle of society, the more missing teeth. When you are at rock bottom, everyone has huge gaps of missing teeth, crazy sideways ugly teeth, brown teeth, gross as fuck teeth... I bet all you see every day Badhobz is bright pearly white smiles!

Harvey Specter 06-25-2025 03:54 PM

Carney :badpokerface:

https://images.thenightly.com.au/pub...g?imwidth=1656

Badhobz 06-25-2025 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason00S2000 (Post 9182745)
Bro, I think you're a funny guy, your posts are great...

When was the last time you even interacted with someone missing a tooth?

Wealth is the ultimate insulation, and from your posts, you are rich! You probably never even have window cleaners missing a tooth!

The poorer your circle of society, the more missing teeth. When you are at rock bottom, everyone has huge gaps of missing teeth, crazy sideways ugly teeth, brown teeth, gross as fuck teeth... I bet all you see every day Badhobz is bright pearly white smiles!

I see toothless longshore all the time... Not sure how thats possible considering their dental plan....lisa needs braces... Dental plan....

unit 06-25-2025 04:47 PM

king of the netherlands is 6'-3", trump can't be over 6' although he claims to be 6'-3". everything about this man is a lie.

Harvey Specter 06-25-2025 05:48 PM

Recep Tayyip Erdogan is 6'1" so no way he's 6'3".

And I just noticed his pants, like wtf.

GS8 06-25-2025 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 9182750)

Carney looking like that one actual retard in every elementary class photo.

But man can you imagine if a bomb landed right there? :badpokerface:

mikemhg 06-25-2025 05:57 PM

Look at Trump's pants, so poor fitting, they're like MC Hammer's.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/..._QL70_ML2_.jpg

westopher 06-25-2025 06:06 PM

Opioid deaths down 17% in 2024 over 2023.
Not enough, but that seems like pretty meaningful progress.

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 06:06 PM

Trump's old. It is likely his bones have shrunk at near an inch. Once you hit like 60 years old as a man, I believe the data is that you've lose 1 inch in height already, and he's almost 80.

CivicBlues 06-25-2025 06:08 PM

Gotta make room for Depends.

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GS8 (Post 9182766)
Carney looking like that one actual retard in every elementary class photo.

But man can you imagine if a bomb landed right there? :badpokerface:

Ommmm...

>breathe in<

Ommmm...

>breathe in<

Broooooooooo...

How does it become more obvious to all RS'ers?

The system has total control!

A bomb would never happen.

Coming from a place where that is a reassurance that the right people have the power, damn, we're living in a golden age.

I'm going to seriously have a sick BBQ for Canada Day this year and be patriotic that I live in a place on Earth where the system does such a good job of keeping the popluation in line. Even if my balls were absolutely CRUSHED and I'm still in mega pain and in recovery from the horrible times of 2020-2024.

The low IQ mindset is to get mad that everything is fake and gay, the high IQ mindset is to actually be in awe that the system is this good!

99% of people can live in peace because the freaks and misfits are confined to places like the DTES in Canadian society.

Carney 2025... hell yeah I sleep well at night.

Namaste.

Ommmm...

>breathe in<

Ommmm...

>breathe in<

Ommmm...

>breathe in<

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 06:21 PM

https://i.ibb.co/Qv17WH0T/white.jpg

Is this dude some Bond villain?

Jason00S2000 06-25-2025 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9182771)
Gotta make room for Depends.

Making fun of someone's disability is not cool. :failed:

rymack 06-25-2025 07:08 PM

Whenever I read this thread and the back and forth here I have often the same thought:
The majority of the people who are now drug addicted/mentally ill , living on the DTES , at risk of ODÂ’ing are beyond help. No matter what we do for these people they will by and large will never live a productive life post addiction ( letÂ’s call it lower middle class for sake of argument).

And what happens when they die? They just seem to be replaced in an endless constant supply. This seems to be a North American wide phenomenon. It seems to be slightly more pronounced in liberal areas vs conservative but that may just be a trick of weather/climate( itÂ’s easier to live on the streets in Vancouver/ Frisco vs Saskatoon / middle America in the winter).

I guess the way my thinking goes is why are these people ending up in addiction crisis and why is there a never ending supply? I would suspect most of the people come from lower socio economic family backgrounds , reserves , trauma filled homes. Or a brilliant combination of the three.

How do we break that cycle ? Knowing that if we can we still have 10-15 years of the same issue coming at us if even if we succeed . Do we have the skills /knowledge to do this ?

In some respects it mirrors a lot of what happened with African Americans in the US ( with less racism maybe) . You have generational trauma that takes many generations to work out of the system. We see parents who shouldnÂ’t not be parents having children. They will by and large produce more people that are at high risk to be drug addicted mentally ill etc.

If you start down this path you start to think maybe as a society we need to step in and have very early intervention if we want to even have a chance at changing it. Which by the way I think is partially how early Canadians got residential schools. We thought as a society we knew better , we needed to intervene to “save them from themselves” ( putting aside the use of residential schools as a genocidal tool which was a large part of it I’m sure).


If we consider the drug/overdose/mental health epidemic(s) as a symptom instead of the sickness I think weÂ’d have a Better chance at it. But it will take more than 4 years ( election cycle) might get worse in the meantime and we donÂ’t really know where to start.

I will agree with Honda though. We are becoming acclimatized to it and it is worse than it was .


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